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Feb 10, 2014 18:14:23   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Your 5 year old failed a standardized test. Therefore, he is stupid, insane, and doomed to a life of failure.
Posted on February 10, 2014 by The Matt Walsh Blog



I’m going to grab you by the hand and d**g you into hell. I am going to immerse you in a nightmare so hideous and horrifying that it will leave you stunned and gasping for breath.

Are you ready?

Alright, imagine a terrifying world where 4 and 5 year old children are allowed to play, explore, and dream. Imagine a dystopia where young kids roll in the grass and get mud on their pants. Imagine what would happen if small children weren’t constantly being measured or analyzed. Imagine an utter and complete absence of overarching ”academic standards” for kids that are barely older than toddlers. Imagine the torment of a country that does not provide government facilities to which its citizens can send their tots for curriculum-based instruction. Imagine a netherworld where innocent little kids aren’t tested, or scored, or compared to the “performance” of other kids all over the globe. Imagine — just imagine — a purgatory where your 4 year old develops on his own time, and isn’t hurried along so that he might meet broad “milestones” and “performance standards.”

Can you imagine this? Can you imagine a reality where our youngest sons and daughters don’t emerge from the womb only to be immediately placed in an even more restrictive and confining box — a box which will imprison them for the next 13 or 14 years of their lives?

Scary, isn’t it?

Twist ending: this is the world in which everyone lived, up until very recently.

Somehow, for thousands of years, kids learned and grew and matured, and they did so without modern public schools. The Ancient Greeks produced some of the most brilliant minds in human history, and with nary a pre-K or a “this is what your kid should be doing at this age” parenting book. Against all odds, the great civilizations of the past — whether Roman, or Byzantine, or Ottoman, or Persian — all managed to contribute immensely to the progress of man, without the help of Common Core or standardized tests.

How did they do it?

There must have been some sort of ancient sorcery at work.

How else can it be explained?

I can certainly tell you that I wept when I read this recent op-ed in an Oregon newspaper. A couple of concerned bureaucrats report the “sobering” epidemic of kindergartners underperforming on standardized tests. Apparently, what these youngsters need is for government schools to be more “coordinated” and aggressive in seeing to it that they reach the arbitrary academic milestones imposed upon them by the Department of Education.

But this tragic story is not confined to Oregon alone. Other states are in the midst of a similar crisis.

Indeed, across the country millions of children, kindergartners and older, are “falling behind” and failing to learn at the exact rate and pace required by the government.

It isn’t just that these individual children are doomed — though they certainly are — it’s that we will are all facing the apocalypse if our kids don’t learn to “test better.”

Remember, it isn’t good enough that your child learn to read, or add, or write — she must do it NOW. If not now, then when? Next year? For God’s sake, are you mad? BY THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE. Think of her college application!

Quick! Suck the fun out of her existence, eradicate her enthusiasm for learning, tie her to a chair and force her to fill out multiple choice questions! She must meet the standards so that her school gets more federal fundi— I mean, so that she will grow up to be a successful and well adjusted person.

Let me explain something about human beings: we are all exactly the same. Our minds are programmable computers, assembled in factories and implanted into our heads. Our children, therefore, can be expected to do everything the same way; learn the same way, act the same way, grow the same way, develop the way. If they don’t, then this is evidence of a systems-malfunction. No worries: stuff him full of drugs until he sufficiently measures up to the universal, preconceived notions of how he is supposed to think and behave.

Some foolish Neanderthals, like this woman at the Washington Post, question the wisdom of testing kindergartners and holding them to State-prescribed “standards.” But these people are anti-education extremists. They wish to return us to the Dark Ages — before government kindergarten and pre-k — back when children, deprived of the guiding light of standardized education, quickly descended into psychosis and cannibalism.

Fear not. These anarchists are fighting a losing battle. These are the unhinged types who conceive children and then don’t even have the foresight to run to Barnes and Noble and purchase a bunch of parenting books instructing them on when their baby “should” crawl, or walk, or eat solid foods.

The barbarians.

They may wish to retain an ounce of freedom and creativity in their own chaotic households, but out here, in civilized society, we are moving past them. In fact, President Obama gave his State of the Union Address last week and once again reiterated his call for “Universal Pre-K.”

