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Apr 1, 2014 10:41:14   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Doesn't seem like anyone agrees with you,,,,, I thought you said they did???
Soooooo, everyone else,,, is wrong huh???


Keep bouncing around in your bubble. I couldn't care less what YOU think!

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Apr 1, 2014 13:56:57   #
Ve'hoe
 
If you stayed in your bubble we would be satisfied that you are merely unable to think, however in the continued vein of what sycophantic worship drives you, we cant tell what difference your correction makes, except a feeble attempt to deflect blame from your king....

From the SSCI Report it details the efforts of the resident to hide and lie about their actions or lack thereof on behalf of fellow servicemen, who you apparently dont care about...


"While the Committee has completed its report, important questions remain unanswered as a direct result of the Obama Administration's failure to provide the Committee with access to necessary documents and witnesses. We believe the
Administration's lack of cooperation is directly contrary to its statutory obligation to keep the congressional intelligence committees fully and currently informed and has effectively obstructed the Committee's efforts to get to the ground t***h with respect to these remaining questions. Too often, providing timely and complete information to Congress is viewed by the Administration as optional or an accommodation, rather than compliance with a statutory requirement. It is our view that the Comtnittee should have held a v**e to exercise its subpoena power to end this obstruction, once and for all, in the early stages of the review.
As we prepared these Additional Views, the Executive branch, still has not provided all relevant documents to the Committee. Other documents have been provided to the Committee on a "read only" basis, meaning that the Committee Was only permitted to view them for a limited period of time, while being supervised by the coordinating agency, and had to rely upon our notes when preparing the report, Significantly, key Executive branch witnesses who were interviewed stated...

While many individuals with information relevant to our review wete more than forthcoming with the Committee, we are particularly disappointed that Charlene Lamb, who was the Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs, has refused to explain to the Committee why certain decisions were made concerning enhanced security at the Temporary Mission Facility and who ultimately was responsible for those decisions. The Committee extended
invitations to Ms. Lamb on three occasions prior to and after her reinstatementeach time, she refused to meet with the Committee.154 Unfortunately, even after Ms. Lamb was returned to full duty, the State Department did not make het
available to the Committee, something we believe should have been a priority for both Ms. Lamb and the State Department. Based on what we have learned during
the Committee's review, we believe Ms. Lamb's testimony is critical to the investigation of leadership failures.

We know from the testimony ofEric Nordstrom, who served as the Regional Security Officer in Libya until shortly before the attacks, that Ms. Lamb and other senior State Department officials were unreceptive to repeated requests from the Libyan mission regarding security personnel in both Tripoli and B******i. According to Mr. Nordstrom, the previous U.S. Ambassador to Libya, GeneCretz, and his Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM), Joan Polaschik, traveled to Washington in mid-February 2012 to specifically ask for additional security personnel. 155 in addition to meeting with Ms. Lamb, they met separately with Mr. Kennedy and
other senior officials. Yet, when the Libyan mission t***smitted its official request for additional security personnel on March 28, 2012, the push back from Ms.
Lamb's office was swift and significant. While the request, which included five temporary duty Diplomatic Security agents in B******i, was clearly reasonable, one of Ms. Lamb's subordinates asked Mr. Nordstrom why the official cable . sought "the sun, the moon, and the stars." When Mr. Nordstrom stated that he did not understand why this was an issue, the response from Ms. Lamb's office Was
telling: "Well, you know, this is a political game.


There you go,,,, a political game,,, and you defend that over the lives of fellow SEALS..... your mom must be proud of you!!



RetNavyCWO wrote:
Keep bouncing around in your bubble. I couldn't care less what YOU think!

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Apr 1, 2014 16:39:47   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
If you stayed in your bubble we would be satisfied that you are merely unable to think, however in the continued vein of what sycophantic worship drives you, we cant tell what difference your correction makes, except a feeble attempt to deflect blame from your king....

From the SSCI Report it details the efforts of the resident to hide and lie about their actions or lack thereof on behalf of fellow servicemen, who you apparently dont care about...


"While the Committee has completed its report, important questions remain unanswered as a direct result of the Obama Administration's failure to provide the Committee with access to necessary documents and witnesses. We believe the
Administration's lack of cooperation is directly contrary to its statutory obligation to keep the congressional intelligence committees fully and currently informed and has effectively obstructed the Committee's efforts to get to the ground t***h with respect to these remaining questions. Too often, providing timely and complete information to Congress is viewed by the Administration as optional or an accommodation, rather than compliance with a statutory requirement. It is our view that the Comtnittee should have held a v**e to exercise its subpoena power to end this obstruction, once and for all, in the early stages of the review.
As we prepared these Additional Views, the Executive branch, still has not provided all relevant documents to the Committee. Other documents have been provided to the Committee on a "read only" basis, meaning that the Committee Was only permitted to view them for a limited period of time, while being supervised by the coordinating agency, and had to rely upon our notes when preparing the report, Significantly, key Executive branch witnesses who were interviewed stated...

