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Dec 13, 2017 12:22:47   #
kcstargoat
 
bettyfisher411964 wrote:
hello, my name is Betty.
I have a strong belief in my country. I am bold and will question or comment on a post that I feel needs some feedback. I do support Trump mostly but i was not for him to be president but also was not receptive to having Clinton, I believe we got the best out of the 2. I do not have a lot of political knowledge but like I said if I see it and don't agree you will hear from me,


Hello Betty. I am the Stargoat. Glad you could join us. I am a Constitutional conservative and am in a political minority. I'll keep a weather eye out for your posts.

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Dec 13, 2017 17:07:19   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
bettyfisher411964 wrote:
hello, my name is Betty.
I have a strong belief in my country. I am bold and will question or comment on a post that I feel needs some feedback. I do support Trump mostly but i was not for him to be president but also was not receptive to having Clinton, I believe we got the best out of the 2. I do not have a lot of political knowledge but like I said if I see it and don't agree you will hear from me,


Welcome betty to opp hope you have fun with all of us.

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Dec 13, 2017 17:15:11   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
JimMe wrote:
And if you supply your sources it gives credence to your points...

Yes you must research
I really learned a lot from this mixed crew the most important be curious welcome to opp

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Dec 13, 2017 18:32:38   #
teabag09
 
Hi Betty and a Merry Christmas welcome. If you and Rolf will use the Quote Reply button when responding we will know who you are responding to. That makes it easier to understand your comments. Again, welcome aboard, buckle your seat belt and enjoy the ride. Mike
Loki wrote:
To whom are you referring?

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Dec 13, 2017 19:04:03   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Welcome to the Nightmare, "Alice Cooper". Hope you have thick skin and can let some things just roll off. Won't take you long to flush out the Trolls. There are good people here just looking for discussion and sometimes debate in a civil way.
bettyfisher411964 wrote:
hello, my name is Betty.
I have a strong belief in my country. I am bold and will question or comment on a post that I feel needs some feedback. I do support Trump mostly but i was not for him to be president but also was not receptive to having Clinton, I believe we got the best out of the 2. I do not have a lot of political knowledge but like I said if I see it and don't agree you will hear from me,

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Dec 14, 2017 06:59:52   #
grace scott
 
bettyfisher411964 wrote:
No problem Grace Scott, nice to meet you. So down to buisness. I said that I'm not smart when it comes to regulations and desitions done by the political parties. But still have an opinion. So to respond to your statement would the presidency be turned over,to pence?



Yep. Pence is would be. Sorry it took me so long to reply, but life happens--thank goodness.

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Dec 14, 2017 07:18:01   #
grace scott
 
Loki wrote:
Grace, you realize that Trump has done nothing to be impeached for? It doesn't matter how many signatures you put on a petition.



I don't know that, and neither do you. I hope not!

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Dec 14, 2017 08:30:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Loki wrote:
Grace, you realize that Trump has done nothing to be impeached for? It doesn't matter how many signatures you put on a petition.


Grace; check this out;