Yes, Mr. President. We must get the children away from their parents as soon as possible. And it is not enough for pre-k to be universal — it must be mandatory. But why stop there? I call for mandatory universal pre-pre K, which will be the next step after pre-pre-pre K, which would come right after a baby graduates from mandatory universal nursery instruction. If our children are to compete with the Chinese (surely, “competing” with Asian kids thousand of miles away must be the innate desire of all young Americans ) then we should stop wasting time. I say, let’s administer the first standardized test within 5 minutes of birth. That is, until the Russians give standardized tests to one-minute-olds.

Hurry! No time to waste! If your sons and daughters are to be obedient and useful cogs in the Assembly Line of Modern Society, we have to begin molding them for our purposes as soon as (or even before) they take their first breath.

Maybe, if we keep at it, if we work hard enough, we can create a country where children are no longer troubled with the stresses of being creative and imaginative; where they don’t engage in silly things like art, and sports, and music; where they have no sense of wonderment, or humor, or curiosity; where they can all simply sit still and regurgitate pieces of information onto sheets of paper.

A world where, essentially, that loathsome and inconvenient institution called “childhood” no longer exists in any discernible fashion.

Call me a dreamer if you like.

I suppose I am.

And that’s only because I didn’t spend enough time taking standardized tests in kindergarten.

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Feb 10, 2014 18:29:08   #
bahmer
 
AuntiE wrote:
Your 5 year old failed a standardized test. Therefore, he is stupid, insane, and doomed to a life of failure.
Posted on February 10, 2014 by The Matt Walsh Blog



I’m going to grab you by the hand and d**g you into hell. I am going to immerse you in a nightmare so hideous and horrifying that it will leave you stunned and gasping for breath.

Are you ready?

Alright, imagine a terrifying world where 4 and 5 year old children are allowed to play, explore, and dream. Imagine a dystopia where young kids roll in the grass and get mud on their pants. Imagine what would happen if small children weren’t constantly being measured or analyzed. Imagine an utter and complete absence of overarching ”academic standards” for kids that are barely older than toddlers. Imagine the torment of a country that does not provide government facilities to which its citizens can send their tots for curriculum-based instruction. Imagine a netherworld where innocent little kids aren’t tested, or scored, or compared to the “performance” of other kids all over the globe. Imagine — just imagine — a purgatory where your 4 year old develops on his own time, and isn’t hurried along so that he might meet broad “milestones” and “performance standards.”

Can you imagine this? Can you imagine a reality where our youngest sons and daughters don’t emerge from the womb only to be immediately placed in an even more restrictive and confining box — a box which will imprison them for the next 13 or 14 years of their lives?

Scary, isn’t it?

Twist ending: this is the world in which everyone lived, up until very recently.

Somehow, for thousands of years, kids learned and grew and matured, and they did so without modern public schools. The Ancient Greeks produced some of the most brilliant minds in human history, and with nary a pre-K or a “this is what your kid should be doing at this age” parenting book. Against all odds, the great civilizations of the past — whether Roman, or Byzantine, or Ottoman, or Persian — all managed to contribute immensely to the progress of man, without the help of Common Core or standardized tests.

How did they do it?

There must have been some sort of ancient sorcery at work.

How else can it be explained?

I can certainly tell you that I wept when I read this recent op-ed in an Oregon newspaper. A couple of concerned bureaucrats report the “sobering” epidemic of kindergartners underperforming on standardized tests. Apparently, what these youngsters need is for government schools to be more “coordinated” and aggressive in seeing to it that they reach the arbitrary academic milestones imposed upon them by the Department of Education.

But this tragic story is not confined to Oregon alone. Other states are in the midst of a similar crisis.

Indeed, across the country millions of children, kindergartners and older, are “falling behind” and failing to learn at the exact rate and pace required by the government.

It isn’t just that these individual children are doomed — though they certainly are — it’s that we will are all facing the apocalypse if our kids don’t learn to “test better.”

Remember, it isn’t good enough that your child learn to read, or add, or write — she must do it NOW. If not now, then when? Next year? For God’s sake, are you mad? BY THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE. Think of her college application!

Quick! Suck the fun out of her existence, eradicate her enthusiasm for learning, tie her to a chair and force her to fill out multiple choice questions! She must meet the standards so that her school gets more federal fundi— I mean, so that she will grow up to be a successful and well adjusted person.