While many individuals with information relevant to our review wete more than forthcoming with the Committee, we are particularly disappointed that Charlene Lamb, who was the Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs, has refused to explain to the Committee why certain decisions were made concerning enhanced security at the Temporary Mission Facility and who ultimately was responsible for those decisions. The Committee extended
invitations to Ms. Lamb on three occasions prior to and after her reinstatementeach time, she refused to meet with the Committee.154 Unfortunately, even after Ms. Lamb was returned to full duty, the State Department did not make het
available to the Committee, something we believe should have been a priority for both Ms. Lamb and the State Department. Based on what we have learned during
the Committee's review, we believe Ms. Lamb's testimony is critical to the investigation of leadership failures.

We know from the testimony ofEric Nordstrom, who served as the Regional Security Officer in Libya until shortly before the attacks, that Ms. Lamb and other senior State Department officials were unreceptive to repeated requests from the Libyan mission regarding security personnel in both Tripoli and B******i. According to Mr. Nordstrom, the previous U.S. Ambassador to Libya, GeneCretz, and his Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM), Joan Polaschik, traveled to Washington in mid-February 2012 to specifically ask for additional security personnel. 155 in addition to meeting with Ms. Lamb, they met separately with Mr. Kennedy and
other senior officials. Yet, when the Libyan mission t***smitted its official request for additional security personnel on March 28, 2012, the push back from Ms.
Lamb's office was swift and significant. While the request, which included five temporary duty Diplomatic Security agents in B******i, was clearly reasonable, one of Ms. Lamb's subordinates asked Mr. Nordstrom why the official cable . sought "the sun, the moon, and the stars." When Mr. Nordstrom stated that he did not understand why this was an issue, the response from Ms. Lamb's office Was
telling: "Well, you know, this is a political game.


There you go,,,, a political game,,, and you defend that over the lives of fellow SEALS..... your mom must be proud of you!!
If you stayed in your bubble we would be satisfied... (show quote)


And, of course, it is worth pointing out that this is from the PARTISAN "Additional Views" section at the end of the report, signed by only six Republicans who want to keep the phony scandal alive. The rest of the report properly discusses these issues and others and does not reveal any wrongdoing by the president. As I have been saying all along, there are valid criticisms of the security arrangements in B******i, and that's about all this report uncovers.

And, again of course, you chose to cherry pick paragraphs and intentionally leave off parts of direct quotes to try to twist reality to make some point. You don't have an honest bone in your body.

Interestingly, even in your weak attempt here to show that you can read, you were not able to find anything that suggests that Obama ordered the military to not take action that detractors like you pretend that the military wanted. That was the biggest charge in the phony scandal, and neither the main report nor the partisan "Additional Views" say that he did. Failed phony scandal!

No doubt that what happened in B******i was a terrible tragedy and the security arrangements were inadequate. If there is a scandal here, it would be that the CIA got involved in covert operations in an unstable city in an unstable country knowing full well that security was inadequate, yet they did it anyway. Maybe they should be lauded for their courage, but maybe they should also be criticized for taking chances they didn't need to take.

You will keep this up forever. Have at it. Nobody cares what you say.

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Apr 1, 2014 19:15:59   #
Ve'hoe
 
OH,,,, that isn't true at all, that the Senate Select Committee is biased,,,,, what is true, is that YOU are the one "keeping up" your delusion, and banking that people wont actually read the entire report. Talk about conspiratorial nutcases!!

The entire report talked about the interference and lack of support from the white house, Which for your information is where your king lives,,, and that through the WH stonewalling the committee STILL does not have the documents they asked for.

Seems like YOU cant accept that your beliefs are so unsupportable and probably wrong, that you accuse everyone else of being conspiratorial and nuts,,, but it isn't us and you prove it with every bombastic tirade of denial!!

You are proving again and again, that you cannot tell the t***h, or even recognize it,, which gives insight into why you like and admire the Resident,, he is the liar you aspire to be,,,, and what you would do if you had power, which is why you weren't a real officer.

