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Mar 29, 2014 17:56:19   #
Philippe Boeing
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Sorry. That didn't happen. Gen Ham continued to serve in his post at AFRICOM until his retirement about 8 months later. You're still believing all the phony hype generated by rightwingnut websites rather than read any of the official reports. Those reports, btw, contain plenty of valid criticisms, but you rightwingnuts don't want to bother with them. You would much rather bounce around in your bubble.


Yo warrent officer. The right wing nut seem to flip your skit at every turn.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:45:17   #
Ve'hoe
 
He was replaced on 18 October,,, regardless of how long it took to "pass the rag" He is right, you, as usual are covering for a thug and rogue resident..

So,,, now we know the answer to whom we want for that 3 AM call,,,,, none of the losers,,,,,

The order to save them was never given,,,that was the problem

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/top-africom-leader-general-carter-ham-was-never-ordered-to-save-us-men-in-b******i-video/



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RetNavyCWO wrote:
Sorry. That 18didn't happen. Gen Ham continued to serve in his post at AFRICOM until his retirement about 8 months later. You're still believing all the phony hype generated by rightwingnut websites rather than read any of the official reports. Those reports, btw, contain plenty of valid criticisms, but you rightwingnuts don't want to bother with them. You would much rather bounce around in your bubble.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:50:38   #
Ve'hoe
 
Be careful,,,, he doesn't like being proven wrong,, or anyone questioning,,,, the king,,, at least not us lowly subjects,,,,, who,, really should actually be proud to be shot for the Resident,,,, I mean,,, how would that look on your gravestone in Arlington,,,"I died like a man, rather than bother Obama or Hillary, cuz they were busy stealing"



Philippe Boeing wrote:
Yo warrent officer. The right wing nut seem to flip your skit at every turn.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:38:38   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Nope. Didn't happen. The attack started around 9:45 pm with a group of terrorists setting the facility on fire using diesel fuel while Amb Stevens was inside. Amb Stevens body was discovered about 3 hrs later (sometime before 1am) by a group of local Libyans and taken to a hospital, where he was dead on arrival. There's a very clear timeline in the senate report. You should read it rather than your bogus rightwingnut websites.


And this report was issued by none other then Hillary Clinton.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:02:29   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
cold iron wrote:
And this report was issued by none other then Hillary Clinton.




That's funny.

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Mar 31, 2014 13:09:14   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Why then, was he replaced and relieved from duty, for trying to do the job description clause of his duties, the "in extremis" response units were created to respond to just such emergencies, whether or not or what the time period, there should have a response, there where other conditions that prevented this from happening, the weapons program for Al'Qaeda comes to mind, with another 87 people in the compound, it seems strange there was no armed response, why would Gen. Ham be replaced while operation was ongoing and other Military assets, coordinating the logistics of deployment? Could there have been a "percentage" to having files disappear? Or was this a way divert attention from NATO's assessment of the 2011 Libyan Air Strike? Finally why did the P.M. at that time call it a terrorist attack while Susan Rice, Sec. Clinton, Husseyn-Obama, and the drug addled White House Press Staff, called it a demonstration gone bad? Yes I get it Ft. Hood had nothing to do with Al'Qaeda, or terrorism. There is no terrorism there never was, and never will, come on wake up..

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Mar 31, 2014 13:14:34   #
Ve'hoe
 
Reaction forces, are created to respond to ALL THREATS within a Commanders theater,,, this one was flubbed by the state department, (common to all endeavors of mss Clinton)
A reaction force has an ordered time to respond to all threats...or the "Area of Operations" AOR is t***sferred to a Commander at a level that can respond,,,, it is all,,, Standard Operating Procedures, and commanders make Agreements with other commanders to assist when they are in the other guys AOR.


rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Why then, was he replaced and relieved from duty, for trying to do the job description clause of his duties, the "in extremis" response units were created to respond to just such emergencies, whether or not or what the time period, there should have a response, there where other conditions that prevented this from happening, the weapons program for Al'Qaeda comes to mind, with another 87 people in the compound, it seems strange there was no armed response, why would Gen. Ham be replaced while operation was ongoing and other Military assets, coordinating the logistics of deployment? Could there have been a "percentage" to having files disappear? Or was this a way divert attention from NATO's assessment of the 2011 Libyan Air Strike? Finally why did the P.M. at that time call it a terrorist attack while Susan Rice, Sec. Clinton, Husseyn-Obama, and the drug addled White House Press Staff, called it a demonstration gone bad? Yes I get it Ft. Hood had nothing to do with Al'Qaeda, or terrorism. There is no terrorism there never was, and never will, come on wake up..
Why then, was he replaced and relieved from duty, ... (show quote)

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Mar 31, 2014 13:26:46   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
There is no expiration date on the protection or retrieval of American lives, why was the investigative team delayed? Why was the deception allowed to go as long as it has to this day?

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Mar 31, 2014 13:35:17   #
Ve'hoe
 
Well the initial reason was to get through the e******n and lie to the american public,,, then it worked, so they just ignored it........and are now angry that people who lost family are upset about it,, ingrates that they are.


rodulfo-tardo wrote:
There is no expiration date on the protection or retrieval of American lives, why was the investigative team delayed? Why was the deception allowed to go as long as it has to this day?

