One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Now we can have a real debate with the Trump supporters
Page <<first <prev 7 of 7
Dec 3, 2017 21:02:00   #
Airforceone
 
kankune wrote:
One question...why didn't you just stay on here as TD? Why did you feel the need to come back as this airforce character?


I was getting tired of the Turdnest BS so I gave them another insult. It’s like playing with children with some of these people.

Reply
Dec 3, 2017 22:52:21   #
Airforceone
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You have many opinions, but do not provide a source for any of them.

When you use all Capitol Letters, it equals shouting.

I am a business woman and I have to spend money to make money. In my opinion, giving breaks to Americans so they have more to use to elevate their standard of living is preferable to spending money on creating extra burdens on tax payers and escalating an ongoing war. I have read the entire plan and although I will still pay 39.6 percent in taxes I am in favor of a simplified plan where everyone pays at least some taxes. Currently, it is people like myself who pays for your tax credits. The Pew Center’s analysis of IRS data showed that in 2014, people with an adjusted gross income, or AGI, above $250,000 paid 51.6% of all individual income taxes, even though they accounted for only 2.7% of all returns filed. These “wealthy” individuals paid an average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) of 25.7%. By contrast, while people with adjusted gross incomes below $50,000 filed 62% of all individual returns in 2014, they paid only 5.7% of total taxes collected at an average tax rate of 4.3% per person. With the new tax plan, you will make a fair and reasonable contribution to the fiscal soundness of America.

In regards to health care, I believe that this is a personal responsibility and each person is responsible for acquiring, paying, and maintaining their own. This encourages people to develop or maintain responsible life styles that promote health. There is a caveat, our elderly must be afforded health care and Social Security for the elderly must not be stolen again, as obama did when he signed ACA. American citizens who are unable to temporarily afford care, then it should once again be the state's laws and health system which provides them adequate care. This encourages individuals to actively look for employment as well as fosters individual responsibility for healthy lifestyles. Most people, at some point in their lives need a hand up.... but, I do not believe that hand outs is fundamentally good for our nation.

I do not care what your opinion of our President may be. You had an opportunity to v**e, if you are not ineligible. I assume that you availed yourself of that responsibility. He was elected to the office, and even if you do not like him..the office of the President demands respect. He, as an American, is assured due process and that means he is presumed innocent until he is proven guilty. As yet, the mass media have not been empowered to pronounce a guilty or innocent decree. Indeed, it looks more and more as if k**lary may have, and still may be, working with Russia and thus far, there is zero evidence pointing to the President.

The next complaint you register against our president (which includes you, unless you are a citizen of another nation) is the accusations registered by some women. On another thread, I asked you how many of these women work(ed) for the DNC and where are they now? And in the end, even if he is the "scum of the earth" with his personal life, that does not imply that he can not be a good if not excellent president. Cases in point: Thomas Jefferson, Warren Hardening, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and impeached president for infidelity and sexual misconduct is William Clinton. These are the ones that are widely known to have had mistresses or paid playmates.

I hope that I addressed your pressing question, which I may add is unlike you who have yet to address mine.
You have many opinions, but do not provide a sourc... (show quote)


You’re not paying my tax credits I was in business for 30 years with 165 employees. I paid plenty in taxes so don’t use that statement against me I understand the tax code, I understand the medical insurance system, I understand workman’s comp which is a disgrace. I understand collective bargaining, I understand the rights of a working man. I lived it for 30 years and plain and simply this country needs those laws and regulation to protect the working man.

Accusations against a president where the hell have you been for the last 8 years. Just like the respect that was afforded Obama are you really that much out of touch. Where were you with Clinton did you show either of those two respect. I respect the office of the president I don’t have to respect that piece of garbage that is a pathological liar that molested women. What you don’t understand is I am from the northeast. I was in the construction industry I have first hand knowledge of what that piece of garbage did to people so don’t ask me to respect that freak. He’s garbage and always has been.

Zero evidence pointing to Trump what the hell planet are you from.

Again you people don’t read legislation, you didn’t read the ACA because of the statement you made it’s everybodies responsibility to maintain there own health Insurance and you are right. But what about my son who earns well over 6 figures and his health Insurance got cancelled because he has an incurable kidney disease. He could not get insurance at any cost he paid his medical bills with a lot of help from me it was costing an average of $46,000 a year so don’t hand me this sanctimonious garbage it’s everybody responsibility of course it is. Is medical insurance a right or a privilege. What about the poor who can't afford Health insurance.

Why do you think you’re so much better than anybody else.

I study and read legislation. I have read that ACA cover to cover it was my sons life and nobody would give him insurance. But he now has a great policy through the ACA and not only that was able to purchase a supplemental policy. And no government subsidies. I read Obama’s American Jobs Act and you being a small business women would have loved it because it was loaded with tax incentive based tax cuts for small business I read it and fully understood that there were pieces that did a lot for small business. But every tax break in it for small business and major corporations was incentive based. But it got blocked by the Republican held congress
Did you read the Obama comprehensive tax reform, incredible the tax relief the corporate elite would receive but it was incentive based.
Did you read the Obama comprehensive Immigration reform bill. Trump now is doing some of the things in that bill using his EO.