Let me explain something about human beings: we are all exactly the same. Our minds are programmable computers, assembled in factories and implanted into our heads. Our children, therefore, can be expected to do everything the same way; learn the same way, act the same way, grow the same way, develop the way. If they don’t, then this is evidence of a systems-malfunction. No worries: stuff him full of drugs until he sufficiently measures up to the universal, preconceived notions of how he is supposed to think and behave.

Some foolish Neanderthals, like this woman at the Washington Post, question the wisdom of testing kindergartners and holding them to State-prescribed “standards.” But these people are anti-education extremists. They wish to return us to the Dark Ages — before government kindergarten and pre-k — back when children, deprived of the guiding light of standardized education, quickly descended into psychosis and cannibalism.

Fear not. These anarchists are fighting a losing battle. These are the unhinged types who conceive children and then don’t even have the foresight to run to Barnes and Noble and purchase a bunch of parenting books instructing them on when their baby “should” crawl, or walk, or eat solid foods.

The barbarians.

They may wish to retain an ounce of freedom and creativity in their own chaotic households, but out here, in civilized society, we are moving past them. In fact, President Obama gave his State of the Union Address last week and once again reiterated his call for “Universal Pre-K.”

Yes, Mr. President. We must get the children away from their parents as soon as possible. And it is not enough for pre-k to be universal — it must be mandatory. But why stop there? I call for mandatory universal pre-pre K, which will be the next step after pre-pre-pre K, which would come right after a baby graduates from mandatory universal nursery instruction. If our children are to compete with the Chinese (surely, “competing” with Asian kids thousand of miles away must be the innate desire of all young Americans ) then we should stop wasting time. I say, let’s administer the first standardized test within 5 minutes of birth. That is, until the Russians give standardized tests to one-minute-olds.

Hurry! No time to waste! If your sons and daughters are to be obedient and useful cogs in the Assembly Line of Modern Society, we have to begin molding them for our purposes as soon as (or even before) they take their first breath.

Maybe, if we keep at it, if we work hard enough, we can create a country where children are no longer troubled with the stresses of being creative and imaginative; where they don’t engage in silly things like art, and sports, and music; where they have no sense of wonderment, or humor, or curiosity; where they can all simply sit still and regurgitate pieces of information onto sheets of paper.

A world where, essentially, that loathsome and inconvenient institution called “childhood” no longer exists in any discernible fashion.

Call me a dreamer if you like.

I suppose I am.

And that’s only because I didn’t spend enough time taking standardized tests in kindergarten.
Your 5 year old failed a standardized test. Theref... (show quote)


As always AuntiE an excellent piece. I wish all of the children could go and experience the wonders of this world as they always have and were able to just be kids. It was fun for us and we turned out alright buy the standards of some of the old timers but not the modern progressive. Life was always more than tests and when we were young the good guys always one and beat the bad guys. I wish our kids could all go there and dream.

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Feb 10, 2014 18:49:28   #
FEDUP
 
bahmer wrote:
As always AuntiE an excellent piece. I wish all of the children could go and experience the wonders of this world as they always have and were able to just be kids. It was fun for us and we turned out alright buy the standards of some of the old timers but not the modern progressive. Life was always more than tests and when we were young the good guys always one and beat the bad guys. I wish our kids could all go there and dream.


No, we were not raised in the modern progressive ( c*******t ) way. I would like to think that our parents would not allow it. If the statists in DC have their way with this common core crap all our kids will think just like all good c*******ts do.

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Feb 10, 2014 19:59:34   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
bahmer wrote:
As always AuntiE an excellent piece. I wish all of the children could go and experience the wonders of this world as they always have and were able to just be kids. It was fun for us and we turned out alright buy the standards of some of the old timers but not the modern progressive. Life was always more than tests and when we were young the good guys always one and beat the bad guys. I wish our kids could all go there and dream.


So do I: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
The way we treat our very young and our very old has become disgraceful.

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Feb 10, 2014 21:15:30   #
Ricktloml
 
Unclet wrote:
So do I: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
The way we treat our very young and our very old has become disgraceful.


