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Apr 15, 2018 12:08:37   #
Morgan
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Bullmueller.
Look who are leading the democratic party : Tom Perez, an Hispanic C****e, and Keith Ellison, a black muslim c****e.
This is not balance. It's a cultural revolution to topple America and install a borderless one government world with Islam as the preferred religion.
One housing unit, one uniform, one feed trough, one train, one elite leader.
Sharia law enforcement to keep everyone's head attached to their shoulders.
Not my kind of world.


Take a look at who is supporting a one-party government, they're in Congress now...the standing majority. You sound like a true bigot. Tom Perez, a graduate of Harvard Law School, Brown University, John F. Kennedy School of Government. His credentials are fairly impressive.

What about Romney, Cruz, and Rubio on your side?

What does Trump have in comparison? We all know is education is faux.(paid for) considering a fifth grader is intellectually far superior.

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Apr 15, 2018 12:33:49   #
woodguru
 
The conservative thinks of welfare in terms of all the deadbeats on welfare and does everything possible to eliminate it, never understanding how large a segment of those on welfare are republicans that are hit by economic and jobs loss that deserve the hand getting back to a life. And they will never understand that cuts to welfare programs hurt those that deserve it far more than the professional deadbeats who will be getting it when the temporarily needy don't. Cuts to funding hurt the programs that help, not the core deadbeats.

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Apr 15, 2018 12:42:47   #
woodguru
 
snowbear37 wrote:
They'll tax it even if it isn't moving.
If it lives, they'll tax it.
If it dies, they want to tax it one more time.


Spoken like the person who is not the beneficiary of tax cuts for the wealthy, a concept that truly hurts thinking people

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Apr 15, 2018 13:06:53   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
woodguru wrote:
Spoken like the person who is not the beneficiary of tax cuts for the wealthy, a concept that truly hurts thinking people


woodie: A progressive tax system is evil! It forces the entire Country on the Plantations provided by Governments out of control!

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Apr 15, 2018 13:28:13   #
Morgan
 
pafret wrote:
That is the position of someone totally lacking in compassion. Unless you are personally volunteering to find one of the truly deserving of help and assist them out of your pocket then your position is heartless and indefensible. That does not mean that anyone who decides he can make do with less should be permitted to sit on his duff while others work to keep him alive. The problem is not in extending a helping hand but in ensuring this does not become a vocation.

It also doesn't mean that the public has an obligation to maintain welfare recipients in the same manner as those who work and buy wh**ever they can afford. If it embarrasses the welfare recipient that their children don't have party dresses, there is an easy cure, get a job. If their household appliances are not the latest and greatest, too bad. Those who have those things got them the old fashioned way, they earned them.

If while on welfare they continue to breed like rabbits, without benefit of a husband or identifiable father then some limit should be imposed, such as remove the children from this environment since the parent is irresponsible. That parent should be advised that the next child presented for welfare will garner a jail sentence for her.
That is the position of someone totally lacking in... (show quote)


I agree that is lacking a great deal of compassion, thank you for that and I also agree with most of your post but I'd like to mention what many people don't seem to assume, is that some of these recipients, yes, many are women with children, are working two jobs, they are home very little and are raising catch lee kids, (which also isn't a great circumstance), and are not at home sitting on their duff. But threatening jail time is quite the extreme, is a woman now also criminal is she keeps the child? She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. It appears to still be a man's world.

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Apr 15, 2018 13:30:27   #
Morgan
 
woodguru wrote:
The conservative thinks of welfare in terms of all the deadbeats on welfare and does everything possible to eliminate it, never understanding how large a segment of those on welfare are republicans that are hit by economic and jobs loss that deserve the hand getting back to a life. And they will never understand that cuts to welfare programs hurt those that deserve it far more than the professional deadbeats who will be getting it when the temporarily needy don't. Cuts to funding hurt the programs that help, not the core deadbeats.
The conservative thinks of welfare in terms of all... (show quote)


Interesting take on right and left

for a closer look...http://infobeautiful4.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/05/1276_left_right_usa.png



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Apr 15, 2018 14:23:21   #
woodguru
 
I just thought of the core most fundamental difference...

Conservatives h**e and liberals have tolerance for everyone.

Show me someone who h**es any group in a stereotypical manner, says (blank) are all (fill in the negative), b****s, hispanics, gays, people on welfare, wh**ever.

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Apr 15, 2018 14:44:48   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
woodguru wrote:
I just thought of the core most fundamental difference...

Conservatives h**e and liberals have tolerance for everyone.

