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Aug 10, 2017 12:25:31   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong & what needs to be done to right the ship of state.
Never having any real interest in listening to what each other have to say.

It is because we avoid giving or responding to relevant views.

Of course we are always right & the other is wrong.

But for some strange reason we just keep doing it.

No matter what you may wish to say the dialog should take place.

Because as we sit here there are those that keep doing things that are not in our best interest.
That is an issue every one has. Things are not going well for both sides & the blame is always on the other side.
Certainty this is an issue that affects us all.

Can we find a way to become relevant?

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Aug 10, 2017 13:26:09   #
thinksense
 
Not on this sort of forum.

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Aug 10, 2017 13:35:21   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
We thought we became relevant at the b****t box last November 8th, 2016. But the Democrats have proven us wrong on that, through their organized resistance, their complete obstructionism of President Trump's attempt to fulfill the promises that tens of millions of Americans v**ed for him to do, many millions of them being Democrats too, and the r**ts that the Democrats proclaim are simple protests, but with the destruction of public and private property, and physical harm to anyone who won't agree with their liberal policies and agendas. Then the Democrats proclaim how great they are to have submitted to a "Peaceful Exchange of Power" after those said e******ns.

But alas, the Democrats are correct, even though we are in the majority of the American citizens, and President T***p w*n the P**********l e******n by a huge e*****rial college v**e, the Democrats have proven that we are still irrelevent. But they should also take note, the Republicans are learning through their actions about resistance and obstructionism, just as they did from Harry Reid in changing the rules of the Senate, so what goes around, will definately come around. The next Democratic President will have a really rough and tough time of it.



Floyd Brown wrote:
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong & what needs to be done to right the ship of state.
Never having any real interest in listening to what each other have to say.

It is because we avoid giving or responding to relevant views.

Of course we are always right & the other is wrong.

But for some strange reason we just keep doing it.

No matter what you may wish to say the dialog should take place.

Because as we sit here there are those that keep doing things that are not in our best interest.
That is an issue every one has. Things are not going well for both sides & the blame is always on the other side.
Certainty this is an issue that affects us all.

Can we find a way to become relevant?
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong &... (show quote)

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Aug 10, 2017 13:41:27   #
Big Bass
 
Randy131 wrote:
We thought we became relevant at the b****t box last November 8th, 2016. But the Democrats have proven us wrong on that, through their organized resistance, their complete obstructionism of President Trump's attempt to fulfill the promises that tens of millions of Americans v**ed for him to do, many millions of them being Democrats too, and the r**ts that the Democrats proclaim are simple protests, but with public and private destruction of property, and physical harm to anyone who won't agree with their liberal policies and agendas. Then proclaim how great they are to have submitted to a "Peaceful Exchange of Power" after those said e******ns.

But alas the Democrats are correct, even though we are in the majority of the American citizens, and President T***p w*n the P**********l e******n by a huge e*****rial college v**e, the Democrats have proven that we are still irrelevent. But they should also take note, the Republicans are learning through their actions about resistance and obstructionism, just as they did from Harry Reid in changing the rules of the Senate, so what goes around, will definately come around. The next Democratic President will have a really rough time of it.
We thought we became relevant at the b****t box la... (show quote)


The libturds are still on their e******n hissy fit, not because hellary lost, but because they didn't get their way. As a trophy for losing, hellary should have been made president as it is her entitlement.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:08:39   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Randy131 wrote:
We thought we became relevant at the b****t box last November 8th, 2016. But the Democrats have proven us wrong on that, through their organized resistance, their complete obstructionism of President Trump's attempt to fulfill the promises that tens of millions of Americans v**ed for him to do, many millions of them being Democrats too, and the r**ts that the Democrats proclaim are simple protests, but with the destruction of public and private property, and physical harm to anyone who won't agree with their liberal policies and agendas. Then the Democrats proclaim how great they are to have submitted to a "Peaceful Exchange of Power" after those said e******ns.

