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Feb 15, 2014 22:07:12   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Yep, they surely are but we have some people here who really believe that these stories are made up by those far right folks who would like to discuss Obama's rules of engagement and how many lives are being lost to them. This soldier just took his discharge to keep from getting k**led so his babies wouldn't have a father anymore.


http://libertyalliance.com/2014/02/us-troops-fed-insane-rules-engagement/

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Feb 16, 2014 00:47:47   #
Brian Devon
 
This soldier just took his discharge to keep from getting k**led so his babies wouldn't have a father anymore.




I applaud any of these soldiers who would take a discharge so their children won't be fatherless (or motherless). During the height of the Vietnam war, there used to be a bumper sticker that said, "SUPPOSE THEY GAVE A WAR AND NO ONE CAME!" Good for these vets who don't want to waste their lives. More power to them!

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Feb 16, 2014 01:06:27   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Brian Devon wrote:
This soldier just took his discharge to keep from getting k**led so his babies wouldn't have a father anymore.




I applaud any of these soldiers who would take a discharge so their children won't be fatherless (or motherless). During the height of the Vietnam war, there used to be a bumper sticker that said, "SUPPOSE THEY GAVE A WAR AND NO ONE CAME!" Good for these vets who don't want to waste their lives. More power to them!

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This soldier just took his discharge to keep from ... (show quote)


Another of your outstanding jobs of trying to deflect. What kind of grades did you make at the Alinsky School of Socialism?

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Feb 16, 2014 01:13:52   #
Brian Devon
 
oldroy wrote:
Another of your outstanding jobs of trying to deflect. What kind of grades did you make at the Alinsky School of Socialism?



Its only far right wing-nuts that are obsessed with Saul Alinsky. I have never heard any Democrat even mention the name.

More wingnut sore loser rantings. Some folks just can't show any class in defeat. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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Feb 16, 2014 02:38:25   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
oldroy wrote:
Yep, they surely are but we have some people here who really believe that these stories are made up by those far right folks who would like to discuss Obama's rules of engagement and how many lives are being lost to them. This soldier just took his discharge to keep from getting k**led so his babies wouldn't have a father anymore.


http://libertyalliance.com/2014/02/us-troops-fed-insane-rules-engagement/


As far as I can tell, one person does not have the right, authority or knowledge, to speak for the entire armed forces. Extrapolating such a thing would be equivalent to claiming all criminal defendants were innocent because one defendant claimed such.

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Feb 16, 2014 07:43:09   #
Thunder
 
New rules of engagement . We NO longer do PRISONERS---- BANG

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Feb 16, 2014 07:55:29   #
taz
 
Obama doesn't trust the peoples army. What does that tell us?
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/02/11/obama-disarmed-marines-for-inaguration-parade-n1509511

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Feb 16, 2014 09:20:16   #
3jack
 


The exclusion of live ammunition and loaded military weapons has been the custom for all past inaugaral events. Try something else, that is unique, to pin on this President. This one fails the smell test.

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Feb 16, 2014 09:33:21   #
taz
 
3jack wrote:
The exclusion of live ammunition and loaded military weapons has been the custom for all past inaugaral events. Try something else, that is unique, to pin on this President. This one fails the smell test.


Link.

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Feb 16, 2014 09:53:10   #
3jack
 
taz wrote:
Link.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/25/disarmed-marines-at-inauguration-debunked/

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Feb 16, 2014 10:12:05   #
taz
 
3jack wrote:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/25/disarmed-marines-at-inauguration-debunked/


This is based on a statement from the secret service and not the military or local law enforcement. You do know that right?

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Feb 16, 2014 10:35:21   #
3jack
 
taz wrote:
This is based on a statement from the secret service and not the military or local law enforcement. You do know that right?


The Secret Service is responsible for the security of the President...not the military. What you posted was not true. The President has no say in how he is to be protected.

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Feb 16, 2014 10:57:05   #
Viet Nam Vet 67-68
 
Brian you are a typical left wing wacko that has zero brain function and cannot have a thought that hasn't been told to you to say from the New DemoRAT Marxist Party. Sal Alinsky is their Bible of Marxist agenda and if you had a Brain you could follow every step that Obamination the ILLEGAL HALF BREED MARXIST SUNNI MUSLIM HAS TAKEN SINCE HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE. He is following in the footsteps of Mao, Lenin, Stalin Marx and Sal with a little of Hitler thrown in with Brown Shirts and SS.

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Feb 16, 2014 11:07:36   #
taz
 
Viet Nam Vet 67-68 wrote:
Brian you are a typical left wing wacko that has zero brain function and cannot have a thought that hasn't been told to you to say from the New DemoRAT Marxist Party. Sal Alinsky is their Bible of Marxist agenda and if you had a Brain you could follow every step that Obamination the ILLEGAL HALF BREED MARXIST SUNNI MUSLIM HAS TAKEN SINCE HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE. He is following in the footsteps of Mao, Lenin, Stalin Marx and Sal with a little of Hitler thrown in with Brown Shirts and SS.


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Feb 16, 2014 11:14:24   #
taz
 
Viet Nam Vet 67-68 wrote:
Brian you are a typical left wing wacko that has zero brain function and cannot have a thought that hasn't been told to you to say from the New DemoRAT Marxist Party. Sal Alinsky is their Bible of Marxist agenda and if you had a Brain you could follow every step that Obamination the ILLEGAL HALF BREED MARXIST SUNNI MUSLIM HAS TAKEN SINCE HIS FIRST DAY IN OFFICE. He is following in the footsteps of Mao, Lenin, Stalin Marx and Sal with a little of Hitler thrown in with Brown Shirts and SS.


