pafret Loc: Northeast

There have been a lot of mysterious deaths in the spy community over the years. One can only thank God that they are attacking each other rather than the ordinary citizen.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Hillary and Bill have quite a dead flesh flotsam.

Morgan

You're really stuck in a Clinton rut Dave, even now, do you really think everything revolves around them?

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

You still stuck on Trump Russia collusion?

Hillary / Obama used FISA to spy on the Trump campaign. That has been proven. FISA is supposed to be used to investigate terrorists and spies. That was a big line that they crossed.

Morgan

I see President Obama having every right, as president and commander in chief. If he had suspicions of coercion or collusion he should investigate as his due diligence. This is 100 times more important than pinning a president down for lying about a bj, how costly was that fiasco?

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

They used f**e evidence to get a warrant on an opposing political campaign. Nobody thought Carter Page was a spy.

And BTW, Clinton was impeached because he perjured himself in order to deny an American citizen and victim if sexual harrassment from receiving a fair trial, not for a bj.

Morgan

F**e evidence according to who... you?

I recall the incident, he perjured himself under the definition of "sexual relations". Her being a victim...in my opinion was and is a bigger lie than his. I think she was a plant in order to nail him for something considering all their other efforts failed.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Also according to Comey, who said the dossier was unverified and salacious.

Morgan... Think about it... The dossier was leaked to the media months ago, and not a single l*****t journalist has verified any of the 'salacious' details... None.. Not a single one...

Do you seriously think that they haven't checked?

pafret Loc: Northeast

Lewinsky has recently discussed this period of her life and freely admits that the incidents were consensual. However, she indicates that it was exploitative in that Clinton used his high position to influence and persuade her to acquiesce to his sexual demands. This is a problem whenever there are such relations between a subordinate and one of much higher position. Certainly the difference in ages made these encounters unseemly.

Clinton's problem was in lying under oath about the nature of the relationship, which he did to preserve his political position. It was a done deal that Hillary wouldn't care since she had abetted repeated sexual infidelities. It had reached the point where it was of no moral significance to her, just another set of mouths to shut, more bimbos to suppress.

Morgan

Salacious details, which are those you speak of?

Morgan

Much of what you say is conjecture as far as how she felt, and her infidelities seem to be more accusations and twists then t***h, but without a doubt, she is an ambitious woman in her own right and as any politician especially one in her position past and present, she knows well how the game is played. She working within, the good old boy club, her battle was like no others, especially against the side of the right. Now if she had been on the Republican ticket I think we would've had a much different story to tell now, don't you?

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Trump paying hookers to pee in his bed is the first that comes to mind.

Salacious enough?

Morgan

Whaaaaaaat? I've must have missed that one Dave.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Its called Golden Showers

pafret Loc: Northeast

Not my conjecture, her writings. She was there, I wasn't. A twenty two year old is hardly a seasoned politician, which is why she had an intern's post. Unfortunately it seems that people who occupy these positions of power all run to the same disorders; they all poach the defenseless women they come in contact with. We sneer at the mentality which medieval lords possessed which said their peasants were property and they had the Droit du Seigneur which was the alleged medieval custom whereby the feudal lord had the right to have sex with the bride of his vassal on their wedding night before she went to her husband.

Politicians believe in Droit du Seignur, in sex with unwilling woman, with non conformance with laws, in providing themselves with perks and benefits at public expense and they give every indication that they are a ruling class. I would like to see a law that says eligibility for public office is forbidden to any relative within three degrees of consanguinity for a period of fifteen years from the time another relative leaves office. No more dynasties, we have plenty of people in this country and we will never run short of politicians.