But alas, the Democrats are correct, even though we are in the majority of the American citizens, and President T***p w*n the P**********l e******n by a huge e*****rial college v**e, the Democrats have proven that we are still irrelevent. But they should also take note, the Republicans are learning through their actions about resistance and obstructionism, just as they did from Harry Reid in changing the rules of the Senate, so what goes around, will definately come around. The next Democratic President will have a really rough and tough time of it.
We thought we became relevant at the b****t box la... (show quote)


I tell whether you're a sore winner or loser.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:10:07   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
The 2018 midterm e******ns are going to be a very good testament as to where the American people are concerning our nation and it's citizens, and if all this is worth it or not, and the Democrats are well aware of this also. So we'll see how resilient and tenacious the American people are, and whether they are patriots fighting for our nation and it's people, or favoring of the socialists, c*******ts, and f*****ts, synonymous to liberals, progressives, and Democrats, policies and agendas that Obama has taken this nation to the brink of destruction with. That 2018 midterm e******n is going to be the real tipping and turning points as to whether this nation will ever return to it's once 'Greatness & Glory', or follow the path that Chavez has taken Venezuella down, as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are attempting to do, for one or the other will be the Democratic nominee for President in the 2020 P**********l e******ns.



Big Bass wrote:
The libturds are still on their e******n hissy fit, not because hellary lost, but because they didn't get their way. As a trophy for losing, hellary should have been made president as it is her entitlement.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:19:48   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
thinksense wrote:
Not on this sort of forum.


Why not?

Is any one interested in seeking t***h or understanding.

Is it to only agree or disagree?

Our government is a mess & is there any interest in saving the good parts.

Most of us here have much more in common than we differ. Or at least we share much in common.

To say that most of us see things that are common short comings in what is going one is true.

Seeking only common preagreement with exchanges of interest will never bring dissenting voices together in a lasting understanding.
Only in areas of disagreement can we hope to find answers of lasting agreement.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:20:58   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong & what needs to be done to right the ship of state.
Never having any real interest in listening to what each other have to say.

It is because we avoid giving or responding to relevant views.

Of course we are always right & the other is wrong.

But for some strange reason we just keep doing it.

No matter what you may wish to say the dialog should take place.

Because as we sit here there are those that keep doing things that are not in our best interest.
That is an issue every one has. Things are not going well for both sides & the blame is always on the other side.
Certainty this is an issue that affects us all.

Can we find a way to become relevant?
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong &... (show quote)


Yea, we just v**ed in a guy that has all the answers, is convinced that our last president didn't know what he was doing and every time he goes looking he finds out that yea maybe the guy had some clue...

Let's look at the last month:

-Trump claimed that our nuclear arsenal was decades behind and the DOD wasn't doing anything about it. Not true: it was on the defense department to come up with solutions which are finally blossoming...and Trump still insists that he will do more. Hey Trump, less is more, get it?

-Isn't it ironic that he had to approve of China's currency (FOREX) activity to say they weren't currency manipulators. WE, the US in fact are currency manipulators...and once the oil industry collapses those petro-dollars are going to come back home, causing massive inflation.

-Trump decided that Iran's nuclear strategy was fine, because, Trump knows everything about it.

-It isn't so much his announcement about the amount destruction we will unleash, but that world has never seen anything like it. Guess he never heard of fire bombing Europe, Germany and Japan. And then dropping two small nuclear weapons (by today's standards) on Japan. Or the millions of Russians, Poles and Germans that starved on the Eastern front. Whatta wind bag.