There are 11 sections that this man clearly uses the C*******t Manifesto to show how Obama is following the game plan to a tee.
"President Obama (and his czars):





1. C*******t agenda


run the debt up to undermine the soundness of the money/capital supply (the fastest way to destroy an advanced capitalist country).





Obama's actions


1) growing national debt by more than one trillion dollars a year;


2) not balking at the federal reserve's borrowing 43 cents of every United States dollar spent by the federal government from China and other foreign countries, resulting in more and more tax dollars or percentage of gross domestic product leaving the USA to pay for the growing interest on the loans;


3) presented a Budget of the United States Government for 2012 with increased spending based on a projected increase in individual income taxes from 956 billion dollars in 2011 to 1,145 billion dollars in 2012 and corporation income taxes from 198 billion dollars in 2011 to 327 billion dollars in 2012, numbers so unrealistic that not even a Democrat in congress would v**e for it in February 2011 (from page 174 of www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy12/pdf/BUDGET-2012-BUD.pdf);


4) preventing all efforts of the USA to become energy independent and stop the one way movement of United States money to fickle countries with oil when he: visited Brazil in April 2011 and encouraged them to drill offshore, assuring them that the USA "will be their best customer" while ordering federal agencies to effectively stop offshore drilling with red tape; delayed decision on construction of the Keystone XL Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline project until after the November 2012 e******n, in spite of the warning that Canada would turn to Asia to sell oil rather than wait on the pipeline (November 2011);


5) in summer 2011 and against the will of congress (that is the Republican majority in the U.S. House of Representatives) enacted "cap and trade" through federal orders which will result in higher utility rates and threatens continued coal mining in the USA.





Explanatory/supportive text


from Section 1, C*******t Manifesto:


The essential condition for the existence, and for the sway of the bourgeois class, is the formation and augmentation of capital.








2. C*******t agenda


encourage unhappiness with and disapproval of the existing world order.





Obama's actions


1) did not condemn the president of Honduras for agitating for an unconstitutional 2nd term in 2009;


2) supported the allocation of $10 million in the 2009 American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (also known as [AKA] Stimulus Bill) to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives for the ATF Project Gunrunner (AKA "Operation Fast and Furious") the plan for guns to Mexican drug lords (see wnd.com/?pageId=320221);


3) ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" for Palestinian refugees and "conflict victims" in Gaza with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States (see thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488);


4) was hesitant to take sides on the revolution in Egypt (February 2011) or condemn the murder of anti government civilians in Iran (2009) and Libya (2011);


5) entered the conflict in Libya (March 2011) without consulting congress or seeking congressional approval (thehill.com/homenews/house/151959-freshman-republican-obamas-timing-on-libya-intentional);


6) signaled in his "Arab Speech" of May 19, 2011 that America is no longer Israel's guardian by stating that Israel's borders with a new Palestinian State would be the artificial and indefensible borders drawn by the United Nations in 1947 rather than the current ones in existence since Israel's defensive 1967 Six Day War (see http://www.onejerusalem.org/2011/05/obama-sides-with-arab-world-ag.php);


7) June 2011 decided to formally resume contact with Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, which does not recognize Israel, supports terror, and spreads hatred of the U.S. and Israel;


8) gave tacit approval to the organizers of Occupy Wall Street (started September 17, 2011) to continue their protests and interference with businesses throughout America;


9) sent a letter to Congress Fri. Oct. 14, 2011 informing them that he had sent U.S. troops to Uganda (who arrived Oct. 12) and will send others to South Sudan, the Central African Republic and the Democratic Republic of the Congo to put down years-long insurgencies, going against the traditional reluctance of the U.S. to intervene.





Explanatory/supportive text


from Section 1 of the C*******t Manifesto:


All previous historical movements were movements of minorities, or in the interests of minorities. The proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the interests of the immense majority. The proletariat, the lowest stratum of our present society, cannot stir, cannot raise itself up, without the whole superincumbent strata of official society being sprung into the air.





Though not in substance, yet in form, the struggle of the proletariat with the bourgeoisie is at first a national struggle. The proletariat of each country must, of course, first of all settle matters with its own bourgeoisie.





In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent o*******w of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat.





from Section 4 of the C*******t Manifesto:


In short, the C*******ts everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.








3. C*******t agenda


destroy the credibility of capitalists within the USA and around the world to decrease resistance to the new world order.





Obama's actions


1) apologized worldwide for the United States;


2) demonized Tea Party members (once known as the "Silent Majority" or middle class) for unifying to protest the government's failure to follow the Constitution and stop the freefall in our economy with free market solutions;


3) does not act or follow through usually on his capitalist-like words from the TelePrompTer.





Explanatory/supportive text


from Section 1 of the C*******t Manifesto:


Modern industry has established the world-market, for which the discovery of America paved the way. . . .





has set up that single, unconscionable freedom -- Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation. . . .





The proletarian is without property; his relation to his wife and children has no longer anything in common with the bourgeois family-relations; modern industrial labour, modern subjection to capital, the same in England as in France, in America as in Germany, has stripped him of every trace of national character. Law, morality, religion, are to him so many bourgeois prejudices, behind which lurk in ambush just as many bourgeois interests.





from Section 2 of the C*******t Manifesto:


There are, besides, eternal t***hs, such as Freedom, Justice, etc. that are common to all states of society. But C*******m abolishes eternal t***hs, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience..................."
http://www.dianevann.com/OBAMA.html

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