Show me someone who h**es any group in a stereotypical manner, says (blank) are all (fill in the negative), b****s, hispanics, gays, people on welfare, wh**ever.


woodie: Strong word for a stereotypical culture c*******t (H**e!) Conservatives believe in Rule of Law not h**e!.....If you don't like the law....change it are get out of the Country! Don't ignore it like the last administration did! Liberals have managed to weaponize the entire Executive Branch...It will take time but the political ideologies will be removed; especially after the Judicial Branch is brought under Constructive law vs the activism that has literally destroyed our Tort system. Term limits will now have to be instituted in all judicial appointments including the Supreme Court due to pervasion of liberalism ( smelly cabbage) brought own by the liberals! Liberalism and Democrats appeal to the lowest common denominator and the basest and most vile of human emotions. Their entire philosophy is one of victimhood, elitism, and punishment of achievement. Even though l*****t ideology has failed, and failed miserably. Its been tried over and over again, it's proponents never give up in the ideology, they are always looking for the "one", just the right tyrant to force everyone into collectivism; for their own good of course.

Never mind that millions have been murdered, and millions more tortured and made miserable to achieve these so called liberal utopian goals. I guess when you accept evil as your standard there is nothing that is too low or too vile to say or to do. The real pain is the victimhood of those who will not educate themselves to the true agenda at hand that keeps them on the plantation or in serfdom. MAGA will change this liberal plague by Constitutional Law and abolish case law!

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Apr 15, 2018 15:04:51   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Morgan wrote:
I agree that is lacking a great deal of compassion, thank you for that and I also agree with most of your post but I'd like to mention what many people don't seem to assume, is that some of these recipients, yes, many are women with children, are working two jobs, they are home very little and are raising catch lee kids, (which also isn't a great circumstance), and are not at home sitting on their duff. But threatening jail time is quite the extreme, is a woman now also criminal is she keeps the child? She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. It appears to still be a man's world.
I agree that is lacking a great deal of compassion... (show quote)


That woman working two jobs needs assistance, such that she can be at home with her children at the end of the workday. There are many valid reasons to be a single mother but if the reason is that they simply refuse to practice birth control, or refrain from sexual contacts, and never get a husband then their life circumstance is their choice. Don't expect me to labor to feed those offspring. It is these women that I say need their children removed from their poor care and only these people should be threatened with jail because this behavior is anti-social as well as theft.

There is no catch 22 here. If she expects the rest of us to ante up to support her she needs to do her part in becoming self-supporting. Generating countless babies is not an industry. Any arguments about her body being hers and she has the right to do wh**ever are perfectly valid, as long as she does not burden me with paying for her wh**ever.

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Apr 15, 2018 15:04:55   #
woodguru
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
woodie: Strong word for a stereotypical culture c*******t (H**e!) Conservatives believe in Rule of Law not h**e!.....If you don't like the law....change it are get out of the Country! Don't ignore it like the last administration did! Liberals have managed to weaponize the entire Executive Branch...It will take time but the political ideologies will be removed; especially after the Judicial Branch is brought under Constructive law vs the activism that has literally destroyed our Tort system. Term limits will now have to be instituted in all judicial appointments including the Supreme Court due to pervasion of liberalism ( smelly cabbage) brought own by the liberals! Liberalism and Democrats appeal to the lowest common denominator and the basest and most vile of human emotions. Their entire philosophy is one of victimhood, elitism, and punishment of achievement. Even though l*****t ideology has failed, and failed miserably. Its been tried over and over again, it's proponents never give up in the ideology, they are always looking for the "one", just the right tyrant to force everyone into collectivism; for their own good of course.

Never mind that millions have been murdered, and millions more tortured and made miserable to achieve these so called liberal utopian goals. I guess when you accept evil as your standard there is nothing that is too low or too vile to say or to do. The real pain is the victimhood of those who will not educate themselves to the true agenda at hand that keeps them on the plantation or in serfdom. MAGA will change this liberal plague by Constitutional Law and abolish case law!
woodie: Strong word for a stereotypical culture c*... (show quote)


So prove your belief in rule of law and stand up against a president who has obviously been involved with money laundering and other things.

Also show a regard for the law and constitution when red controlled states openly violate e******n laws and write their own.

How did you feel about the GOP refusing to allow Obama a supreme court justice pick when he had a year left?

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Apr 15, 2018 15:09:12   #
woodguru
 
pafret wrote:
That woman working two jobs needs assistance, such that she can be at home with her children at the end of the workday. There are many valid reasons to be a single mother but if the reason is that they simply refuse to practice birth control, or refrain from sexual contacts, and never get a husband then their life circumstance is their choice. Don't expect me to labor to feed those offspring. It is these women that I say need their children removed from their poor care and only these people should be threatened with jail because this behavior is anti-social as well as theft.

