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Jan 11, 2018 18:31:15   #
Tgards79
 
Try it.
 
Jan 11, 2018 18:37:40   #
teabag09
 
If you haven't been to any of those Countries you wouldn't realize that he is exactly right. Probably could have worded it better but they are "Shit Holes". Mike
Jan 11, 2018 18:39:21   #
Weasel (a regular here)
 
teabag09 wrote:
If you haven't been to any of those Countries you wouldn't realize that he is exactly right. Probably could have worded it better but they are "Shit Holes". Mike


Jan 11, 2018 18:48:29   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
Should Trump have worded it like that? I believe not. He is correct however. Especially Haiti. I know I'll be disagreed with by my conservative friends but I just think a President shouldn't speak that way. Especially in this day and age. If LBJ would have had the leaks and social media we have today blacks would vote straight Republican. He was one of the most racist Presidents we ever had.
Tgards79 wrote:
Try it.
Jan 11, 2018 18:49:28   #
Tgards79
 
JFlorio wrote:
Should Trump have worded it like that? I believe not. He is correct however. Especially Haiti. I know I'll be disagreed with by my conservative friends but I just think a President shouldn't speak that way. Especially in this day and age. If LBJ would have had the leaks and social media we have today blacks would bvote straight Republican. He was one of the most racist Presidents we ever had.
Tell me exactly what you believe with respect to Haiti. Use the language you believe is appropriate.
Jan 11, 2018 18:55:19   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
Haiti has received billions in aid. Have lives improved exponentially? No. Some schools. Some medical facilities but eventually corruption and downright laziness, along with rampant sex and no personal responsibility out of the local population ruins any advances. Ask anyone froom the Dominican Republic what they think of their neighbors in Haiti.It's worse language than Trump used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Haiti

Many, many more examples.

Tgards79 wrote:
Tell me exactly what you believe with respect to Haiti. Use the language you believe is appropriate.
 
Jan 11, 2018 18:57:01   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Try it.


Im not gonna defend him @this time....I just think he is stressed out with everything thats going on, but he shouldnt of said that....
Jan 11, 2018 18:59:23   #
Tgards79
 
proud republican wrote:
Im not gonna defend him @this time....I just think he is stressed out with everything thats going on, but he shouldnt of said that....
OK, good, thanks. But you realize he has to hear from his supporters that this is unacceptable. Apparently the White House believes this plays well with his "base." When Democrats like me rant about Trump, he laughs. When conservatives like you begin to complain, he might clean up his act.
Jan 11, 2018 19:02:48   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
Tgards79 wrote:
OK, good, thanks. But you realize he has to hear from his supporters that this is unacceptable. Apparently the White House believes this plays well with his "base." When Democrats like me rant about Trump, he laughs. When conservatives like you begin to complain, he might clean up his act.


Unfortunately i dont work at the WH
Jan 11, 2018 19:03:06   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
Doubt it. Also, I believe he didn't expect this to be leaked, but then again I hope he's not that naive.
Tgards79 wrote:
OK, good, thanks. But you realize he has to hear from his supporters that this is unacceptable. Apparently the White House believes this plays well with his "base." When Democrats like me rant about Trump, he laughs. When conservatives like you begin to complain, he might clean up his act.
Jan 11, 2018 19:05:51   #
Tgards79
 
JFlorio wrote:
Haiti has received billions in aid. Have lives improved exponentially? No. Some schools. Some medical facilities but eventually corruption and downright laziness, along with rampant sex and no personal responsibility out of the local population ruins any advances. Ask anyone froom the Dominican Republic what they think of their neighbors in Haiti.It's worse language than Trump used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Haiti

Many, many more examples.
You think the basic thought -- that it is we should ban Haitians and Africans and accept Norwegians instead -- is correct?
 
Jan 11, 2018 19:07:09   #
Tgards79
 
proud republican wrote:
Unfortunately i dont work at the WH
You have Senators and a congressional rep. Call them.
Jan 11, 2018 19:08:03   #
Tgards79
 
JFlorio wrote:
Doubt it. Also, I believe he didn't expect this to be leaked, but then again I hope he's not that naive.
There were many, many people in the room. The White House is not denying it. He should know MUCH better. But does that matter? He said it.
Jan 11, 2018 19:19:14   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
Tgards79 wrote:
You think the basic thought -- that it is we should ban Haitians and Africans and accept Norwegians instead -- is correct?


He actually didn’t say that. If you want an honest exchange, be honest. You are spinning his words, which unfortunately he makes easy. I’m not as much for banning as I am for only taking in people we need and are able to be seriously vetted. If they want to be Americans not some ethnic group living off Americans and offer us a benefit besides the new go to word diversity than take em in no matter where they are from.
Jan 11, 2018 19:22:41   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
Tgards79 wrote:
There were many, many people in the room. The White House is not denying it. He should know MUCH better. But does that matter? He said it.


Honestly. I wish he hadn’t put it like that as President but he’s telling the truth in an uncouth way. Not enough for me to loose sleep over. Hell Oprah said old white people need to die. Was she talking about me? Was she being funny? Hell I don’t know but don’t hate her cause she said it.
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