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Jan 13, 2018 23:53:05   #
I.R. Wayright
 
You catch on real fast Roy.



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Jan 14, 2018 00:20:00   #
Morgan
 
sgtcharlestreadwayusmcr wrote:
emarine:
First off, your statement. "Trump has prove(d) to be a loose cannon who doesn't know when to shut up."
Should read as: Trump has prove(n) to be a loose cannon who doesn't know when to shut up.

Second thing. Show me where it states in the, First Amendment, that, President Trump, must conform to your
idea of, Freedom of Speech.

I'm sure, President Trump, knows more about what's in, and why, about the Constitution than you do.

Just how much experence do you have, at being, President?
You're critisizing a person for doing a job, that you have NO experence at.
emarine: br First off, your statement. "Trump... (show quote)



I don't bother correcting one's grammatical errors because we all make them, it is petty and anal- retentive but in your case, I'll make an exception.

Trump has proved to be a loose cannon, is grammatically correct, Trump had proven to be a loose cannon is also correct, but you are being an anal critic. You've spelled the word experience incorrectly twice along with the word criticizing or criticizing but not critisizing.

As far as I can tell Trump had as much experience at being a president as emarine, except I believe emarine would be doing a much better job, he's not a lying lunatic.

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Jan 14, 2018 04:33:47   #
PeterS
 
mactheknife wrote:
You obviously plagiarized that list from the Web without providing a citation. In my business (academia), that would get you fired. Shame, shame.


I copied it off a post in this thread. If you had been paying attention to this thread you would have already read it at least a couple times. Whether they cited it, I don't know I really wasn't paying attention...

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Jan 14, 2018 04:37:05   #
PeterS
 
Morgan wrote:
I don't bother correcting one's grammatical errors because we all make them, it is petty and anal- retentive but in your case, I'll make an exception.

Trump has proved to be a loose cannon, is grammatically correct, Trump had proven to be a loose cannon is also correct, but you are being an anal critic. You've spelled the word experience incorrectly twice along with the word criticizing or criticizing but not critisizing.

As far as I can tell Trump had as much experience at being a president as emarine, except I believe emarine would be doing a much better job, he's not a lying lunatic.
I don't bother correcting one's grammatical errors... (show quote)

Here, here...

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Jan 14, 2018 04:40:46   #
PeterS
 
I.R. Wayright wrote:
I'll tell you who has a mental problem. It's all the sore losers that can't accept the reality that their candidate lost the e******n.
And I would wager that 90% of those "psychiatrists v**ed for the loser too. So that should indicate where THEIR heads are.

And how does the fact that Hillary lost change the fact that Donald is a lunatic? Do you think his sanity only centers around being president? No matter who had won Trump would be just as nutty as he is today...

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Jan 14, 2018 10:49:44   #
Morgan
 
PeterS wrote:
Here, here...



Thank you Peter, the reasonably sane must stick together

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Jan 14, 2018 12:55:33   #
Ricktloml
 
I.R. Wayright wrote:
You catch on real fast Roy.




Wow. What a great photo. Is that gem of a feline yours?

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Jan 14, 2018 14:31:07   #
cbpat1
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Jon Rappoport ~ January 11, 2018
This originally appeared at NoMoreF**eNews.com on January 10, 2018.
— After investigating psychiatry for two decades, I’m confident that, if we could go back and rewrite history, deleting all psychiatrists on the planet, so they’d never exist — deleting their diagnoses and their drugs — this would have resulted in a massive upsurge in mental health, moving forward —

The Daily Mail: “A group of leading psychiatrists told a conference that Donald Trump has clear hallmarks of mental illness that compromise his role as president. Twenty-five researchers made a drastic break away from ethical standards by meeting at Yale University on Thursday to discuss evidence questioning the commander-in-chief’s mental health.”

Psychiatrist Allen Frances, who has played a central role in defining mental disorders, disagrees. He wrote in the NY Times: “Most amateur diagnosticians have mislabeled (Mr. Trump as having) narcissistic personality disorder. He may be a world-class narcissist, but this doesn’t make him mentally ill.”

