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I don't believe conservatives are afraid democrats will pass a bill outlawing guns anytime in the near future. What fears conservatives is the small continuous chipping away by States and the federal government with over 2000 laws passed combined fed and states.
Were will this lead. Currently it is illegal for an American citizen to open carry a gun anywhere in all 50 states and illegal to have a clip legal in one state but not another. Our rights right now have been infringed, unconstitutionaly. Conservatives see an erosion of rights leading to bans and the possibility of a future confiscation once one is aware to the extent of laws passed to date. Where will we be in 30-40 years, another 2000 additional laws?

Wm. E. Smith

Well, what you said was true, and we need more folks like you to tell the t***h about things.
Our young are being taught that telling lies is socially acceptable.
Thanks again EAGLEYE13 !

politediscourse

And with that you have struck at the heart of the matter. How can we have a reasonable dialog about firearms when there is a nagging suspicion that every concession is a move to eliminate gun ownership through stealthy incremental gains. It there any proof that this or that new restriction will actually make us Safer. Can anyone cite research saying that raising the gun ownership age to 21 will help or is it “Just Common Sense”? BTW does that “just common sense” apply to those same individuals that join the armed forces? Consider this little bit of quackery the left has introduced: “Gun Violence”. I have never met a violent gun; most seem rather mundane and taciturn. So now we don’t want to eliminate murder just a murder involving a gun? Is an accident involving a gun considered “gun violence”? Is suicide involving a gun, “gun violence”? The states that have passed assisted suicide measures also have restrictive gun laws so are we to assume you can k**l yourself there as long as it’s not with a gun? The left always is pointing out that “gun violence” is almost non-existent in Europe. True, because Europe has very restrictive gun laws, oh but the murder rate there is about the same as it is in the U.S. for caucasians i.e 1.6 per 100,000 which is identical to that of France and Finland. They just use rocks or knives or poison or hand grenades or something else to k**l each other. Our rates in the U.S. are skewered by the black population, which has a murder rate of 11.5 per 100,000 most by illegal guns. Want to solve that violence then legalize all forms of drugs like Spain did and there won’t be any turf wars. But as long as the airwaves push propaganda like “Gun Violence” at us then beware. Its like I mentioned above about redefinitions. The left has moved the discussion away from violence to violence involving guns. It’s not the same discussion and as demonstrated in Europe removing guns does not directly equate to stopping violence. Many on the left are just philosophically opposed to firearm ownership, which is fine. But when will they learn that then ends do not justify the means. If fact they often result in catastrophes never imagined.