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Memo to Conservatives: Republicans Aren't Your Friends
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Feb 7, 2014 14:10:59   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
FTA
Republicans are nice people. Too many Republicans think it's wrong to criticize other Republicans.

This failure to be forthright has had consequences. It has allowed the Republican Party to take up political space it has no business occupying as it embraces left-wing statist tyranny. Much of the time, the GOP is merely Democrat-lite.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) are so dangerously out of touch and out of control nowadays in part because other Republicans have allowed them to get that way. Boehner and McConnell regard conservatives as a nuisance to be overcome, co-opted, subverted, and if necessary, eliminated.

A new way of thinking is required.

For a start, if you self-identify as a Republican and you are serious about restoring the Constitution, shrinking the government, and reducing government spending, it is wrong to think of other Republican Party members as necessarily being your friends.

A political party isn't a club or a sacred religious order. It isn't a brotherhood or fraternity. The other people in the party aren't necessarily your friends, or even people you'd feel comfortable lending your lawnmower.

Here is wisdom: if you, as a Republican, remain true to small-government principles, many of your worst enemies will be found in your own party, and they are likely to be much more vicious, petty, vindictive, and malicious than most of your adversaries on the left. Intra-party squabbles and in-fighting are among the most brutal of all political conflicts in America.
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Personally I can attest to the t***hfulness of this information. I was set upon by republicans on a site a couple of days ago because I dared to v**e Libertarian in the last e******n - they insisted I helped them lose, even though I pointed out they lost by 2% of the v**es, yet Libertarian v**es came to only 1%. I told them I v**ed on principle - that Gary Johnson was the only one who truly valued individual freedoms - and they told me that principles do NOT COME BEFORE WINNING. But I can't believe the public can expect to see principled politicians when the people who elect them aren't doing so on the basis of principles. Maybe I am simply crazy.

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Feb 7, 2014 15:00:41   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
Tasine wrote:
FTA
Republicans are nice people. Too many Republicans think it's wrong to criticize other Republicans.

This failure to be forthright has had consequences. It has allowed the Republican Party to take up political space it has no business occupying as it embraces left-wing statist tyranny. Much of the time, the GOP is merely Democrat-lite.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) are so dangerously out of touch and out of control nowadays in part because other Republicans have allowed them to get that way. Boehner and McConnell regard conservatives as a nuisance to be overcome, co-opted, subverted, and if necessary, eliminated.

A new way of thinking is required.

For a start, if you self-identify as a Republican and you are serious about restoring the Constitution, shrinking the government, and reducing government spending, it is wrong to think of other Republican Party members as necessarily being your friends.

A political party isn't a club or a sacred religious order. It isn't a brotherhood or fraternity. The other people in the party aren't necessarily your friends, or even people you'd feel comfortable lending your lawnmower.

Here is wisdom: if you, as a Republican, remain true to small-government principles, many of your worst enemies will be found in your own party, and they are likely to be much more vicious, petty, vindictive, and malicious than most of your adversaries on the left. Intra-party squabbles and in-fighting are among the most brutal of all political conflicts in America.
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Personally I can attest to the t***hfulness of this information. I was set upon by republicans on a site a couple of days ago because I dared to v**e Libertarian in the last e******n - they insisted I helped them lose, even though I pointed out they lost by 2% of the v**es, yet Libertarian v**es came to only 1%. I told them I v**ed on principle - that Gary Johnson was the only one who truly valued individual freedoms - and they told me that principles do NOT COME BEFORE WINNING. But I can't believe the public can expect to see principled politicians when the people who elect them aren't doing so on the basis of principles. Maybe I am simply crazy.
FTA br Republicans are nice people. Too many Repu... (show quote)


Principled Politicians - Now where in Washington or any other place do we find some of those? Or at least enough to make a difference?

I don't think there are any incumbents that can make that claim, oh maybe a couple or three. But of those few, how many would you really trust? Let's see, Cruz, no to much political baggage. Rubio, no he is to wishy washy. The only one that I can think of is Trey Gowdy. Not that I know that much about him, but man he likes a good fight and doesn't seem (seem) to give a care about someone's feelings, when looking for the t***h.

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Feb 7, 2014 15:14:26   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
It seems to me the GOP is just plain terrified to say anything about Obama because he is black.

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Feb 7, 2014 15:14:37   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Unclet wrote:
Principled Politicians - Now where in Washington or any other place do we find some of those? Or at least enough to make a difference?

I don't think there are any incumbents that can make that claim, oh maybe a couple or three. But of those few, how many would you really trust? Let's see, Cruz, no to much political baggage. Rubio, no he is to wishy washy. The only one that I can think of is Trey Gowdy. Not that I know that much about him, but man he likes a good fight and doesn't seem (seem) to give a care about someone's feelings, when looking for the t***h.
Principled Politicians - Now where in Washington o... (show quote)

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And why should anyone expect better if the v**ers themselves don't operate via principles. Are we to assume the country's population doesn't believe in principles they can support? This is truly sad. :cry: :cry:

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Feb 7, 2014 15:34:06   #
grey gringo Loc: South Texas
 
Very well said Tasine, very well said!!

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Feb 7, 2014 15:36:49   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
Tasine wrote:
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And why should anyone expect better if the v**ers themselves don't operate via principles. Are we to assume the country's population doesn't believe in principles they can support? This is truly sad. :cry: :cry:


I see your point, however, I believe the unprincipled population outnumbers the principled population at this time. The real problem is, what has changed? How did a very large segment of our people become unprincipled? In a word, entitlements. Not saying that some entitlements are not needed, or have not been earned. I am saying that the corruption and criminality of the unprincipled masses that will only v**e for those who continue to provide "entitlements" need to be abandoned and replaced with honest and insightful overview.