Dr. Frances makes an interesting point. He distinguishes between behavior and earning a badge for having a particular mental disorder.

For example, a person can be sad, but that alone doesn’t make him a candidate for the label, “clinical depression.” A person can take aggressive actions against authority, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is suffering from Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

Consider the accusation that Trump has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). What does that mean? What is the official definition of NPD? Here is an excerpt from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the official bible of the American Psychiatric Association. Go ahead, plow through it, it’ll only take a minute:

The definition of NPD states that it comprises of a persistent manner of grandiosity, a continuous desire for admiration, along with a lack of empathy. It starts by early adulthood and occurs in a range of situations, as signified by the existence of any 5 of the next 9 standards (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):

• A grandiose logic of self-importance
• A fixation with fantasies of infinite success, control, brilliance, beauty, or idyllic love
• A credence that he or she is extraordinary and exceptional and can only be understood by, or should connect with, other extraordinary or important people or institutions
• A desire for unwarranted admiration
• A sense of entitlement
• Interpersonally oppressive behavior
• No form of empathy
• Resentment of others or a conviction that others are resentful of him or her
• A display of egotistical and conceited behaviors or attitudes”

“…No actual physical characteristics are seen with NPD, but patients may have concurrent substance abuse, which may be seen in the clinical examination.”

Got it? Now, think about this: NOWHERE IN THE DEFINITION IS THERE ANY DEFINING DIAGNOSTIC TEST.

No blood test, urine test, saliva test, brain scan, genetic assay. Nothing.

What you’ve just read is a collection of behaviors. This collection was assembled by a committee of psychiatrists, who decided that, taken together, they added up to a mental disorder.

There is no defining diagnostic test for NPD.

We’re talking about psychiatrists sitting in a room and arbitrarily deciding that a cluster of behaviors adds up to an official mental disorder.

These psychiatrists are playing word games. They’re inventing so-called mental disorders.

Underneath this story about Trump and the shrinks, there is a far more important t***h. Psychiatrists are world-class purveyors of f**e news. They always have been. Because you see…

None of the roughly 300 officially certified and labeled mental disorders has a defining diagnostic test. None.

If you have the tenacity, read through the whole psychiatric DSM bible and you will see for yourself.

Or read this brief exchange. In a PBS Frontline episode, “Does ADHD Exist?” Dr. Russell Barkley, an eminent professor of psychiatry and neurology at the University of Massachusetts Medical Center, spelled out the fraud clearly.

Here it is.

PBS FRONTLINE INTERVIEWER: Skeptics say that there’s no biological marker—that it [ADHD] is the one condition out there where there is no blood test, and that no one knows what causes it.

BARKLEY: That’s tremendously naïve, and it shows a great deal of illiteracy about science and about the mental health professions. A disorder doesn’t have to have a blood test to be valid. If that were the case, all mental disorders would be invalid…There is no lab test for any mental disorder right now in our science. That doesn’t make them invalid.

Oh, indeed, that does make them invalid. Utterly and completely. All 300 mental disorders. Because there are no defining tests of any kind to back up the diagnosis.

Psychiatrists can sway and tap dance all they like and they won’t escape the noose around their necks. We are looking at a science that isn’t a science.

That’s called fraud. Rank fraud.

Imagine this. You walk into a doctor’s office, you talk with him for a few minutes, and then he says: “You have cancer. You need to start chemo at once.”

After you recover, you say, “You didn’t give me a test.”

And he says, “Well, we don’t need a test. We know what the symptoms are because we convened a high-level meeting of oncologists last year, and we listed the answers to the questions I just asked you. You gave those telltale answers so we start chemo tomorrow. We may also need to surgically remove an organ or two before we’re done.”

That’s psychiatry. That’s the way it works.

Those boys have quite a con going. And now, from a few hundred miles away, they’ve diagnosed a sitting president.

