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May 14, 2018 12:10:28   #
straightUp (a regular here)
 
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands of unarmed protesters in Gaza, the largest concentration camp in the world, stood along the fence to protest the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Men, women and children just standing along the fence in a gesture of solidarity and guess what the Israeli troops do? They fire into the crowd with live rounds. Cold blooded murder.

Meanwhile, the world checks in with their condemnation of Israel starting with the Jews themselves. About a dozen members of an ultra-orthodox anti-Israeli group joined the protest outside the embassy. They held signs that read "Jews worldwide condemn Israeli bloody brutality" and "Authentic Jewry never recognized the State of Israel."

Meanwhile at the UN, 128 countries defied President Donald Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. This is a tribute to the fact that Israel is clearly in the wrong and that Trump has ZERO clout, not to mention his "tough-guy" act is only causing dozens of innocent people to loose their lives.

With Trump and Netanyahu steering the foreign policies of their respective countries, I just pray that Russia and Iran keep their cool because if Israel and Iran go to war, it won't be as easy to save Israel's ass as it has been in the past.
 
May 14, 2018 12:28:40   #
Wolf counselor (a regular here)
 
straightUp wrote:
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands of unarmed protesters in Gaza, the largest concentration camp in the world, stood along the fence to protest the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Men, women and children just standing along the fence in a gesture of solidarity and guess what the Israeli troops do? They fire into the crowd with live rounds. Cold blooded murder.

Meanwhile, the world checks in with their condemnation of Israel starting with the Jews themselves. About a dozen members of an ultra-orthodox anti-Israeli group joined the protest outside the embassy. They held signs that read "Jews worldwide condemn Israeli bloody brutality" and "Authentic Jewry never recognized the State of Israel."

Meanwhile at the UN, 128 countries defied President Donald Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. This is a tribute to the fact that Israel is clearly in the wrong and that Trump has ZERO clout, not to mention his "tough-guy" act is only causing dozens of innocent people to loose their lives.

With Trump and Netanyahu steering the foreign policies of their respective countries, I just pray that Russia and Iran keep their cool because if Israel and Iran go to war, it won't be as easy to save Israel's ass as it has been in the past.
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands... (show quote)


If protesters choose to be disruptive and make themselves targets, who are you to champion their cause ?

If you're so empathetic, get off your butt and go join the protesters.

Those same protesters chant "death to America".

You can't hear them because of this.


May 14, 2018 12:32:11   #
Richard Rowland (a regular here)
 
straightUp wrote:
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands of unarmed protesters in Gaza, the largest concentration camp in the world, stood along the fence to protest the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Men, women and children just standing along the fence in a gesture of solidarity and guess what the Israeli troops do? They fire into the crowd with live rounds. Cold blooded murder.

Meanwhile, the world checks in with their condemnation of Israel starting with the Jews themselves. About a dozen members of an ultra-orthodox anti-Israeli group joined the protest outside the embassy. They held signs that read "Jews worldwide condemn Israeli bloody brutality" and "Authentic Jewry never recognized the State of Israel."

Meanwhile at the UN, 128 countries defied President Donald Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. This is a tribute to the fact that Israel is clearly in the wrong and that Trump has ZERO clout, not to mention his "tough-guy" act is only causing dozens of innocent people to loose their lives.

With Trump and Netanyahu steering the foreign policies of their respective countries, I just pray that Russia and Iran keep their cool because if Israel and Iran go to war, it won't be as easy to save Israel's ass as it has been in the past.
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands... (show quote)


Here's what has to be considered, StraightUp, If any country attempted to bring Isreal to heel for what they are inflicting, Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons. They will blow up the world, or threaten to if things begin to go south and it appears they're about to be conquered. Have no doubt that any group that has murdered and assassinated its way to statehood will not hesitate to pull out all the stop. Life of the goy and others means little to them, as is evident when considering the event of 9-11.
May 14, 2018 12:37:13   #
Richard Rowland (a regular here)
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
If protesters choose to be disruptive and make themselves targets, who are you to champion their cause ?

If you're so empathetic, get off your butt and go join the protesters.

Those same protesters chant "death to America".

You can't hear them because of this.


I find it interesting that some put so much emphasis on the chant, "Death to America" when Israel has been responsible for more American deaths than Iran's empty chant.
May 14, 2018 12:49:06   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
straightUp wrote:
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands of unarmed protesters in Gaza, the largest concentration camp in the world, stood along the fence to protest the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Men, women and children just standing along the fence in a gesture of solidarity and guess what the Israeli troops do? They fire into the crowd with live rounds. Cold blooded murder.