It's not just the young and old, it's the utter contempt for anyone with the ability to think in a critical manner, and the sad evidence of plenty of people willing to just give up their liberties and accept serfdom

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Feb 11, 2014 00:04:59   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
bahmer wrote:
As always AuntiE an excellent piece. I wish all of the children could go and experience the wonders of this world as they always have and were able to just be kids. It was fun for us and we turned out alright buy the standards of some of the old timers but not the modern progressive. Life was always more than tests and when we were young the good guys always one and beat the bad guys. I wish our kids could all go there and dream.


Now where would we put all the new Psychologists, Social workers, Early childhood development PhD's, and other "experts", to work? You don't have to be a parent to be a child rearing expert, you just need a PhD. You don't have to have many years experience teaching, to become an administrator, you just need a PhD.

Once you get your PhD, you can then teach teachers everything you know about teaching, which you learned in a book and from some other PhD who learned everything THEY know, from a book and some other PhD, who learned everything THEY know from a .....

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Feb 11, 2014 00:58:42   #
Ricktloml
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Now where would we put all the new Psychologists, Social workers, Early childhood development PhD's, and other "experts", to work? You don't have to be a parent to be a child rearing expert, you just need a PhD. You don't have to have many years experience teaching, to become an administrator, you just need a PhD.

Once you get your PhD, you can then teach teachers everything you know about teaching, which you learned in a book and from some other PhD who learned everything THEY know, from a book and some other PhD, who learned everything THEY know from a .....
Now where would we put all the new Psychologists, ... (show quote)


BS we all know what that means, MS more of the same, PhD pile it higher and deeper

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Feb 11, 2014 12:11:17   #
67p5065
 
AuntiE wrote:
Your 5 year old failed a standardized test. Therefore, he is stupid, insane, and doomed to a life of failure.
Posted on February 10, 2014 by The Matt Walsh Blog



I’m going to grab you by the hand and d**g you into hell. I am going to immerse you in a nightmare so hideous and horrifying that it will leave you stunned and gasping for breath.

Are you ready?

Alright, imagine a terrifying world where 4 and 5 year old children are allowed to play, explore, and dream. Imagine a dystopia where young kids roll in the grass and get mud on their pants. Imagine what would happen if small children weren’t constantly being measured or analyzed. Imagine an utter and complete absence of overarching ”academic standards” for kids that are barely older than toddlers. Imagine the torment of a country that does not provide government facilities to which its citizens can send their tots for curriculum-based instruction. Imagine a netherworld where innocent little kids aren’t tested, or scored, or compared to the “performance” of other kids all over the globe. Imagine — just imagine — a purgatory where your 4 year old develops on his own time, and isn’t hurried along so that he might meet broad “milestones” and “performance standards.”

Can you imagine this? Can you imagine a reality where our youngest sons and daughters don’t emerge from the womb only to be immediately placed in an even more restrictive and confining box — a box which will imprison them for the next 13 or 14 years of their lives?

Scary, isn’t it?

Twist ending: this is the world in which everyone lived, up until very recently.

Somehow, for thousands of years, kids learned and grew and matured, and they did so without modern public schools. The Ancient Greeks produced some of the most brilliant minds in human history, and with nary a pre-K or a “this is what your kid should be doing at this age” parenting book. Against all odds, the great civilizations of the past — whether Roman, or Byzantine, or Ottoman, or Persian — all managed to contribute immensely to the progress of man, without the help of Common Core or standardized tests.

How did they do it?

There must have been some sort of ancient sorcery at work.

How else can it be explained?

I can certainly tell you that I wept when I read this recent op-ed in an Oregon newspaper. A couple of concerned bureaucrats report the “sobering” epidemic of kindergartners underperforming on standardized tests. Apparently, what these youngsters need is for government schools to be more “coordinated” and aggressive in seeing to it that they reach the arbitrary academic milestones imposed upon them by the Department of Education.

But this tragic story is not confined to Oregon alone. Other states are in the midst of a similar crisis.

Indeed, across the country millions of children, kindergartners and older, are “falling behind” and failing to learn at the exact rate and pace required by the government.

It isn’t just that these individual children are doomed — though they certainly are — it’s that we will are all facing the apocalypse if our kids don’t learn to “test better.”

Remember, it isn’t good enough that your child learn to read, or add, or write — she must do it NOW. If not now, then when? Next year? For God’s sake, are you mad? BY THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE. Think of her college application!

