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Feb 2, 2018 13:13:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
READ IT HERE

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Feb 2, 2018 13:17:13   #
vernon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:



I will let d.j.and airforceone read it and tell us how awful it is.

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Feb 2, 2018 13:17:28   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


You just beat me to it by 4 minutes. Dang it!

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Feb 2, 2018 13:21:06   #
bahmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


Now we need to get rid of Rosenstein and Mueller and end the witch hunt.

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Feb 2, 2018 13:26:46   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bahmer wrote:
Now we need to get rid of Rosenstein and Mueller and end the witch hunt.


Pretty much an anticlimax if you ask me. After all the bluster, I was expecting so much more. All it really says is what we already knew. Yeah, there's some 'there' there. I'll be interested to see how much mileage is gained from it. Not much by my reckoning, but we'll see.

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Feb 2, 2018 13:27:44   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


This is very troubling and scary for me as US citizen!!!

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Feb 2, 2018 13:36:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
You just beat me to it by 4 minutes. Dang it!
It ain't about who posts it.

If you have studied law or have a law degree, you can read the redacted Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court 2016 opinion HERE

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Feb 2, 2018 13:48:21   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
bahmer wrote:
Now we need to get rid of Rosenstein and Mueller and end the witch hunt.


No!!!I think it would be political suicide if he does that!!! He needs to let it happen naturally!!!

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Feb 2, 2018 13:49:46   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I have a general question for anyone that may know.... If the warrants were not legal, then can the case be legal? If the case is not legal, does this means that Mueller must start over and not use any of the Steele Dossier because up until today, nothing in the Dossier has been validated?

Second question.... what does this do to the integrity of FBI? And, does this mean that Carter Page is now off the hook?

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Feb 2, 2018 13:54:53   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
The memo says what we already knew from the 40 page report from Infowars a while back.

If I remember correctly they filed for 3 warrants 90 days a piece thats 9 months.
They were supposed to end surveillance in 2016, but they kept surveillance running past the e******n.
It just proves everything we’ve been saying. The Obama bureaucrats conspired with the Clinton campaign to sabotage the Trumpy...and of course the f**e stream see'eye'aye anderson pooper media was complicit in the Russian Collusion Narrative that we all knew was a h**x....Oh Yeah;lets not forget that Johnny McStain was involved as well.

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Feb 2, 2018 14:06:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
The leaks of the memo were more interesting than the actual release here..

We pretty well knew all of what is said here other than having the actual names of the scum involved...

I know Nunez had to retract things from the first writing but where is the information on the supposed FBI agents and the DOJ?? Why was it removed?? There has already been a release before??The Nunes Memo (before altered)reportedly alleges that at least a dozen FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors fabricated evidence, engaged in a criminal conspiracy to commit perjury, lucked out on being randomly assigned to the Judge known as Judge Low Blood Sugar who looked the other way, and ~~ coincidentally ~~ended up obtaining evidence that justified extending the initial FISA surveillance.?? Just more questions with that one ...

Top secret handling when it involves our government employees?

Regardless of their level in the change of command they are not above the law and when they violate it, it is incumbent upon the proper authorities to charge them.Here the DOJ is actively involved, so we can pretty well see it will go nowhere..IT hasn't thus far so why believe anything more will be done??

Trump just needs to bring the FBI and the DOJ under his control and charge every single one that is directly or indirectly involved!!
The abuse of power unconscionable especially at this level..

Just confirms they are a bunch or rats!!!

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Feb 2, 2018 14:14:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Pretty much an anticlimax if you ask me. After all the bluster, I was expecting so much more. All it really says is what we already knew. Yeah, there's some 'there' there. I'll be interested to see how much mileage is gained from it. Not much by my reckoning, but we'll see.
We knew the memo was only 4 pages, we knew the reactions from congress critters who read it, we heard the media hype, the speculations, the endless OpEds, and the l*****t attempts to discredit the memo, we've heard the snowflakes scream, but now we have a synopsis of a year long investigation by a congressional oversight committee that reveals an egregious abuse of power by Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and high ranking members of the FBI and DOJ appointed by Obama.

We know now that the DNC and Hillary campaign did, in fact, through the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS pay British spy, Christopher Steele, $160,000 to concoct a f**e dossier that reported derogatory information on Donald Trump. We know that the FBi separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information. We know that at least five high ranking members of the FBI and DOJ signed renewals for the FISA warrant authorizing surveillance of a member of the Trump campaign.