Hopefully, god is smiling on us, (even though you deny him he still cares about you,, why I don't know, so see God does make mistakes in your case) and the repubs will sweep the congress and senate, and get on with the impeachment, that he deserves,,, I wish we were closer, I would have a party and invite you over to watch him pout and claim r****m,,,, it will be such a hoot!!

No,, the security issues in B******i were not discussed they were dismissed by the State Dept as "politically not important" that is what it said, even that portion I gave you,,, under Madamme Clinton, the brothel chief... the state department, overflowing with inbred liberals, denied the security $$ based on politics,,,, and sacrificed the lives of your shipmates, whom you don't care one iota about.

What a liberal maggot you are!!! How do you look other MEN and women,,, not the inside the beltway green-eyeshade warriors like you, but real men and women, who actually did something in their careers,,,in the eyes???

Go ahead and respond with the "Oh quit it! quit it! I am not listening to you,,everybody thinks you are wrong and nobody likes you Vehoe defense" you are like a little girl!

God what an embarrassment to a uniform,,,did you where a dress??

RetNavyCWO wrote:
And, of course, it is worth pointing out that this is from the PARTISAN "Additional Views" section at the end of the report, signed by only six Republicans who want to keep the phony scandal alive. The rest of the report properly discusses these issues and others and does not reveal any wrongdoing by the president. As I have been saying all along, there are valid criticisms of the security arrangements in B******i, and that's about all this report uncovers.

And, again of course, you chose to cherry pick paragraphs and intentionally leave off parts of direct quotes to try to twist reality to make some point. You don't have an honest bone in your body.

Interestingly, even in your weak attempt here to show that you can read, you were not able to find anything that suggests that Obama ordered the military to not take action that detractors like you pretend that the military wanted. That was the biggest charge in the phony scandal, and neither the main report nor the partisan "Additional Views" say that he did. Failed phony scandal!

No doubt that what happened in B******i was a terrible tragedy and the security arrangements were inadequate. If there is a scandal here, it would be that the CIA got involved in covert operations in an unstable city in an unstable country knowing full well that security was inadequate, yet they did it anyway. Maybe they should be lauded for their courage, but maybe they should also be criticized for taking chances they didn't need to take.

You will keep this up forever. Have at it. Nobody cares what you say.
And, of course, it is worth pointing out that this... (show quote)

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Apr 1, 2014 19:26:46   #
Ve'hoe
 
Nobody,,, but a deluded green-eyeshade beltway warrior like you would even try this,, nobody said that,,, more delusion..

What was said, was the obozo, said nothing , and should have,, but if you would have read, what the report does say, is that no one but the Resident could give the order, and Mullen, nor Panetta,,, got the orders they sought,,,, so those seals died,, because of the Residents inaction,,,

Nobody said what you claim,,, quit making up lies, you have plenty of lies in this scandal ridden regime, that you don't need to make up more......

What are you gonna tell me next,,, they didn't die??
Or that those men weren't active duty so they weren't really seals???? Or B******i doesn't exist anymore, and never did, it is a conspiracy of the vast right wing!?!?!

BOOOOO OOOHHHH,,, man what is it like to live I your poisoned albeit, very small brain??

Enquiring minds want to know,,, but not very badly,,,


[quote=RetNavyCWO]Interestingly, even in your weak attempt here to show that you can read, you were not able to find anything that suggests that Obama ordered the military to not take action that detractors like you pretend that the military wanted. That was the biggest charge in the phony scandal, and neither the main report nor the partisan "Additional Views" say that he did. Failed phony scandal!

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Apr 2, 2014 13:51:15   #
Hungry Freaks
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Why do you rightwingers insist on labeling anyone who disagrees with you as "Obama idolizers" who "glorify your despicable idol." Neither I nor anyone else on this forum says any such thing. Don't you realize how stupid it makes you look?



It's their new-found knowledge of Saul Alinsky's attacks to deflect in an argument. Instead of dealing directly with the issue, they denigrate those who disagree with them.

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Apr 2, 2014 14:02:18   #
Ve'hoe
 
Go back and read the debunking of your "Fakths" that you asked for in your last slurred word ramble...before you confuse yourself more....


Hungry Freaks wrote:
It's their new-found knowledge of Saul Alinsky's attacks to deflect in an argument. Instead of dealing directly with the issue, they denigrate those who disagree with them.

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Apr 3, 2014 11:16:28   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
It's their new-found knowledge of Saul Alinsky's attacks to deflect in an argument. Instead of dealing directly with the issue, they denigrate those who disagree with them.

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Apr 3, 2014 15:54:53   #
Ve'hoe
 
Was there something more,,,, or did you pass out???

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