Quick! Suck the fun out of her existence, eradicate her enthusiasm for learning, tie her to a chair and force her to fill out multiple choice questions! She must meet the standards so that her school gets more federal fundi— I mean, so that she will grow up to be a successful and well adjusted person.

Let me explain something about human beings: we are all exactly the same. Our minds are programmable computers, assembled in factories and implanted into our heads. Our children, therefore, can be expected to do everything the same way; learn the same way, act the same way, grow the same way, develop the way. If they don’t, then this is evidence of a systems-malfunction. No worries: stuff him full of drugs until he sufficiently measures up to the universal, preconceived notions of how he is supposed to think and behave.

Some foolish Neanderthals, like this woman at the Washington Post, question the wisdom of testing kindergartners and holding them to State-prescribed “standards.” But these people are anti-education extremists. They wish to return us to the Dark Ages — before government kindergarten and pre-k — back when children, deprived of the guiding light of standardized education, quickly descended into psychosis and cannibalism.

Fear not. These anarchists are fighting a losing battle. These are the unhinged types who conceive children and then don’t even have the foresight to run to Barnes and Noble and purchase a bunch of parenting books instructing them on when their baby “should” crawl, or walk, or eat solid foods.

The barbarians.

They may wish to retain an ounce of freedom and creativity in their own chaotic households, but out here, in civilized society, we are moving past them. In fact, President Obama gave his State of the Union Address last week and once again reiterated his call for “Universal Pre-K.”

Yes, Mr. President. We must get the children away from their parents as soon as possible. And it is not enough for pre-k to be universal — it must be mandatory. But why stop there? I call for mandatory universal pre-pre K, which will be the next step after pre-pre-pre K, which would come right after a baby graduates from mandatory universal nursery instruction. If our children are to compete with the Chinese (surely, “competing” with Asian kids thousand of miles away must be the innate desire of all young Americans ) then we should stop wasting time. I say, let’s administer the first standardized test within 5 minutes of birth. That is, until the Russians give standardized tests to one-minute-olds.

Hurry! No time to waste! If your sons and daughters are to be obedient and useful cogs in the Assembly Line of Modern Society, we have to begin molding them for our purposes as soon as (or even before) they take their first breath.

Maybe, if we keep at it, if we work hard enough, we can create a country where children are no longer troubled with the stresses of being creative and imaginative; where they don’t engage in silly things like art, and sports, and music; where they have no sense of wonderment, or humor, or curiosity; where they can all simply sit still and regurgitate pieces of information onto sheets of paper.

A world where, essentially, that loathsome and inconvenient institution called “childhood” no longer exists in any discernible fashion.

Call me a dreamer if you like.

I suppose I am.

And that’s only because I didn’t spend enough time taking standardized tests in kindergarten.
Your 5 year old failed a standardized test. Theref... (show quote)


Auntie from your posts I think you did just what most of us older people did first grade @6 and guess what we could read and add and subtract at the end of the year . Most high school grads now can not read write add or subtract when they leave school now .

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Feb 11, 2014 12:18:12   #
67p5065
 
67p5065 wrote:
Auntie from your posts I think you did just what most of us older people did first grade @6 and guess what we could read and add and subtract at the end of the year . Most high school grads now can not read write add or subtract when they leave school now .


BTW we still had time wade the creeks fish play baseball football roll in the mud and grass and just have a good time being kids . Oh let us not forget the really good times mow the lawn work in a garden and God forbid carry out the trash

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Feb 11, 2014 14:04:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
67p5065 wrote:
BTW we still had time wade the creeks fish play baseball football roll in the mud and grass and just have a good time being kids . Oh let us not forget the really good times mow the lawn work in a garden and God forbid carry out the trash


A very nice thread.. I wish all kids could have the life described by those who enjoyed and recall our childhoods... another dismaying development, the fear many parents have of letting children run free, not managing activities and whereabouts all day everyday...Regrettable what is done a/c of safety for the young ones...

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Feb 11, 2014 14:26:38   #
67p5065
 
permafrost wrote:
A very nice thread.. I wish all kids could have the life described by those who enjoyed and recall our childhoods... another dismaying development, the fear many parents have of letting children run free, not managing activities and whereabouts all day everyday...Regrettable what is done a/c of safety for the young ones...