Well, why wouldn’t they? They’ve been shucking and jiving all the way to the bank for the entirety of their professional lives.

Do you like Trump? Do you h**e him? Do you think he’s nuts? Sane? Wh**ever you believe, it has nothing to do with the official pronouncements of psychiatry.

Psychiatry has become an arm of technocracy—an attempt to organize society according to a list of so-called mental disorders parading as science.

Psychiatry is f**e science that can be used to discredit, minimize, accuse, deride, treat (with alarmingly toxic drugs), and eliminate any individual for any reason.

Now that is a good example of insanity. Of the criminal variety.
Jon Rappoport ~ January 11, 2018 br This originall... (show quote)




Once again, you liberals bring fraud to the table and misconstrue them as facts. What someone might say as an opinion on TV is meaningless. Trump just took a physical and passed with flying colors. Democrats couldn't find collusion, so, now they want to portray Trump as out of his mind. WON'T WORK! We conservatives suffered in silence for Obama's 8 years, now its time for the dems to shut up and let our fairly elected president do his thing, which is make America great again.

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Jan 14, 2018 16:18:53   #
moldyoldy
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Once again, you liberals bring fraud to the table and misconstrue them as facts. What someone might say as an opinion on TV is meaningless. Trump just took a physical and passed with flying colors. Democrats couldn't find collusion, so, now they want to portray Trump as out of his mind. WON'T WORK! We conservatives suffered in silence for Obama's 8 years, now its time for the dems to shut up and let our fairly elected president do his thing, which is make America great again.


Passed with flying colors according to trump. He also spelled the doctors name wrong on the paper that he says came drom the doctor. Typjcal trump.

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Jan 14, 2018 16:24:47   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
PeterS wrote:
I copied it off a post in this thread. If you had been paying attention to this thread you would have already read it at least a couple times. Whether they cited it, I don't know I really wasn't paying attention...


and you made no attempt to find whose words those were. Do think that once something is plagiarized it can't be don again? You surely aren't much of a lawyer, are you?

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Jan 14, 2018 16:29:18   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Morgan wrote:
I don't bother correcting one's grammatical errors because we all make them, it is petty and anal- retentive but in your case, I'll make an exception.

Trump has proved to be a loose cannon, is grammatically correct, Trump had proven to be a loose cannon is also correct, but you are being an anal critic. You've spelled the word experience incorrectly twice along with the word criticizing or criticizing but not critisizing.

As far as I can tell Trump had as much experience at being a president as emarine, except I believe emarine would be doing a much better job, he's not a lying lunatic.
I don't bother correcting one's grammatical errors... (show quote)


Can you find a way to apply your words to one of the lyingest Congressmen, Turban Durbin? Unless you live in Illinois and v**e for him every 6 years you won't try if you check into him and his multiple lies.

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Jan 14, 2018 17:13:29   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Passed with flying colors according to trump. He also spelled the doctors name wrong on the paper that he says came drom the doctor. Typjcal trump.

If you're going to mock someone for their spelling you should MAKE SURE that yours is IMPECCABLE!

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Jan 14, 2018 17:34:43   #
PeterS
 
oldroy wrote:
and you made no attempt to find whose words those were. Do think that once something is plagiarized it can't be don again? You surely aren't much of a lawyer, are you?

I plagiarized MW. I just assumed you had all read the thread starter. I should have know you cons would be too lazy too...

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Jan 14, 2018 17:49:36   #
moldyoldy
 
mwdegutis wrote:
If you're going to mock someone for their spelling you should MAKE SURE that yours is IMPECCABLE!


Not the spelling but rather the lie, or forgery.

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Jan 14, 2018 18:03:31   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Not the spelling but rather the lie, or forgery.

I don't know about you but being in "excellent health" might merit passing your exam with flying colors. And to your point, may I quote you Mr Deflecto..."He also spelled the doctors name wrong on the paper that he says came drom the doctor. Typjcal trump."

http://www.wdam.com/story/37250760/trump-goes-for-1st-medical-checkup-since-becoming-president

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