There is no catch 22 here. If she expects the rest of us to ante up to support her she needs to do her part in becoming self-supporting. Generating countless babies is not an industry. Any arguments about her body being hers and she has the right to do wh**ever are perfectly valid, as long as she does not burden me with paying for her wh**ever.
That woman working two jobs needs assistance, such... (show quote)


You use worst case scenarios and try to apply them to all. How about the woman who had a violent abusive husband who was a physical threat to her and her kids. I dated the director of a women's shelter, and the numbers of domestic violence cases are staggering. That is on tiny fraction of a huge number of circumstances that do not fit your judgmental attitudes and misinformed beliefs.

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Apr 15, 2018 15:10:54   #
woodguru
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
woodie: Strong word for a stereotypical culture c*******t (H**e!) Conservatives believe in Rule of Law not h**e!.....If you don't like the law....change it are get out of the Country! Don't ignore it like the last administration did! Liberals have managed to weaponize the entire Executive Branch...It will take time but the political ideologies will be removed; especially after the Judicial Branch is brought under Constructive law vs the activism that has literally destroyed our Tort system. Term limits will now have to be instituted in all judicial appointments including the Supreme Court due to pervasion of liberalism ( smelly cabbage) brought own by the liberals! Liberalism and Democrats appeal to the lowest common denominator and the basest and most vile of human emotions. Their entire philosophy is one of victimhood, elitism, and punishment of achievement. Even though l*****t ideology has failed, and failed miserably. Its been tried over and over again, it's proponents never give up in the ideology, they are always looking for the "one", just the right tyrant to force everyone into collectivism; for their own good of course.

Never mind that millions have been murdered, and millions more tortured and made miserable to achieve these so called liberal utopian goals. I guess when you accept evil as your standard there is nothing that is too low or too vile to say or to do. The real pain is the victimhood of those who will not educate themselves to the true agenda at hand that keeps them on the plantation or in serfdom. MAGA will change this liberal plague by Constitutional Law and abolish case law!
woodie: Strong word for a stereotypical culture c*... (show quote)


You want a judicial that supports Trump and refuses to go after him. Show support for the rule of law and apply it to a president that cares nothing about the rule of law.

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Apr 15, 2018 15:34:50   #
Mikeyavelli
 
[quote=Morgan]Take a look at who is supporting a one-party government, they're in Congress now...the standing majority. You sound like a true bigot. Tom Perez, a graduate of Harvard Law School, Brown University, John F. Kennedy School of Government. His credentials are fairly impressive.

What about Romney, Cruz, and Rubio on your side?


Like obama, Perez was a quota filled token student. C****es go to Harvard, and then more come out of Harvard. His credentials are g*******t lefty.
If I fit in to the lefty category of bigot, raysiss, rich old straight white male, good. I'm communicating.
Trump has the very thing that got him elected, an unabashed love for America.
America is not a refuge for the world's downtrodden. It's not a food basket for world hunger. It's a republic with a constitution that is very clear and concise.
I don't want to change it.

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Apr 15, 2018 16:27:55   #
Morgan
 
pafret wrote:
That woman working two jobs needs assistance, such that she can be at home with her children at the end of the workday. There are many valid reasons to be a single mother but if the reason is that they simply refuse to practice birth control, or refrain from sexual contacts, and never get a husband then their life circumstance is their choice. Don't expect me to labor to feed those offspring. It is these women that I say need their children removed from their poor care and only these people should be threatened with jail because this behavior is anti-social as well as theft.

There is no catch 22 here. If she expects the rest of us to ante up to support her she needs to do her part in becoming self-supporting. Generating countless babies is not an industry. Any arguments about her body being hers and she has the right to do wh**ever are perfectly valid, as long as she does not burden me with paying for her wh**ever.
That woman working two jobs needs assistance, such... (show quote)



I happen to agree with you with respect to common sense judgment and the pratice of birth control, frankly, I don't know what they're thinking about. With that said where does imprisoning someone really benefit them or society? Now the woman who was working ...isn't... and you've put children on the road to the horrors of the system, where many girls are raped and turn into hor's/prostitutes and junkies.

If you are willing to imprison them for becoming pregnant, what say you of the seed contributor? It does take two. Maybe after men have contributed to unsupported children, should have a vasectomy and go to jail also?

As far as generating babies for an industry, one would have to be making a profit and getting ahead in some way. Anyone who thinks taking care of a batch of children while working... well no offense but someone who thinks this is some kind of lazy day vacation needs to have their head examined for a reality check.

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Apr 15, 2018 16:35:04   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
woodguru wrote:
I just thought of the core most fundamental difference...

Show me someone who h**es any group in a stereotypical manner, says (blank) are all (fill in the negative), b****s, hispanics, gays, people on welfare, wh**ever.


That would be Hillary, who h**es everybody who didn't v**e for her and calls them 'irredeemable deplorables'.

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