So please when 400 of the richest people in this country have more wealth than 61% of the people and that doen’t Include there tax havens. And you think it’s fiscal soundness.
Through reading you’re response I can tell you are a bright women no question about that. But you lack any common sense as to what that freak is doing. What is it do you think it’s cool to call yourself a Republican.

Reply
Dec 4, 2017 02:46:13   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sorry for your son's health issues. From what you wrote, you are in favor of everyone else picking up his medical costs and spare you the burden of his costs. And I understand that you are feeling guilty because the majority of kidney disease is hereditary. You seems to have a less than ideal life, for this too I am sorry for you. However, my pity for you and family does not change facts. I hope for his recovery.

As for the rest of your comment, you are voicing only your personal opinion and those opinions are not proven facts.

FYI, I do not think of myself as better than anyone and I will not play your game of being pressed into self defense.


Airforceone wrote:
You’re not paying my tax credits I was in business for 30 years with 165 employees. I paid plenty in taxes so don’t use that statement against me I understand the tax code, I understand the medical insurance system, I understand workman’s comp which is a disgrace. I understand collective bargaining, I understand the rights of a working man. I lived it for 30 years and plain and simply this country needs those laws and regulation to protect the working man.

Accusations against a president where the hell have you been for the last 8 years. Just like the respect that was afforded Obama are you really that much out of touch. Where were you with Clinton did you show either of those two respect. I respect the office of the president I don’t have to respect that piece of garbage that is a pathological liar that molested women. What you don’t understand is I am from the northeast. I was in the construction industry I have first hand knowledge of what that piece of garbage did to people so don’t ask me to respect that freak. He’s garbage and always has been.

Zero evidence pointing to Trump what the hell planet are you from.

Again you people don’t read legislation, you didn’t read the ACA because of the statement you made it’s everybodies responsibility to maintain there own health Insurance and you are right. But what about my son who earns well over 6 figures and his health Insurance got cancelled because he has an incurable kidney disease. He could not get insurance at any cost he paid his medical bills with a lot of help from me it was costing an average of $46,000 a year so don’t hand me this sanctimonious garbage it’s everybody responsibility of course it is. Is medical insurance a right or a privilege. What about the poor who can't afford Health insurance.

Why do you think you’re so much better than anybody else.

I study and read legislation. I have read that ACA cover to cover it was my sons life and nobody would give him insurance. But he now has a great policy through the ACA and not only that was able to purchase a supplemental policy. And no government subsidies. I read Obama’s American Jobs Act and you being a small business women would have loved it because it was loaded with tax incentive based tax cuts for small business I read it and fully understood that there were pieces that did a lot for small business. But every tax break in it for small business and major corporations was incentive based. But it got blocked by the Republican held congress
Did you read the Obama comprehensive tax reform, incredible the tax relief the corporate elite would receive but it was incentive based.
Did you read the Obama comprehensive Immigration reform bill. Trump now is doing some of the things in that bill using his EO.

So please when 400 of the richest people in this country have more wealth than 61% of the people and that doen’t Include there tax havens. And you think it’s fiscal soundness.
Through reading you’re response I can tell you are a bright women no question about that. But you lack any common sense as to what that freak is doing. What is it do you think it’s cool to call yourself a Republican.
You’re not paying my tax credits I was in business... (show quote)

Reply
 
 
Dec 4, 2017 08:27:35   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Airforceone wrote:
I did can’t find anything nothing nardo zilch all he’s doing is repealing ON EO and nothing has been put in place. Stop being a typical Trump supporter and answer the question. I have asked the same question to just about every Trump supporter on OPP what has he done I can’t find anything.
I found where he deregulated the EPA now coal users can dump there waste anywhere they want. I found where he repealed the Internet requirements now they can sell you’re personal information to anybody they want without you’re permission. I see he is repealing Net neutrality now the providers can send only what the want to certain people. I see he deregulated Wall Street so now they can sell toxic mortgages again. I guess the Bush 43 agenda works so well he is coping Bush.

I see he is on pace to sign more EO than any president in history. Something you Trump supporters screamed like hell that Obama was violating the constitution. Wow that’s hypocritical.

I see he is about to exceed what Obama spent in 8 years on his golf and vacations and Trump is going to exceed that in 1 year. Wow that’s hypocritical.

Actually his EO means nothing there political bluster. But I just wonder how many you read.
I did can’t find anything nothing nardo zilch all ... (show quote)

You pick and choose the worst out of everything TD..Cant you ever look on the upside of things for the good of the country? If that's all you could find on the good that Pesident Trump has done for this country, then apparently you DIDN'T look it up and I'm not going to do it for you!!!

Reply
Dec 4, 2017 11:12:19   #
bahmer
 
kankune wrote:
You pick and choose the worst out of everything TD..Cant you ever look on the upside of things for the good of the country? If that's all you could find on the good that Pesident Trump has done for this country, then apparently you DIDN'T look it up and I'm not going to do it for you!!!


You go girl both you and pennylynn are just smacking him up along the head. Go ahead and let him have it.