-The opoid crisis was mitigated by medicare funds, and yet the ACA already had provisions in place for mental health treatment, WHICH INCLUDES TREATMENT FOR DRUGS. Treatment shouldn't include incarceration. Addiction is not a crime, but it will turn you into a criminal if you don't get help.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:30:24   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Randy131 wrote:
The 2018 midterm e******ns are going to be a very good testament as to where the American people are concerning our nation and it's citizens, and if all this is worth it or not, and the Democrats are well aware of this also. So we'll see how resilient and tenacious the American people are, and whether they are patriots fighting for our nation and it's people, or favoring of the socialists, c*******ts, and f*****ts, synonymous to liberals, progressives, and Democrats, policies and agendas that Obama has taken this nation to the brink of destruction with. That 2018 midterm e******n is going to be the real tipping and turning points as to whether this nation will ever return to it's once 'Greatness & Glory', or follow the path that Chavez has taken Venezuella down, as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are attempting to do, for one or the other will be the Democratic nominee for President in the 2020 P**********l e******ns.
The 2018 midterm e******ns are going to be a very ... (show quote)


It think that you need to take a good look how the those in Control's Bottom line are selling their plot to control the people by destroying Democracy.
It will not hurt to go over the rhetoric about all of the labels put on the different actions of government.
Labels may not always be clear & true to their general tone.

In you wish to be in tune to the changes in rhetoric about politics it may help to take new look at the rhetoric.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:33:00   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
"...Democrats..., through their organized resistance, their complete obstructionism of President Trump's attempt to fulfill the promises that tens of millions of Americans v**ed for him to do, many millions of them being Democrats too, and the r**ts that the Democrats proclaim are simple protests, but with the destruction of public and private property, and physical harm to anyone who won't agree with their liberal policies and agendas."

So does that make the Democrats good loosers, or poor losers??? It seems that all liberals, progressives, and Democrats only consider what is done to them as actions of a poor loser, but never what they do to others as being a poor loser, so where ar you on deciding which is the poor loser, or which is the poor winner, especially when one tells the other political party that it can't participate in the national healthcare bill, because e******ns have consequences, as Obama told the Republicans when they asked to be allowed to participate in the 'Affordable Care Act' (ACA - Obamacare), which Democrats today so conveniently forget when condemning the Republicans from learning from them to lock out the other political party when writing a healthcare plan.

The ironic thing here is the Democrats did the same to their own members, when Nancy Pelosi told them that they would have to v**e for it to find out what was in it, because it was the only way they could get it passed with their own membership, by not allowing anyone to see what was in it, for there are a few intelligent Democrats, who if they lerned what was in it, would have never v**ed for the 'ACA - Obamacare'. Then the American people would have been spared the sufferings and lost of jobs, and hindrance of creating new jobs, under the weight of Obamacare.

But at least the Republicans allow everyone to read what is in their heathcare bills, before they are required to v**e on them, and that is why they are having a tough time passing one, and the Democrats knew this would happen. This is why when the Republicans promised to repeal Obamacare of the public elected them, the Democrats talked them into adding to replace it also, which can't be done because they can't get a majority to agree on one plan, and why the Democrats would not allow anyone to read their ACA before they were required to v**e for it, because they knew that they couldn't either.



Dummy Boy wrote:
I tell whether you're a sore winner or loser.

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Aug 10, 2017 14:57:40   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I'm well informed and have kept up with the rhetoric and tone of politics for more than the last 20 years, and also know that no matter how much the conservatives bring down that tone and rhetoric, the Democrats certainly won't, until they take complete control of all governemnt positions and functions.

So in reality the tone and rhetoric in today's politics is simply a defense against the other sides actions of pretending that r**ts that they organize, for destruction of public and private property, and the physical harm that they perpetrate against any and all people who disagree with their political positions, policies, and agendas, is only spontaneous protests of the other side's views, and the policies and agendas that they got elected to institute, against the Democrats organized resistance and complete obstructionism to anything and everything that President Trump attempts to do in fulfilling his promises that tens of millions of American citizens elected him to do, with many of them being millions of Democrats too.

