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Mar 26, 2018 05:37:46   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
What are you thinking? Where the hell have you been... really? You know what, you have not a clue about what I'm talking about. I know all about what form of government we are, FederalRepublic which is a "branch" of Democracy and not the other way around...DUUUUUH

#3... actually think, and then get back to me, I'm continuing to lose my patience with you.
Learn about who put America on its knees buddy every time, not the Democrats, the Republicans. Who keeps people from not getting an education or health care.
What are you thinking? Where the hell have you bee... (show quote)

Branch of Democracy? That's not close. Read the Constitution.


Yes it is Democrats keeping people on there knees. Always has been.

Socialism is s***ery. You just don't want to admit it.

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Mar 26, 2018 09:25:31   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
Branch of Democracy? That's not close. Read the Constitution.


Yes it is Democrats keeping people on there knees. Always has been.

Socialism is s***ery. You just don't want to admit it.


Read the Constitution? What does that have to do with it? You don't understand the different forms of government.
There are five forms of government: monarchy, democracy, oligarchy, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism.

Democracy is a form where people are allowed the freedom to v**e, there are two types... a direct, and representative, which we fall into, unto the title of a federal republic, a federal republic governed by our constitutional laws. That is what our constitution is Dave, our book of laws.

and as Slatten stated very well in another post on the topic...

slatten49 wrote:
As stated in an earlier post, former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia described our nation as a democratic republic. A notable excerpt on the matter is in the 8th paragraph of the following link....http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-many-virtues-of-scalias-speeches/article/2009931

"Throughout his career, Scalia stressed that judges’ proper role in our constitutional system is crucial but limited: Courts should interpret the meaning of laws but the vast bulk of governance should be left to the people’s elected representatives. 'The American republic is a democracy,' Scalia says in a 2012 address, 'and the background rule of democracy is that the majority rules.' ”

S***ery... please, come on now Dave, socialism doesn't ens***e people, dictatorships do and those four other forms of government stated above. And by the way, a Republic can fall into becoming ruled by a dictator if allowed or achieved by a corrupt o*******w as in Venezuela or and some will say Putin with Russia in their crooked v**e that just past.

Are we at an understanding yet?

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Mar 26, 2018 10:01:28   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do with it? You don't understand the different forms of government.
There are five forms of government: monarchy, democracy, oligarchy, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism.

Democracy is a form where people are allowed the freedom to v**e, there are two types... a direct, and representative, which we fall into, unto the title of a federal republic, a federal republic governed by our constitutional laws. That is what our constitution is Dave, our book of laws.

and as Slatten stated very well in another post on the topic...

slatten49 wrote:
As stated in an earlier post, former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia described our nation as a democratic republic. A notable excerpt on the matter is in the 8th paragraph of the following link....http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-many-virtues-of-scalias-speeches/article/2009931

"Throughout his career, Scalia stressed that judges’ proper role in our constitutional system is crucial but limited: Courts should interpret the meaning of laws but the vast bulk of governance should be left to the people’s elected representatives. 'The American republic is a democracy,' Scalia says in a 2012 address, 'and the background rule of democracy is that the majority rules.' ”

S***ery... please, come on now Dave, socialism doesn't ens***e people, dictatorships do and those four other forms of government stated above. And by the way, a Republic can fall into becoming ruled by a dictator if allowed or achieved by a corrupt o*******w as in Venezuela or and some will say Putin with Russia in their crooked v**e that just past.

Are we at an understanding yet?
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do w... (show quote)
Good Lord Morgan, stop being stubborn and think.

Pay attention and learn. Democracy is a tool used in our Republic.

America is not a Democracy. It never has been.

Originally all citizens didn't v**e, just land owners. Now all citizens can v**e but states are guaranteed a minimum amount of power regardless of their population.

In a Democracy all citizens have equal leverage with their v**e. IOW, mob rule

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Mar 26, 2018 10:10:28   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
Good Lord Morgan, stop being stubborn and think.

Pay attention and learn. Democracy is a tool used in our Republic.

America is not a Democracy. It never has been.

Originally all citizens didn't v**e, just land owners. Now all citizens but states are guaranteed a minimum amount of power regardless of their population.