THE SWAMP

FBI AND DOJ: CESSPOOLS OF CORRUPTION

Thursday the new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Christopher Wray, predictably undercut the president who nominated him to take over for the previous two corrupt heads of the agency, Robert Mueller and James Comey, testifying before the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI described by The Donald as “in tatters” is not the “one that he knows.” While there are many fine and honest line special agents at the FBI – and I know this having worked with them as a U.S. Department of Justice prosecutor, in private practice and as the founder of both Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch over the last decades – Wray’s mantra, obviously rehearsed and repeated many times, was farcical in today’s real world.
Wray, whose child-like demeanor exhibits a lack of gravitas to project himself as the leader of the self-proclaimed best law enforcement agency on the planet, along with his c*********d colleagues at Justice, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his Obama-Clinton Deep State Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, act more like the three monkeys known as “See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Speak No Evil,” than the nation’s premier law enforcement officials. And with that characterization I am only being charitable. In reality, these legally bereft so-called law enforcement officials are more akin to the Three Stooges. The only difference is that these three cowardly halfwits are not funny.
In short, Wray, Sessions and Rosenstein are sitting atop a department riddled with Deep State Obama-Clinton political hacks who are hellbent on denying We the People our v**e, and instead on a mission to destroy the Trump presidency and everyone associated with him and his family. And, all the while that this legal jihad continues – spearheaded by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his conflicted ultra-l*****t and ethically challenged prosecutors – the Three Stooges simply sit around and watch this political massacre march on.
And what makes matters even worse and adds insult to legal injury is that the president’s own lawyers, Ty Cobb, John Dowd and Jay Seculow, spend more time telling our fearless leader that all is well in the Land of Oz, as the surrogates of the Wicked Witch of the Left, Hillary Clinton, our former Muslim in Chief, Barack Obama, and their Democratic Party and media hacks soldier on in their quest to take Trump down. It’s time for these Washington insiders, who obviously don’t want to risk their standing in the swamps of the nation’s capital, where overlapping interests for clients who need something from the Three Stooges prevail, to finally be fired, as they are worthless, to put it mildly, under the circumstances. I am tired of both hearing and seeing their visages on cable shows; it’s high time they actually do something to protect their client and our president, apart from using public relations notoriety to build their client list and ensure their induction into the “Swamp Creatures Hall of Fame.”
This past week, we learned of yet new horrors at Justice and the FBI. First, there was the revelation about a now discredited FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok who was at the helm of the c*********d Hillary Clinton email/server scandal as well as the prosecution of retired Gen. Michael Flynn. Strzok apparently was the special agent who conducted the sham interview of the Wicked Witch, not bothering to put her formally under oath or video her interview, much less take any notes of her lying act. Not coincidentally, Strzok, whose subterfuge and obstruction of justice was kept hidden from the public by the Three Stooges and their head stooge, Robert Mueller, for many months, spent much of his time texting thousands of messages to his mistress – classy guy – disparaging President Trump. For his felonious legal sins, typically, the Three Stooges simply t***sferred him to the Human Resources of the FBI, presumably where he can now play an instrumental role in hiring more political special agent l*****t hacks in his own image.
But as if this outrage is not enough, we also learned this week that another Obama-Clinton Deep State official, Bruce Ohr, was quietly moved out of his position as associate deputy attorney general to Obama-Clinton Deep State Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the former Obama U.S. attorney for the District of Maryland – that is, before AG Sessions had the bright idea of making him No. 2 at Justice. Ohr, however, able to keep his title and position as the director of Justice’s Organized Crime and Drug Task Force. The reason for Ohr’s demotion: It was revealed that he held clandestine meetings with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and discredited British spy Christopher Steele, whom the firm hired to pony up the phony Russian dossier smearing the president. This dossier was one of the trigger points for the illegal wiretaps of the Trump Tower by the FBI under Comey and later the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel......

Time is short, particularly since at present our president sorely lacks unc*********d, fearless legal representation to defend himself and the republic from destruction by those t*****rs within our midst at our Justice Department and its FBI.
http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/fbi-and-doj-cesspools-of-corruption/

BTW; This is all covered nightly on FOX Cable; Hannity, Lou Dobbs and others.
Is it covered anywhere else on the Boob Tube?

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Dec 14, 2017 13:05:20   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
archie bunker wrote:
Who ya talking to Ralph? Try using "quote reply" it helps.


Arch, you just showed me that I stopped reading anything from Rolfe by showing one of his nine that I had missed. Honestly, I thought I read all of any thread when on it and I finished with Rolfe really soon. Thanks.

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Dec 14, 2017 13:22:06   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Grace; check this out;


THE SWAMP

FBI AND DOJ: CESSPOOLS OF CORRUPTION

Thursday the new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Christopher Wray, predictably undercut the president who nominated him to take over for the previous two corrupt heads of the agency, Robert Mueller and James Comey, testifying before the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI described by The Donald as “in tatters” is not the “one that he knows.” While there are many fine and honest line special agents at the FBI – and I know this having worked with them as a U.S. Department of Justice prosecutor, in private practice and as the founder of both Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch over the last decades – Wray’s mantra, obviously rehearsed and repeated many times, was farcical in today’s real world.
Wray, whose child-like demeanor exhibits a lack of gravitas to project himself as the leader of the self-proclaimed best law enforcement agency on the planet, along with his c*********d colleagues at Justice, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his Obama-Clinton Deep State Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, act more like the three monkeys known as “See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Speak No Evil,” than the nation’s premier law enforcement officials. And with that characterization I am only being charitable. In reality, these legally bereft so-called law enforcement officials are more akin to the Three Stooges. The only difference is that these three cowardly halfwits are not funny.
In short, Wray, Sessions and Rosenstein are sitting atop a department riddled with Deep State Obama-Clinton political hacks who are hellbent on denying We the People our v**e, and instead on a mission to destroy the Trump presidency and everyone associated with him and his family. And, all the while that this legal jihad continues – spearheaded by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his conflicted ultra-l*****t and ethically challenged prosecutors – the Three Stooges simply sit around and watch this political massacre march on.
And what makes matters even worse and adds insult to legal injury is that the president’s own lawyers, Ty Cobb, John Dowd and Jay Seculow, spend more time telling our fearless leader that all is well in the Land of Oz, as the surrogates of the Wicked Witch of the Left, Hillary Clinton, our former Muslim in Chief, Barack Obama, and their Democratic Party and media hacks soldier on in their quest to take Trump down. It’s time for these Washington insiders, who obviously don’t want to risk their standing in the swamps of the nation’s capital, where overlapping interests for clients who need something from the Three Stooges prevail, to finally be fired, as they are worthless, to put it mildly, under the circumstances. I am tired of both hearing and seeing their visages on cable shows; it’s high time they actually do something to protect their client and our president, apart from using public relations notoriety to build their client list and ensure their induction into the “Swamp Creatures Hall of Fame.”
This past week, we learned of yet new horrors at Justice and the FBI. First, there was the revelation about a now discredited FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok who was at the helm of the c*********d Hillary Clinton email/server scandal as well as the prosecution of retired Gen. Michael Flynn. Strzok apparently was the special agent who conducted the sham interview of the Wicked Witch, not bothering to put her formally under oath or video her interview, much less take any notes of her lying act. Not coincidentally, Strzok, whose subterfuge and obstruction of justice was kept hidden from the public by the Three Stooges and their head stooge, Robert Mueller, for many months, spent much of his time texting thousands of messages to his mistress – classy guy – disparaging President Trump. For his felonious legal sins, typically, the Three Stooges simply t***sferred him to the Human Resources of the FBI, presumably where he can now play an instrumental role in hiring more political special agent l*****t hacks in his own image.
But as if this outrage is not enough, we also learned this week that another Obama-Clinton Deep State official, Bruce Ohr, was quietly moved out of his position as associate deputy attorney general to Obama-Clinton Deep State Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the former Obama U.S. attorney for the District of Maryland – that is, before AG Sessions had the bright idea of making him No. 2 at Justice. Ohr, however, able to keep his title and position as the director of Justice’s Organized Crime and Drug Task Force. The reason for Ohr’s demotion: It was revealed that he held clandestine meetings with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and discredited British spy Christopher Steele, whom the firm hired to pony up the phony Russian dossier smearing the president. This dossier was one of the trigger points for the illegal wiretaps of the Trump Tower by the FBI under Comey and later the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel......