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Mar 31, 2014 14:34:12   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Treason? predisposed "collateral damage" or the guarantee of weapons distribution to Al'Qaeda that needed destruction, along with those involved in this case Ambassador Stevens, had personal knowledge of illegal t***sactions, to o*******w a sovereign state Syria, and considering that Ayman Al' Zawahiri, had condemned Al'Assad to death, plus his rejection to join the Qatari Arab/Spring/Revolt, makes this imply a collaboration between the highest levels of Al'Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood than what it has been misrepresented as. Husseyn-Obama's American Islamicate has backed both of these groups from 2009, explanation for the 80% increase of K.I.A. cannot be appropriately explained nor covered up, Iraq, the Maghrebi States, the Middle East, the Saudis have declared the Brotherhood a terrorist organization whilst Obama's official stance is, "that is not so" Bangladesh has followed suit, this situation has been politically corrected to death, the American public although afraid did not buy the sorry excuses they gave, even the two Sandys, Connecticut and the hurricane, would not have distracted the country to v**e him in a second time, but with the e******n results computed by a Spanish firm with ties to the Soros empire, those result are suspect to say the least, a program used by actuaries and in statistical adjustment for polls, and believe it or not the pharmaceutical industry in the exact ratios for loss of components in the manufacturing process compensates variations (weights, mass, loss) it reconciles for numbers trending opposite to those needed or expected, used to average numbers, based not on the actual results but on the projected numbers as those expected if the previous numbers had a bearing on results of real time v****g results as "trends" the e******n was decided on the average of previous results, this effectively eliminated any "E*******l College" monkey wrench, the One Party State is well.
Why and how much has been spent to cover up B******i? Well Pakistan's media enjoyed over $100,000 to project a caring tolerant diverse U.S. where the Muslim F*****t S*********ts are king, this deception has fundamentally t***sformed the United States of America to an Islamicate, this with purging of the Armed Forces, would put this country under the 'classification' of a captive state, a rogue state.

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Mar 31, 2014 14:55:38   #
Had enough
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Nobody disagrees at all that inadequate security measures were not in place to protect this covert CIA facility.

But how does any of this factor into your proposal to send in aerial combat planes to rescue them?

The problem you Obama-h**ers have is that you seem to be unable to separate

a: the pre-attack security issues
b. the attack itself
c. the public statements afterward.

Both a and c are very valid criticisms to which I don't think anyone disagrees (except for those who would add that it was all part of some big plan to assassinate Amb Stevens). But even Susan Rice's comments that have been so widely criticized included references to the effect that we would need to wait until the investigation was completed before we could know exactly what happened. H**ers choose to ignore that, though.

What I object to are the charges that Obama and Hillary and our military failed to do what could have been done to protect Amb Stevens and the others as the attack was underway. I believe the comments of the 4-star general in charge of AFRICOM when he said that there was no viable military operation.

Criticize Obama and Hillary as much as you want for a and c, and I will be right there with you! I would have to include Amb Stevens in that as well, though, as much as I dislike placing part of the blame on a victim, because he should not have been there if the place was not secured.
Nobody disagrees at all that inadequate security m... (show quote)

This would not even be open for discussion if troops had been sent prior to the attacks. k**lary chose to ignore the requests. All we want is the t***h!! WHY WEREN'T THEY GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY NEEDED!!!!!!

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Mar 31, 2014 15:25:00   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Because, she learned from her husband and, Madeline Allbright the Secretary of Statetism, who did the same exact thing when the same requests came from the Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, don't forget how Susan Rice, was responsible due to her prejudice towards Africa and Africans, did allow the Rwanda massacres, while the husband put Serbia on target to hand over Kosovo to Albania, simultaneously ignoring the jihadi massacres in Algeria, not to mention Somalia, the W.T.C. 2-23-93, the numerous terror attacks within the U.S. the capitulation to Al'Qaeda, their introduction of the Muslim Brotherhood to the U.S. Government, Intelligence Agencies, the HillScare medical big pharma inside trading travesties, finally 9-11-01, it was their totally illiterate Circus Act, that made it possible for the attack.

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Mar 31, 2014 16:51:44   #
Ricktloml
 
Philippe Boeing wrote:
You honestly think the General in charge would be in his post today if he did not fall on his sword for the Emperor?? Obama has been purging the military to either follow his directives or leave. Over 100 top officers to date. B******i was a set up from the get go and Hillary and Obama are complicit from removing the bullets fro the Marine guards at all US embassies in the region to putting known terrorist linked guards at the B******i compound. There are more than a few military officer who would totally disagree with your support of AFRICOM general politico's comment. Read a bit more chief read a bit more. http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/us_military_we_could_have_saved_ambassador_stevens.html
You honestly think the General in charge would be ... (show quote)


It is a very long list, and history tells us that when any leaders opt for this kind of purging, only bad comes of it. but you can bet Obama supporters will excuse this as well, if he murdered a five old child on national television, they would find a way to say the child deserved it

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Mar 31, 2014 18:14:05   #
Ve'hoe
 
Doesn't seem like anyone agrees with you,,,,, I thought you said they did???
Soooooo, everyone else,,, is wrong huh???

RetNavyCWO wrote:
I have never seen such a deluded group of people as I see here on this forum. Even Cong. Darrell Issa, who started all the B******i controversy, now says the facts show that there was nothing the military could have done to rescue Amb Stevens, that there was no "Stand Down" order. But, no, you rightwingnutjobs drank so much phony scandal koolaid that you refuse to acknowledge the t***h even when the leaders of your own party have abandoned the phony scandal. Maybe it's just laziness, but more than likely, you just get your jollies off by being h**e-mongers. Glad I'm not you.
I have never seen such a deluded group of people a... (show quote)

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Apr 1, 2014 10:40:02   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
cold iron wrote:
And this report was issued by none other then Hillary Clinton.


No, it wasn't. You are thinking about the State Dept report ISSUED by Amb Thomas Pickering (who served as ambassador under every Republican and Democratic president since Jimmy Carter) and ADM Mullen (who served as G.W. Bush's CJCS), which Hillary had nothing to do with. The Senate report wasn't issued until almost a year after Hillary Clinton left the State Department.

You don't bother to check your facts AT ALL!

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