Reply
Dec 4, 2017 15:55:13   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
bahmer wrote:
You go girl both you and pennylynn are just smacking him up along the head. Go ahead and let him have it.


Thx Bahm. Ya know we can put some jokes on here, funny story, or funny pictures and the first thing he does (him and his ilk) is make some stupid snide remarks about our President or about Trump supporters. I'm just s**k of it. Sad to say I no longer have patience for them. And I'm sure not going to look up ANYTHING for them. They don't believe facts anyway. Airforce1 is tdernst. Why would you pay attention to someone that is pretending to be someone else. Pretty much their style tho. lol

Reply
Dec 4, 2017 16:00:53   #
bahmer
 
kankune wrote:
Thx Bahm. Ya know we can put some jokes on here, funny story, or funny pictures and the first thing he does (him and his ilk) is make some stupid snide remarks about our President or about Trump supporters. I'm just s**k of it. Sad to say I no longer have patience for them. And I'm sure not going to look up ANYTHING for them. They don't believe facts anyway. Airforce1 is tdernst. Why would you pay attention to someone that is pretending to be someone else. Pretty much their style tho. lol


I usually look at who the poster is and there are a number of them that I don't even read their messages any more. Like Djrich, moldyoldy, Kevyn and a number of others on here it is useless to even waste the time. I scan down the list and if I see a conservative responding I may try and figure out what they are responding about otherwise I don't even bother.

Reply
 
 
Dec 4, 2017 16:15:33   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
bahmer wrote:
I usually look at who the poster is and there are a number of them that I don't even read their messages any more. Like Djrich, moldyoldy, Kevyn and a number of others on here it is useless to even waste the time. I scan down the list and if I see a conservative responding I may try and figure out what they are responding about otherwise I don't even bother.


Most of them are certainly not worth our time, that's for sure..I can have a good conversation with Perm, but he's about the only one...

Reply
Dec 4, 2017 16:45:20   #
bahmer
 
kankune wrote:
Most of them are certainly not worth our time, that's for sure..I can have a good conversation with Perm, but he's about the only one...


There are times that he is OK.

Reply
Dec 5, 2017 22:36:35   #
Airforceone
 
kankune wrote:
Wow...well okay then..You really need.to sit down and have a drink or 5 and calm down. Get back to me.later...youve got waaaay to much whinin goin on....


Just look what he is doing now in Isreal all just to create more h**e from Muslims around the world. The guy is a moron and he listen to nobody.

Reply
Dec 5, 2017 22:50:38   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Airforceone wrote:
Just look what he is doing now in Isreal all just to create more h**e from Muslims around the world. The guy is a moron and he listen to nobody.


Quite frankly I don't give a rat's ass if it upsets muslims around the world especially the Palestinians..They can just get over it. You know the ones that pay Isis to assasinate Israelis.....

Reply
 
 
Dec 5, 2017 23:38:14   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Airforceone wrote:
Believe me I am not shouting at anybody I take the time to read legislation proposed by the Conservative party then I listen to what you are being told and it’s a lie. Tell me you are for the first Trump Budget that adds $485 billion to the deficit, then write a tax cut bill that adds another $1.5 trillion to the deficit and then Trump tells you its a middle class tax cut. Read the tax plan, read his budget, read his healthcare plan it’s not even close to what there telling you. Donald Trump lies continuously and Trump supporters except his lies and misinformation.

The reason for my low opinion of Trump is because I have known that d********g piece of garbage for years. I know what he has done to contractors, vendors, and employees. He is all about power and wealth he could care less about this country.

What is the conservative agenda, the reason I get disgusted with Trump supporters because you absolutely refuse to read legislation. You believe everything that comes out of that pathological liars mouth.

So tell me what Trumps agenda actually is and what programs you want to dump that MAGA.

He hit his all time low yesterday when he supported a Pedaphile and a r****t for Senator. I mean we are talking about the party of family values. You elected a serial sex molester and just because he denies it you believe him. Well common sense should kick in he molested those women it was not a democratic s**m. If you grew up in the NY, Connecticut, NJ, and Mass. area you would know he treats women like garbage.

I could go on and on about that man, his bankruptcies, his divorces, his womanizing, his refusals to pay his contractors, pathological lies, the number of law suite brought against this piece of garbage. But Trump supporters ignore it all and just listen to what he says, and totally ignore what he has done over the course of his life. There’s a reason why Donald Trump lost by over 7 million v**es in the northeast. It’s becsuse these people know him you don’t.
Believe me I am not shouting at anybody I take the... (show quote)


Whew AF1, you are certainly a one trick pony. You ask some of the most ridiculous questions, which are soundly refuted, yet you continue to spout your nonsense. Calling Judge Roy Moore a child molester is in itself absurd. Nothing has been proven and he has been convicted of nothing, yet you libs continue to spout that ignorant lie! What really gets me is you libs sniveling and whining about the debt that will be incurred with President Trump's tax cut, yet you were strangely silent when the halfrican doubled it in 8 years. The hypocrisy coming from you democrats stinks to high heaven. BTW, Did you serve in the USAF?

Reply
Page <<first <prev 7 of 7
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.