Time is short, particularly since at present our president sorely lacks unc*********d, fearless legal representation to defend himself and the republic from destruction by those t*****rs within our midst at our Justice Department and its FBI.
http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/fbi-and-doj-cesspools-of-corruption/

BTW; This is all covered nightly on FOX Cable; Hannity, Lou Dobbs and others.
Is it covered anywhere else on the Boob Tube?
Grace; check this out; br br br THE SWAMP br br... (show quote)


I had some trouble reading much of what you said in the early parts of this post but must ask if you were really the founder of Judicial Watch, as your words seem to say. I have been supporting Judicial Watch for some time now and sure thought their main man was the founder. How about telling me what you meant at that point in your post? I may have to stop reading you if you really meant what those words said.

I didn't have any trouble with the rest of your post and sure as hell agree with you on all that.

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Dec 14, 2017 13:25:13   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
grace scott wrote:
I don't know that, and neither do you. I hope not!


Could you please let me on some of those things Trump has done that he can be impeached for? I don't know about any of them and until someone helps me see what he has done I will not be supporting his impeachment. I say this because I just don't lean far enough left to uphold that action.

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Dec 14, 2017 13:36:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Being Vice President; Pence is first in line to replace the President. Then Secretary of State.
The Left would go after Pence also.


I must mention that next in line, after Pence, is the Speaker of the House followed by the Cabinet members in the order their positions were created. That does say that the Secretary of State is just behind that Speaker. I have to also mention that the Speaker, Paul Ryan, is talking about retiring from the House in a couple of years. Of course, the name of his successor is probably McCarthy who I sure don't want to see there.

Now, let me say that I don't believe impeachment would be a good thing since those signing that thing would be mostly far left leaners, none of whom I can agree with.

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Dec 14, 2017 13:43:52   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rolfe kopelan wrote:
I don't need the intermediaries to form an opinion. Paying attention to what Trump says and does, clearly indicates his willful ignorance, and narcissism-"he knows more than then generals"He's his own best advisor because he has a good brain" And Roy Moore claiming homosexuals should be jailed and women should not have the right to v**e- tells me all I need to know about these two low lifes


Did you see any of Moore's women prove that he had been after them? The closest any of them came was the one with the "signed" year book and she even admitted that she had entered the year and location the book was signed. I know your alt left is the people who you listen to but they have no proof of what those women have been saying. I do wonder how much any of them were paid to wade in.

Do you know Herman Cain? I wanted him to run, as a black man, against the half and half Obama in 2012. A bevy of women waded in against Herman and without proof drove him out of the race. Now I sincerely believe that some, or all of them, were paid by the GOP establishment.

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Dec 14, 2017 13:45:35   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rolfe kopelan wrote:
Is that an example of how a "high class" white trash person responds?


Which of Arch's messages were you referring to? Damnit, use that tool so we know about these things.

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Dec 14, 2017 15:28:17   #
grace scott
 
oldroy wrote:
Could you please let me on some of those things Trump has done that he can be impeached for? I don't know about any of them and until someone helps me see what he has done I will not be supporting his impeachment. I say this because I just don't lean far enough left to uphold that action.



Read my reply again. "I don't know." It would have to be really bad before I could support impeachment.

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