It seems that you can't see that one side is right in this conflict of interests, because they won the e******n, and that the people elected them to do as they promised, while the other side pretends that their actions is in accord with the American tradition of a 'Peaceful T******r of P***r' after our e******ns are over, while they actually do just the opposite as they claim.

There is no such thing as peace in organized r**ts and complete obstructionism of the policies and agendas that the majority of American citizens elected President Trump to institute and complete. But there is a learning curve going on now for what the media will accept as normal behaior, and when that time for another 'Peaceful T******r of P***r' comes, the media will be shown the exact same thing, and then we'll again see if there is a double standard where liberals, progressives, and Democrats can do no wrong in the liberal biased mainstream media's eyes, while the conservatives, Christians, and Republicans can do no right, for doing the exact same things as the Democrats had done when they lost power and refused to t***sfer it peacefully.



Floyd Brown wrote:
It think that you need to take a good look how the those in Control's Bottom line are selling their plot to control the people by destroying Democracy.
It will not hurt to go over the rhetoric about all of the labels put on the different actions of government.
Labels may not always be clear & true to their general tone.

In you wish to be in tune to the changes in rhetoric about politics it may help to take new look at the rhetoric.

Reply
 
 
Aug 10, 2017 16:58:28   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong & what needs to be done to right the ship of state.
Never having any real interest in listening to what each other have to say.

It is because we avoid giving or responding to relevant views.

Of course we are always right & the other is wrong.

But for some strange reason we just keep doing it.

No matter what you may wish to say the dialog should take place.

Because as we sit here there are those that keep doing things that are not in our best interest.
That is an issue every one has. Things are not going well for both sides & the blame is always on the other side.
Certainty this is an issue that affects us all.

Can we find a way to become relevant?
We sit here exchanging views about what is wrong &... (show quote)


Yes................with lots of drugs.

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Aug 11, 2017 08:40:46   #
Big Bass
 
Randy131 wrote:
The 2018 midterm e******ns are going to be a very good testament as to where the American people are concerning our nation and it's citizens, and if all this is worth it or not, and the Democrats are well aware of this also. So we'll see how resilient and tenacious the American people are, and whether they are patriots fighting for our nation and it's people, or favoring of the socialists, c*******ts, and f*****ts, synonymous to liberals, progressives, and Democrats, policies and agendas that Obama has taken this nation to the brink of destruction with. That 2018 midterm e******n is going to be the real tipping and turning points as to whether this nation will ever return to it's once 'Greatness & Glory', or follow the path that Chavez has taken Venezuella down, as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are attempting to do, for one or the other will be the Democratic nominee for President in the 2020 P**********l e******ns.
The 2018 midterm e******ns are going to be a very ... (show quote)

Very true, unfortunately. Why do they always bet on the nag? No p***e? The need to belong? When they v**ed for hellary, what on earth were they thinking? Can they think? They always accuse conservatives of being f*****ts. Look at the leaders of NoKo and Venezuela - both F*****TS in socialist/c*******t countries. Shouldn't alarm-bells be sounding in the libturd pointy heads?

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Aug 11, 2017 12:15:18   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
It takes intelligence and courage to see and recognize what you don't like or want, and being able to know what that really is. Now you know why they are so lacking in patriotism, and most don't even realize they are lacking.



Big Bass wrote:
Very true, unfortunately. Why do they always bet on the nag? No p***e? The need to belong? When they v**ed for hellary, what on earth were they thinking? Can they think? They always accuse conservatives of being f*****ts. Look at the leaders of NoKo and Venezuela - both F*****TS in socialist/c*******t countries. Shouldn't alarm-bells be sounding in the libturd pointy heads?

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Aug 11, 2017 12:18:13   #
Big Bass
 
Randy131 wrote:
It takes intelligence and courage to see and recognize what you don't like or want, and being able to know what that really is. Now you know why they are so lacking in patriotism, and most don't even realize they are lacking.


Yes! In a nutshell, selfishness. A very ugly trait.

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