BoJester

Some interesting information



http://pages.stripes.com/edit/vietnam50/pow/index.html

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

War is hell.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

This is a very interesting post, Bo. I hope you don't mind that I recount the grissliness of what these American Soldiers endured.

My second Husband was a black burae, special forces, in Viet Nam. He did two tours out in the jungles. The only soldier that came home to America from his whole platoon.

There was a trail that the Viet Cong used for t***sporting their supplies, that our soldiers were to ambush. The Viet Cong got info that this ambush was to occur, so late at night, instead of sending their supplies, they tied woman and children together with ropes and sent them down the trail. The America soldiers, not being able to see in the dark heard the coming noise and fired on them, k*****g them all.

My husband was pow'd twice, both times out in jungle prison camps. The first time he said he was kept in a bamboo cage big enough for him to be on all fours. He said they were starved. That every morning the Viet Cong would take their personal buckets of excrement and douse the prisoners with them. He said that by evening time, from his ankles and wrist to the rest of his body- he looked as though he had a clothes on which was actually mosquito's eating him alive. He recalled eating a lizard that crawled in his cage. The camp was finally ran over by American Soldiers and he was treated for sickness, then put back out in the field.

His second pow was more lengthy. The Viet Cong in knowing he had some rank, put him through grizzly experiences with his troops. He was forced to listen as a troop drowned in a cage in water full of rats. He was asked repeatedly to give up info regard supply drops, and other military info- where he said he never cracked other than his name rank and serial number. He was forced to listen an watch another troop tied spread eagle (standing) between to trees, with wrists tied to ankles and be disemboweled for a slow death. The Viet Cong saved his good friend for last where he was pegged spread eagle on the ground with my husband staked next to him. In being quiet other than name rand and serial number, the Viet Cong began hacking his friends leg off with a machete, who begged and screamed for his life. The blood splattered all over my husband, and he said when they started on the other leg, he passed out. This camp as well, was overran by troops, where my husband says he found a machete as well as the Viet Cong officer who ran the camp and chopped him into tiny bits. The overrunning troops pulled him off of that viet cong officer. Eventually my husband made it home.

Viet "Nam" remains a scar on the face of "Man" within our Government.

Just a request, but when you pass by a t***sient who was a soldier in Viet Nam, salute him. Be glad that he has even found the simpilest form of Peace to exist within.

BoJester

I would suggest that when some chickenhawk or keyboard warrior beats the drum for another un-necessary war, that you recount this narrative of your husband to bring reality into focus.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I have names of some of our soldiers that went through this hell, and some of those that did not come out alive. This is a very honest recount, and can be used at anytime by anyone.
I do know what really fried my husband was once in a Military office, he and his friend, another soldier became very curious and began looking at some Confidential paperwork. They were alone in that office.
They found a paper that was numbers of the length of life expectancy for various troop positions. Such as, the expected length of life for a door gunner, grunt, and so forth according to their job, and how many more soldiers were needed in Viet Nam to keep these posts filled. So, continue the draft.

What bothers me, is that Viet Nams soldiers from America "literally gave their lives" to that cause. There was little risk to it regarding losing your life as such a gross amount died.
There were others who felt that Viet Nam was not their problem, and ran to Canada, leaving the rest of America's Bravest of the Brave to fight for their cowardness.
One was Bill Clinton who went on being bolstered as President of the United States. In view of the louse he made himself back then, he went on to Create total Mayhem in the White House as well with his self-absorbidness.
Then we have Kerry, who demeaned his time in Viet Nam, turned his back on his soldier friends and any medals from the Military he threw in the dirt. Now, Obama sends him all over the World to make Peace???
I'm sure ours that died in Viet Nam have been rolling in their graves for a long time.

Of course Crosses and Monuments that stand before our Military dead are trying to be torn down- Who in governments and our Courts really care anymore. They certainly aren't Patriots. The True Patriot's aren't that loud in Voice anymore either.

mpix Loc: NorCal

The definition of a chicken hawk would be a newly elected liberal progressive president trying to prove that he is a righteous defender for injustice.

rjoeholl

First of all, the Army Special Forces were GREEN berets. Secondly, the montenyards (sp) were friendly to the special forces who trained them and lived with them. And thirdly no man would be put back in action after being a P.O.W. unless he was in tiptop condition, which your husband couldn't have been after being starved. So either you, maam, are a liar or your "husband" is.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

My husband was in special forces, a black burete. He received training in the art of Taiquando. He was involved in the Phoenix Project and the Arc-Angel Project.
He was in a field hospital three times. Once after his first pow, second after his second pow, and third after laying his gun down on a bomb- to hoist a Vietnamese woman over his shoulder as their village was being bombed and burned. When grabbing his gun, he had layed it on a bomb, and it exploded severing part of a finger and slicing through his hand. Shrapnel was scattered over his torso. Those scars remained, inside as well as outside.
After his first tour, he was in Saigon reading to get on the plane for home. Officials met him there and sent him back for a second tour. '68-'70
Once he was through his second tour and made it home, he arrived home a day before he left due to time zones. He and a few other soldiers were told to stay on the plane after unloading, and it was taxied around to a different area where they were told to dress in civilian clothing to avoid the demonstrators, their name calling (baby k**lers) and having things thrown at them.
As for your 'blantant' statement that I or my husband was a "Liar", He has passed long ago due to cancer from agent orange exposure. His father was Staff Sgt. James Munday Greenwell, my husband was James Michael Greenwell.
I pray to the Lord God of all, that the horror my husband's Viet Nam experience visit you in your dreams.

You must be a Proud Democrat Supporter from the Clinton era. I'll bet your job was to 'cover things up'
I wander if the parents of Gary Hightower know exactly how their son died in that second POW camp my husband was in.
Do you believe that the monteyards, the synthasizers, followed the rules 'at all times'? Some were t*****rs to our American forces.
Enough of you, I knew your type was out there- sorry now to know it's true.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

Thank you Bo for this post, and the opportunity to bring these things forward. With Respect~

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Thanks, Bo...

Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs

And now we're buddy-buddy w/ them. C'est la vie....

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

There used to be a lot of surface talk and complaints of how when our Soldiers went into active duty overseas, that wh**ever race they were fight against were brought into the U.S. before the Soldiers even arrived home.
For my husband it was different, for him it was a reason for his cause. Something that 'he made possible.'

Now I'm going to light a match, because to me- this excludes Islam. We have our heterosexuals, and homosexuals, both fighting these days for center stage on what's right. We have our atheists who h**e our God and the Symbols we love so to Express him. We have our i*****l i*********n problems. We have a President who has renewed racial unrest. But to bring "Muhammad" on top of it all: NO THANKS!