What we don't know is what will be done about this. Personally, I see a whole bunch of political criminals who should be prosecuted.

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Feb 2, 2018 14:40:55   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I have a general question for anyone that may know.... If the warrants were not legal, then can the case be legal? If the case is not legal, does this means that Mueller must start over and not use any of the Steele Dossier because up until today, nothing in the Dossier has been validated?


The big deal is that various government departments, as actually named in the memo, used a politically-charged document to convince a FISA court judge to give them access to unmasked intelligence collected by the NSA on the Trump campaign through 2016 and 2017, thus aiding the Clinton campaign in their efforts to get Hillary Clinton elected.

That's a huge no-no. Government agencies are legally obliged to be impartial in the political campaigning process. Some of these politically appointed government officials may well be heading for prison over this, in the course of many years of drawn-out legal proceedings and ultimately prosecutions, of course.

Pennylynn wrote:
Second question.... what does this do to the integrity of FBI? And, does this mean that Carter Page is now off the hook?


The actual 'boots on the ground' at the FBI? Not much. They had nothing to do with this and very likely knew nothing of it. No, it's the signatories on these court petitions who will be facing some interesting questions once the dust settles. That's why they wanted their names redacted before release, so the public wouldn't know who they were looking at.

As for Carter Page, who knows? There's a million ways to spin a simple sentence made in total innocence to make the 'target' look guilty as hell. He had no idea he was being 'watched', so who knows, how many things do we all say every day that might be construed to mean something entirely different? One thing is for sure, there's a sitting President who now knows which of his employees were trying to make his life as difficult as they could before the e******n. How many ways could he think up to screw them right back?

Ha! And they were worried about what Hillary might do over the email scandal.

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Feb 2, 2018 16:24:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
lindajoy wrote:
The leaks of the memo were more interesting than the actual release here..

We pretty well knew all of what is said here other than having the actual names of the scum involved...

I know Nunez had to retract things from the first writing but where is the information on the supposed FBI agents and the DOJ?? Why was it removed?? There has already been a release before??The Nunes Memo (before altered)reportedly alleges that at least a dozen FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors fabricated evidence, engaged in a criminal conspiracy to commit perjury, lucked out on being randomly assigned to the Judge known as Judge Low Blood Sugar who looked the other way, and ~~ coincidentally ~~ended up obtaining evidence that justified extending the initial FISA surveillance.?? Just more questions with that one ...

Top secret handling when it involves our government employees?

Regardless of their level in the change of command they are not above the law and when they violate it, it is incumbent upon the proper authorities to charge them.Here the DOJ is actively involved, so we can pretty well see it will go nowhere..IT hasn't thus far so why believe anything more will be done??

Trump just needs to bring the FBI and the DOJ under his control and charge every single one that is directly or indirectly involved!!
The abuse of power unconscionable especially at this level..

Just confirms they are a bunch or rats!!!
The leaks of the memo were more interesting than t... (show quote)
The memo points directly to an unconstitutional abuse of power by Hillary Clinton, the DNC and the Obama admin, the FBI and DOJ were the weapons they used. Thinking that this will go nowhere is to miss the big picture. The Big Picture is this: From the moment president Trump took office, he began to expose the true colors of the liberal progressive movement, which can be symbolized in a red background with a yellow hammer and sickle printed upon it. Just look what Trump has done in this regard and consider the real impact in the release of this memo. As the Good Book says, "there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open."

We have an unprecedented outrage here, linda, a criminal political enterprise so unconscionable that there is no way it is going to stop here. Our AG has just sent his recommendations for an investigation of this malfeasance to the DOJ Inspector General. Moreover, millions of Americans are demanding action. So, let's hold off on downplaying what might come from this and keep the pressure on.

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Feb 2, 2018 16:25:03   #
guitarman Loc: University Park, Florida
 
The memo gives Trump the moral authority to fire any one connected to this fraudulent investigation by Mueller, most of these people and many others in the Obama Administration, Hillary staff and both Clintons will eventually be indicted and go to prison. The entitled b***h has and will cause the destruction of many of the staff and people around her. It is all Hillary Clinton fault.

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