tombrady

Paul wrote in Romans 13:1: "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resist authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment

Johnlawret

The wrongful thinking here is that in Paul's time the Emporer was the ultimate authority. In our Constitutional Republic the citizens are the ultimate authority and contrary to his belief Obama is accountable to "We the People" who are the government. Another factor is that we still have a seperation of powers even though the Legislative and Judical branches seem to have surrendered their authority to the Executive branch this can change when the citizens decide they are tired of Obama ruling by fiat and elect a congress who will have the guts to exercise their authority and will quit rubber stamping judical nominees and v**e articles of impeachment for Obama exceeding his Constitutional Authority.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Wow, Tom - guess those in N**i Germany were sinful - the few who opposed Hitler.

C'mon Tom, you're better than that, aren't you?

donc711 Loc: North East Kansas

What Paul wrote would seem correct. The differences between emporers, kings and republics is as Johnlawret stated. We live in a Republic supposedly. The differences between governments arises from how they are they come to power. God creating governments was sited for the purpose making a safe atmosphere for the people to live in. Safe from invaders who would cause suffering for that countrys citizens. The reference to N**i Germany is a prime example of a government gone wrong. We are seeing that happen here also in Amreica. We have a president that is very radical and a congress that is polerized causing them as a body to be incapable of correct action. Obama should have been impeached during his first term of office. He violated several edicts of our constitution during that period. Obama's kind of government in these United Sates, is not the same government set up by God. It is the usurpation of power not deligated to the administrative branch by our constitution. He is selctive in how he chooses to uphold our laws side stepping congress, and working to change laws he disagrees with. That disagreeing is no reason to allow law breakers free reign in our country. No Paul's statement is correct and social acceptance of today is wrong.

dbleach3

But didn't President Obama say that "We are no longer a Christian nation."

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

He did make that proclamation but was in the midst of his trip of apology to Muslims and didn't look too far down the road before his lips flapped in another of his tales.

donc711 Loc: North East Kansas

It is his real self. He said he is a Muslim in one of his campaign speaches. He also refered to the Quran as the Holy Quran. He also has made stops in one of the Holiest Mosques on one of his junkets to Afganistan. He even stated America is not a Christain nation any longer. He has had symbols important to Christains removed from private land in open defience of a federal court ruling. So anything I have said about him is substansiated. He is an ilegal president and needs to be impeached.

Slingblade68 Loc: Charleston SC

Hear, Hear
Excellent observation. Moreover, succinctly put. This simple paragraph should be on every Senator and Congressman's door. I am still deciding on the supreme Court .
How quickly Americans have forgotten that "We the People " are the only reason these representatives are in Office. I'll be honest. I am still baffled by the E*******l college. Maybe you could explain why they are necessary. I am not adept with the How's and Why's of it all.

tombrady

C'mon Dave obviously I was being sarcastic and poking fun of those who call us a Christian nation and the bible commandments are all true and must rule the land

tombrady

You should goggle ....bush on Islam ... And see all the glorious comments he has repeatedly made of this great religion...bushes words not mine

donc711 Loc: North East Kansas

That is basic Bible. Now take a look at a Republic. The USA was established as a Republic. That equates to people rule, something that was not around in Paul's day. We have a Constitution and Bill of Rights that were not heard of either. What we have is God given and is the authority set up by God. It does have a difference also from Roman rule and authority. The people have the duty to protect our constitution and our republic, as stated in our Constitution, from all enemies foriegn and domestic. That was set up because there is ever the danger of usurpitation by unscrupulous men. What that means is if someone trys to set up a dictatorship or something akin to one in these United States we need to remove him by any and all means. First of course it aught to be congress's responsibility to remove that person by impeachment. If that fails then it is the people's responsibilty to remove that person by special e******n or force if no other recourse is possible. It is a God given right of a Republic which was set up by God as the authority of the government because it is the people who elect and it is the people who control. The people then are the government. So it is beyond me why Obama is still in office except for his ability to fool most of the people with his rhetoric.

zorro

It is irrelevant if our nation is Christian or not, as far as the government goes. It is more a question of if our government
has been infected with any religious preference. Our government
should not be persuaded by any religious viewpoint.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Tom - I thought I saw somewhere where you stated that you were a Roman Catholic. The last I knew, the Pope still supports the Bible as the word of God - the only difference between Catholics and other Christian believers, I think, is that the Catholic Church holds itself as the sole intepreter of the Bible whereas other religions allow for individual interpretations.

Meanwhile, the point of those who speak to the subject with intelligence, is that this country was founded on Christian principles - and I'd hope you wouldn't argue against that historical fact.

Meanwhile, you in another post, along with many other liberals, call the idea of welfare programs appropriate meeting responsibilities laid out for Christian believers. Don't you think it hypocritical to call religion into the conversation in support of what you consider good government policy and then disdain others for doing the same thing on their issues.

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

I wonder what the penalty is for resisting God, and v****g for Obama.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

I don't know the answer to that question - but there sure are penalties in this world for v****g for Obama