In a Democracy all citizens have equal leverage with their v**e. IOW, mob rule


Learn what a democracy is man! It is not simply a political party, it is a form of government run by the citizens, you didn't read anything I wrote, you are obstinate beyond reason even after what I've shown you. It serves no purpose t continue with you, stay in your ignorance by choice. Good day sir.

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Mar 26, 2018 10:19:09   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
Learn what a democracy is man! It is not simply a political party, it is a form of government run by the citizens, you didn't read anything I wrote, you are obstinate beyond reason even after what I've shown you. It serves no purpose t continue with you, stay in your ignorance by choice. Good day sir.

I did read what you wrote, which is why I tried to teach you the t***h.

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Mar 26, 2018 10:27:43   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Morgan wrote:
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do with it? You don't understand the different forms of government.
There are five forms of government: monarchy, democracy, oligarchy, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism.

Democracy is a form where people are allowed the freedom to v**e, there are two types... a direct, and representative, which we fall into, unto the title of a federal republic, a federal republic governed by our constitutional laws. That is what our constitution is Dave, our book of laws.

and as Slatten stated very well in another post on the topic...

slatten49 wrote:
As stated in an earlier post, former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia described our nation as a democratic republic. A notable excerpt on the matter is in the 8th paragraph of the following link....http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-many-virtues-of-scalias-speeches/article/2009931

"Throughout his career, Scalia stressed that judges’ proper role in our constitutional system is crucial but limited: Courts should interpret the meaning of laws but the vast bulk of governance should be left to the people’s elected representatives. 'The American republic is a democracy,' Scalia says in a 2012 address, 'and the background rule of democracy is that the majority rules.' ”

S***ery... please, come on now Dave, socialism doesn't ens***e people, dictatorships do and those four other forms of government stated above. And by the way, a Republic can fall into becoming ruled by a dictator if allowed or achieved by a corrupt o*******w as in Venezuela or and some will say Putin with Russia in their crooked v**e that just past.

Are we at an understanding yet?
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do w... (show quote)


Your belief that Socialism doesn't ens***e is refuted by the countries that have tried or are currently living under such systems. Friedrich von Hayek made a clear case for such s***ery in his book "The Road to Serfdom" an indictment of the British Socialistic government. He "warns of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning." He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual."

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Mar 26, 2018 12:47:37   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
I did read what you wrote, which is why I tried to teach you the t***h.


You tried to force your t***h/ your perspective onto me, we can see that's not going to happen as long as Trump is in office.

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Mar 26, 2018 12:51:40   #
Morgan
 
pafret wrote:
Your belief that Socialism doesn't ens***e is refuted by the countries that have tried or are currently living under such systems. Friedrich von Hayek made a clear case for such s***ery in his book "The Road to Serfdom" an indictment of the British Socialistic government. He "warns of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning." He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual."
Your belief that Socialism doesn't ens***e is refu... (show quote)


Completely untrue and a very opinionated. In complete contradiction Democratic socialism can mean Social democracy as in Sweden, Denmark and other Scandinavian countries and that works, Denmark is the happiest country in the world while Sweden, Norway and Finland are among the happiest.

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Mar 26, 2018 14:20:21   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Morgan wrote:
Completely untrue and a very opinionated. In complete contradiction Democratic socialism can mean Social democracy as in Sweden, Denmark and other Scandinavian countries and that works, Denmark is the happiest country in the world while Sweden, Norway and Finland are among the happiest.


The governments of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden are all some form of parliamentary democracy. Their happiness index may undergo a rapid change because the immigration policies of these countries may be their undoing. Iceland's economy collapsed for the same reasons ours is destined to do the same. You need also to note that none of these maintains much of a standing army. Most of the heavy lifting in preserving world peace is done by us directly with 55% of our budget going to the DOD and indirectly through subsidies to other nation's military. If we cut our military expenditures down to 30% we could send everybody to college free and have a lot left over for new industries to soak up our unused labor pool. That would make me very happy.