Meanwhile, the world checks in with their condemnation of Israel starting with the Jews themselves. About a dozen members of an ultra-orthodox anti-Israeli group joined the protest outside the embassy. They held signs that read "Jews worldwide condemn Israeli bloody brutality" and "Authentic Jewry never recognized the State of Israel."

Meanwhile at the UN, 128 countries defied President Donald Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. This is a tribute to the fact that Israel is clearly in the wrong and that Trump has ZERO clout, not to mention his "tough-guy" act is only causing dozens of innocent people to loose their lives.

With Trump and Netanyahu steering the foreign policies of their respective countries, I just pray that Russia and Iran keep their cool because if Israel and Iran go to war, it won't be as easy to save Israel's ass as it has been in the past.
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands... (show quote)

Sorry Straight but they were warned not to infiltrate borders during American Embassy opening,they did it anyways....So im sorry some people had to die,but they brought this onto themselves...Plus they werent really unarmed...They were throwing stones at the soldiers...Its not being unarmed ....
May 14, 2018 13:14:00   #
Wolf counselor (a regular here)
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I find it interesting that some put so much emphasis on the chant, "Death to America" when Israel has been responsible for more American deaths than Iran's empty chant.


There is an abundance of conspiracy theories on the subject of American deaths as a result of Israeli involvement.

I will certainly admit however, that if I were asked who was more capable of taking out an American, I would say an Israeli.

But if you think "death to America" is an empty chant, then please take yourself a spot next to kevyn
 
May 14, 2018 13:16:31   #
F.D.R.
 
A. read your history, there are no 'Palestinian' people. These so-called Palestinian's came to Israel to work after it's founding and fled when Israel was invaded. Since their native countries don't want them back they've created this false identity. As they vow to kill every Jew the Israeli's have every right to defend themselves, screw the restraint ! Set up 50 caliber machine guns and mow down the would be invaders. Take your crocodile tears and use them to wipe yourself.
May 14, 2018 13:25:34   #
straightUp (a regular here)
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Here's what has to be considered, StraightUp, If any country attempted to bring Isreal to heel for what they are inflicting, Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons. They will blow up the world, or threaten to if things begin to go south and it appears they're about to be conquered. Have no doubt that any group that has murdered and assassinated its way to statehood will not hesitate to pull out all the stop. Life of the goy and others means little to them, as is evident when considering the event of 9-11.
Here's what has to be considered, StraightUp, If a... (show quote)

I don't think they can go nuclear without signing their own death warrant. Israel is a tiny country that can be knocked out with just a few missiles. And we don't actually know how many nuclear weapons Israel has anyway, mostly because they are the ONLY nuclear power that refuses to sign the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, so they don't report like everyone else does. The estimate is between 60 and 400, but I'm inclined to think they want the world to think they have more than they actually do and that's why they don't report. Kind of like Trump and his money.

Also, the people most hostile to Israel are either next door or inside Israel and/or it's illegally occupied territories. So what exactly is Israel going to attack with nuclear weapons? Also, there's a LOT of resistance to Netanyahu and his Nazi-spawn from the Israeli citizens themselves so there's considerable doubt that the Israeli people will even let that happen especially when everyone knows that there is no way Israel could survive the response.

So, while it's true that the modern State of Israel was founded on terrorism (the only country in the world that can make that claim) I think the 70 years since has given Israeli leaders more responsibility than terrorist groups like Irgun had in 1947. I think Israel will be forced to limit themselves to conventional tactics that require U.S. funding.
May 14, 2018 13:39:05   #
Richard Rowland (a regular here)
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't think they can go nuclear without signing their own death warrant. Israel is a tiny country that can be knocked out with just a few missiles. And we don't actually know how many nuclear weapons Israel has anyway, mostly because they are the ONLY nuclear power that refuses to sign the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, so they don't report like everyone else does. The estimate is between 60 and 400, but I'm inclined to think they want the world to think they have more than they actually do and that's why they don't report. Kind of like Trump and his money.

Also, the people most hostile to Israel are either next door or inside Israel and/or it's illegally occupied territories. So what exactly is Israel going to attack with nuclear weapons? Also, there's a LOT of resistance to Netanyahu and his Nazi-spawn from the Israeli citizens themselves so there's considerable doubt that the Israeli people will even let that happen especially when everyone knows that there is no way Israel could survive the response.