Shame of it all is the young ones are not safe playing on the front steps of their own homes anymore .

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Feb 11, 2014 15:06:53   #
bahmer
 
67p5065 wrote:
Shame of it all is the young ones are not safe playing on the front steps of their own homes anymore .


They're safe only if an armed guard is standing over them at all times. Where i grew up as a first grader I would ride the city bus across town and t***sfer downtown and then catch the west side buss and get off and go to school. I repeat those same steps in reverse at night when school was out and come home. No problem no one bothered you and the adults watched out for you. Today I wouldn't take that same route alone unless I was carrying a weapon. the west side when I was a kid was perfectly safe and I helped my cousin deliver newspapers on that side of town. Today an armored car would most likely be in order.

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Feb 11, 2014 16:22:46   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
bahmer wrote:
They're safe only if an armed guard is standing over them at all times. Where i grew up as a first grader I would ride the city bus across town and t***sfer downtown and then catch the west side buss and get off and go to school. I repeat those same steps in reverse at night when school was out and come home. No problem no one bothered you and the adults watched out for you. Today I wouldn't take that same route alone unless I was carrying a weapon. the west side when I was a kid was perfectly safe and I helped my cousin deliver newspapers on that side of town. Today an armored car would most likely be in order.
They're safe only if an armed guard is standing ov... (show quote)


In the dark ages, 1900-70, neighborhoods were more like villages, everyone knew everyone and watched each others children. We kids could do wh**ever we wanted, to a point, whenever we crossed a "line" an adult would show up out of nowhere and bust somebodies butt.

Touch another persons child, even to save their life, and you'll be seeing a courtroom. Don't correct another child, yell at them or demand their respect, or you'll be sued. If you're a male, DO NOT look at a female child for more than 10 seconds, or you'll be labeled a p*******e.

It is no wonder that it is so easy to label a child stupid or insane, all the adults already are. We need them to be in our image don't we, or was that GOD? I get confused.

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Feb 11, 2014 16:40:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lpnmajor wrote:
In the dark ages, 1900-70, neighborhoods were more like villages, everyone knew everyone and watched each others children. We kids could do wh**ever we wanted, to a point, whenever we crossed a "line" an adult would show up out of nowhere and bust somebodies butt.

Touch another persons child, even to save their life, and you'll be seeing a courtroom. Don't correct another child, yell at them or demand their respect, or you'll be sued. If you're a male, DO NOT look at a female child for more than 10 seconds, or you'll be labeled a p*******e.

It is no wonder that it is so easy to label a child stupid or insane, all the adults already are. We need them to be in our image don't we, or was that GOD? I get confused.
In the dark ages, 1900-70, neighborhoods were more... (show quote)


Much insane these days....Several years ago, I took my sons little girl to the local park in a Philadelphia suburb.. Had a camera with and took pics of her, the dog and then several little kids who wanted in on the fun... Got confronted by a small group, concerned with my motives, they called cops and to setle everyone down I deleted all the pics, even the dog and my granddaughter... Everyone but the cops were lived with my stalking of the playground kids.. I truly felt embarrassed even for them not only myself...Our world should be less fearful...

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Feb 11, 2014 19:36:29   #
Ricktloml
 
lpnmajor wrote:
In the dark ages, 1900-70, neighborhoods were more like villages, everyone knew everyone and watched each others children. We kids could do wh**ever we wanted, to a point, whenever we crossed a "line" an adult would show up out of nowhere and bust somebodies butt.

Touch another persons child, even to save their life, and you'll be seeing a courtroom. Don't correct another child, yell at them or demand their respect, or you'll be sued. If you're a male, DO NOT look at a female child for more than 10 seconds, or you'll be labeled a p*******e.

It is no wonder that it is so easy to label a child stupid or insane, all the adults already are. We need them to be in our image don't we, or was that GOD? I get confused.
In the dark ages, 1900-70, neighborhoods were more... (show quote)


Yet we are constantly told how wonderful it is to live in this modern society, where inconsequential things like morals and honor is the stuff of nightmares, and anyone who would suggest that moral relativism and gutter culture isn't the future we all wanted and hoped for is referred to as neanderthal, or worse

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