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Mar 26, 2018 18:34:09   #
Morgan
 
pafret wrote:
The governments of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden are all some form of parliamentary democracy. Their happiness index may undergo a rapid change because the immigration policies of these countries may be their undoing. Iceland's economy collapsed for the same reasons ours is destined to do the same. You need also to note that none of these maintains much of a standing army. Most of the heavy lifting in preserving world peace is done by us directly with 55% of our budget going to the DOD and indirectly through subsidies to other nation's military. If we cut our military expenditures down to 30% we could send everybody to college free and have a lot left over for new industries to soak up our unused labor pool. That would make me very happy.
The governments of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norw... (show quote)


Yes I realize that, my point being that these countries run social programs but like ourselves, that doesn't equate to a "socialistic government" We are a Federal Republic, which if not careful can be o*******wn by a tyrant once elected.


That would make me very happy also.

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Mar 27, 2018 07:55:04   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do with it? You don't understand the different forms of government.
There are five forms of government: monarchy, democracy, oligarchy, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism.

Democracy is a form where people are allowed the freedom to v**e, there are two types... a direct, and representative, which we fall into, unto the title of a federal republic, a federal republic governed by our constitutional laws. That is what our constitution is Dave, our book of laws.

and as Slatten stated very well in another post on the topic...

slatten49 wrote:
As stated in an earlier post, former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia described our nation as a democratic republic. A notable excerpt on the matter is in the 8th paragraph of the following link....http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-many-virtues-of-scalias-speeches/article/2009931

"Throughout his career, Scalia stressed that judges’ proper role in our constitutional system is crucial but limited: Courts should interpret the meaning of laws but the vast bulk of governance should be left to the people’s elected representatives. 'The American republic is a democracy,' Scalia says in a 2012 address, 'and the background rule of democracy is that the majority rules.' ”

S***ery... please, come on now Dave, socialism doesn't ens***e people, dictatorships do and those four other forms of government stated above. And by the way, a Republic can fall into becoming ruled by a dictator if allowed or achieved by a corrupt o*******w as in Venezuela or and some will say Putin with Russia in their crooked v**e that just past.

Are we at an understanding yet?
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do w... (show quote)
You keep saying the Constitution has nothing to do with our form of government, yet the Constitution is the sole document that defines our government. And then you ask me if I understand? Are you just acting dense?

Perhaps not since the form of government defines the power it's leader has to ens***e its citizens.

Are you truly unaware of the fact that Socialists and C*******ts can only ens***e people because their citizens don't have the liberty and freedoms that Americans have because of the defining of government power in the Constitution and especially the guarantees of liberty in the Bill of Rights?

For pity's sake. Tell me you are joking, or on meds or something.

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Mar 27, 2018 09:30:05   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
You keep saying the Constitution has nothing to do with our form of government, yet the Constitution is the sole document that defines our government. And then you ask me if I understand? Are you just acting dense?

Perhaps not since the form of government defines the power it's leader has to ens***e its citizens.

Are you truly unaware of the fact that Socialists and C*******ts can only ens***e people because their citizens don't have the liberty and freedoms that Americans have because of the definition of government power in the Constitution and especially the guarantees of liberty in the Bill of Rights?

For pity's sake. Tell me you are joking, or on meds or something.
You keep saying the Constitution has nothing to do... (show quote)



You are thick headed beyond words I NEVER said the constitution has nothing to do with our form of government! Geeeez...Learn to read and comprehend and I don't keep saying it, how dense do you want to be? My quote

Read the Constitution? What does that have to do with it? You don't understand the different forms of government.

Anyone can read in the constitution that we are a republic, yes, we are a federal republic under a democracy. Again...there are two types... a direct, and representative... we "are" represented, hence... a republic under a democracy.
There are five forms of government: monarchy, democracy, oligarchy, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism.

Did you read this?

Democracy is not a "tool" Democracy is at our core ideology in which the citizens through their v**e determines what happens in the direction of the country.

Democracy- a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives. Control of an organization or group by the majority of its members.

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Mar 27, 2018 12:29:22   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
Learn what a democracy is man! It is not simply a political party, it is a form of government run by the citizens, you didn't read anything I wrote, you are obstinate beyond reason even after what I've shown you. It serves no purpose t continue with you, stay in your ignorance by choice. Good day sir.
That is a complete quote of what you said.

America's form of government is "Republic"

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Mar 27, 2018 12:32:52   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan(partial) wrote:
Read the Constitution? What does that have to do with it?.......
Another quote from you.

And you finished this post with a smarty-pants sentence that you should apply to yourself.

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