So, while it's true that the modern State of Israel was founded on terrorism (the only country in the world that can make that claim) I think the 70 years since has given Israeli leaders more responsibility than terrorist groups like Irgun had in 1947. I think Israel will be forced to limit themselves to conventional tactics that require U.S. funding.
I don't think they can go nuclear without signing ... (show quote)


"I don't think they can go nuclear without destroying themselves" Don't discount that possibility. Keep in mind the story of Masada. Also, where nuclear is considered, I wonder if just setting them off where they are would be enough to wreck havoc on the planet.

A couple of Zionist radical despots could pull it off.
May 14, 2018 13:55:47   #
straightUp (a regular here)
 
proud republican wrote:
No i dont think its ok to kill people at all, but again they were WARNED again and again not to breach the borders!!!!.......

Standing along the fence is NOT breaching the border!!!

proud republican wrote:

Yeah,BTW stones CAN kill......Thats how they kill women in syria or Iran if they dont do what their husbands tell them to do...

When the women in deeply religious cultures get stoned they don't have the option of stepping away. The only reason why a soldier would get hit by a rock is if he's too stupid to step out of arms-throw range... They have fully automatic rifles they don't need to be that close.

proud republican wrote:

And as far as for me going back to fucking Russia, thats none of your fucking business Straight!!

Then learn American values!!! We believe in the right to protest and the freedom of expression... We also believe that these rights are inalienable, which means they apply as much to Palestinians as anyone else. So why can't you get on board with that?
May 14, 2018 14:00:34   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
straightUp wrote:
Then learn American values!!! We believe in the right to protest and the freedom of expression... Why can't you get on board with that?


They were not just standing at the border they were trying to climb over fence.....They are not these innocent people that you think they are...Israel has a right to protect its borders from people who are trying to kill them.......Palestinian Authority pays terrorists and their families to kill Israelis' citizens...Why cant you get this through your head???...ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST!!!!
 
May 14, 2018 14:04:57   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't think they can go nuclear without signing their own death warrant. Israel is a tiny country that can be knocked out with just a few missiles. And we don't actually know how many nuclear weapons Israel has anyway, mostly because they are the ONLY nuclear power that refuses to sign the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, so they don't report like everyone else does. The estimate is between 60 and 400, but I'm inclined to think they want the world to think they have more than they actually do and that's why they don't report. Kind of like Trump and his money.

Also, the people most hostile to Israel are either next door or inside Israel and/or it's illegally occupied territories. So what exactly is Israel going to attack with nuclear weapons? Also, there's a LOT of resistance to Netanyahu and his Nazi-spawn from the Israeli citizens themselves so there's considerable doubt that the Israeli people will even let that happen especially when everyone knows that there is no way Israel could survive the response.

So, while it's true that the modern State of Israel was founded on terrorism (the only country in the world that can make that claim) I think the 70 years since has given Israeli leaders more responsibility than terrorist groups like Irgun had in 1947. I think Israel will be forced to limit themselves to conventional tactics that require U.S. funding.
I don't think they can go nuclear without signing ... (show quote)
Four nations did not sign the NNPT.

People most hostile to Israel are all over the world, including some right here on OPP.

32 nations have sent representatives to join in the celebration of the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem.

The state of Israel was not founded on terrorism. Israel was free to become a sovereign nation when the British mandate over the region officially terminated at midnight, May 14, 1948. President Truman recognized the state of Israel on the same day. And, Israel has been forced to defend its right to exist ever since.

Israel is not illegally occupying the land of its heritage. In 1003 BC, King David proclaimed Jerusalem the capitol of the kingdom of Israel and Judah.

For nearly 200 years, archeological expeditions in Israel and other Biblical sites have uncovered thousands of artifacts and sites confirming a Hebrew presence dating back many centuries, no such artifacts have ever been found indicating the existence of a "Palestinian" culture or society.

Sieg Heil, Herr Geradeaus.
May 14, 2018 14:17:03   #
Richard Rowland (a regular here)
 
proud republican wrote:
No i dont think its ok to kill people at all, but again they were WARNED again and again not to breach the borders!!!!.......Yeah,BTW stones CAN kill......Thats how they kill women in syria or Iran if they dont do what their husbands tell them to do...They stone them to death....And as far as for me going back to fucking Russia, thats none of your fucking business Straight!!


WOW! StraightUp you hit a nerve with Ole PR, with the go back to Russia comment. So he's a Ruski, is he? That could explain a lot. He had indicated to me that he'd been run out of a country by bigots. He didn't mention which one. PR, a Jewish Russian. Ha!
May 14, 2018 14:38:20   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
WOW! StraightUp you hit a nerve with Ole PR, with the go back to Russia comment. So he's a Ruski, is he? That could explain a lot. He had indicated to me that he'd been run out of a country by bigots. He didn't mention which one. PR, a Jewish Russian. Ha!

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Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews

For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view of radical fringe groups. But it is not. It is time for the region's secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.

By Ayaan Hirsi Ali January 24, 2013

Cambridge, Mass. — Egypt’s newly elected president, Mohamed Morsi, was caught on tape about three years ago urging his followers to “nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists. Not long after, the then-leader of the Muslim Brotherhood described Zionists as “bloodsuckers who attack the Palestinians,” “warmongers,” and “descendants of apes and pigs.”

These remarks are disgusting, but they are neither shocking nor new. As a child growing up in a Muslim family, I constantly heard my mother, other relatives, and neighbors wish for the death of Jews, who were considered our darkest enemy. Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews.

For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view expressed by radical fringe groups. But it is not.

All over the Middle East, hatred for Jews and Zionists can be found in textbooks for children as young as 3, complete with illustrations of Jews with monster-like qualities. Mainstream educational television programs are consistently anti-Semitic. In songs, books, newspaper articles, and blogs, Jews are variously compared to pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches, and also to vampires and a host of other imaginary creatures.
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Consider this infamous dialogue between a 3-year-old and a television presenter, eight years before Mr. Morsi’s remarks.

Presenter: “Do you like Jews?”

3-year-old: “No.”

“Why don’t you like them?”

“Jews are apes and pigs.”

“Who said this?”

“Our God.”

“Where did he say this?”

“In the Koran.”

The presenter responds approvingly: “No [parents] could wish for Allah to give them a more believing girl than she ... May Allah bless her, her father, and mother.”

This conversation was not caught on hidden camera or taped by propagandists. It was featured on a prominent program called “Muslim Woman Magazine” and broadcast by Iqraa, the popular Saudi-owned satellite channel.

It is a major step forward for a sitting US administration and leading American newspapers to unequivocally condemn Morsi’s words. But condemnation is just the first move.

Here is an opportunity to acknowledge the breadth and depth of the attitude toward Jews in the Middle East, and how that affects the much desired but elusive peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.

So many explanations have been offered for the failure of successive US administrations to achieve that peace, but the answer is in Morsi’s words. Why would one make peace with bloodsuckers and descendants of apes and monkeys?

Millions of Muslims have been conditioned to regard Jews not only as the enemies of Palestine but as the enemies of all Muslims, of God, and of all humanity. Arab leaders far more prominent and influential than Morsi have been tireless in “educating” or “nursing” generations to believe that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.” (These are the words of the Saudi sheik Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, imam at the Masjid al-Haram mosque in Mecca.)

In 2011, a Pew survey found that in Turkey, just 4 percent of those surveyed held a “very favorable” or “somewhat favorable” view of Jews; in Indonesia, 10 percent; in Pakistan, 2 percent. In addition, 95 percent of Jordanians, 94 percent of Egyptians, and 95 percent of Lebanese hold a “very unfavorable” view of Jews.

In recent decades Israeli and American administrations negotiated with unelected Arab despots, who played a double game. They honored the formal peace treaties by not conducting military attacks against Israel. But they condoned the Islamists’ dissemination of hatred against Israel, Zionism, and Jews.

As the Islamists spread their influence through civil institutions, young people were nursed on hatred.

In the wake of the Arab Spring, as the people take a chance on democracy, they and their new leadership want to see their ideals turned into policy.

For too many of those who fought for their own liberation, one of those ideals is the end of peace with Israel. The United States must make clear to Morsi that this is not an option.

This is also a crucial opportunity for the region’s secular movements, which must speak out against the clergy’s incitement of young minds to hatred. It is time for these secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a fellow at the Belfer Center’s Future of Diplomacy Project at the Harvard Kennedy School, and author of the books “Infidel” and “Nomad: From Islam to America: A Personal Journey Through the Clash of Civilizations.”
May 14, 2018 14:45:38   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
WOW! StraightUp you hit a nerve with Ole PR, with the go back to Russia comment. So he's a Ruski, is he? That could explain a lot. He had indicated to me that he'd been run out of a country by bigots. He didn't mention which one. PR, a Jewish Russian. Ha!


Little Richie, you are the biggest bigot of them all!!!So what is your fucking problem with me being Jewish RUSSIAN??? And FYI bigot, it doesnt really matter if im Russkie, or American..Bigot is bigot no matter where they come from!!!BTW Richie...ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST!!!.....whether you like it or not!!!
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