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Feb 7, 2014 15:47:33   #
Fred Schnaubelt Loc: San Diego
 
Before the Republicans purge 99% of Republicans from the Party we need to keep the House and win the Senate. Without a majority no policies can be enacted. After we win -- I and the other six true blue conservatives in America can set the agenda. Until then remember, we are not trying to elect a Pope, for whom we may v**e differently than when v****g for a politician. Those who say they are subject to vitriol (which I've never seen in 50 years)I suggest you find new friends.

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Feb 7, 2014 15:51:27   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
Unclet wrote:
Principled Politicians - Now where in Washington or any other place do we find some of those? Or at least enough to make a difference?

I don't think there are any incumbents that can make that claim, oh maybe a couple or three. But of those few, how many would you really trust? Let's see, Cruz, no to much political baggage. Rubio, no he is to wishy washy. The only one that I can think of is Trey Gowdy. Not that I know that much about him, but man he likes a good fight and doesn't seem (seem) to give a care about someone's feelings, when looking for the t***h.
Principled Politicians - Now where in Washington o... (show quote)


Many on here feel he could never get nominated because he's only a second term house member I think it's time for a change. Go to his Facebook page and join the Trey Gowdy for president group.

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Feb 7, 2014 15:55:44   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Agreed but the interjection of religion makes these 'intellectual illiterates' even more terrorized, their 'moral responsibility' would affect their act, where tolerance and diversity are a factor.

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Feb 7, 2014 16:04:00   #
Fred Schnaubelt Loc: San Diego
 
About the makeup of the e*****rate.

TEA Party conservatives are winning today. You can tell by the hysterical over-the-top vitriolic rhetoric the liberals use whenever they are losing.

How can you prove we conservatives are winning? For over 2 decades, about twice as many Americans have claimed to be conservatives as liberals, 46% to 20% in 2012 according to Gallup, despite liberals dominating the media, universities, and Hollywood. Liberals become conservative once they move out of their parents’ home, get a job, get married, buy a house and pay taxes.

IF YOU LOOK AT A BELL CURVE

On the left, see a few hundred articulate and persuasive intellectuals of Socialism. People like John Kenneth Galbraith and Paul Krugman, (in Blue) followed by many more political activists (Orange) and the broad center low-information v**ers. (Green).

On the right, a few hundred articulate and persuasive intellectuals of free market Capitalism, like Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, and William Buckley, followed by many more in the choir. How good we get at “PERSUADING” the vast number in the broad middle, who may be great engineers, great musicians, great gardeners, church goers, parents but they are almost totally non-political, and who determine the nation’s fate.
You may be thinking to yourselves, Fred, you are speaking to the choir. But the choir is what counts in politics. It is critical that we spend time energizing the choir and providing it the intellectual ammunition to influence others to join our cause; to teach why limited government, private property, and the free market based on voluntary exchange is the only moral economic system ever devised.

The purpose of teaching others the philosophy of freedom, is not to convert them into believing in freedom from government, but to find them. More precisely, help them find themselves in becoming passionate about individual liberty and to swell the ranks of the choir. It’s the choir, it is us, who carry freedom and civilization forward generation to generation.

To better understand see http://www.romancingthev**ers.com for 2 Free Chapters



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Feb 7, 2014 16:27:47   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Tasine wrote:
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Republicans are nice people. Too many Republicans think it's wrong to criticize other Republicans.

This failure to be forthright has had consequences. It has allowed the Republican Party to take up political space it has no business occupying as it embraces left-wing statist tyranny. Much of the time, the GOP is merely Democrat-lite.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) are so dangerously out of touch and out of control nowadays in part because other Republicans have allowed them to get that way. Boehner and McConnell regard conservatives as a nuisance to be overcome, co-opted, subverted, and if necessary, eliminated.

A new way of thinking is required.

For a start, if you self-identify as a Republican and you are serious about restoring the Constitution, shrinking the government, and reducing government spending, it is wrong to think of other Republican Party members as necessarily being your friends.

A political party isn't a club or a sacred religious order. It isn't a brotherhood or fraternity. The other people in the party aren't necessarily your friends, or even people you'd feel comfortable lending your lawnmower.

Here is wisdom: if you, as a Republican, remain true to small-government principles, many of your worst enemies will be found in your own party, and they are likely to be much more vicious, petty, vindictive, and malicious than most of your adversaries on the left. Intra-party squabbles and in-fighting are among the most brutal of all political conflicts in America.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Personally I can attest to the t***hfulness of this information. I was set upon by republicans on a site a couple of days ago because I dared to v**e Libertarian in the last e******n - they insisted I helped them lose, even though I pointed out they lost by 2% of the v**es, yet Libertarian v**es came to only 1%. I told them I v**ed on principle - that Gary Johnson was the only one who truly valued individual freedoms - and they told me that principles do NOT COME BEFORE WINNING. But I can't believe the public can expect to see principled politicians when the people who elect them aren't doing so on the basis of principles. Maybe I am simply crazy.
FTA br Republicans are nice people. Too many Repu... (show quote)


Tasine-you are free to v**e as you choose. If you are v****g in congressional e******ns v****g for your favorite person is fine and if/she loses it might mean loss of that particular seat. Often times, though, by v****g one's personal choice it could determine which party controls either the House or the Senate. In a p**********l e******n,after the primaries have decided a nominee, it is much more important that the party candidate be supported even if he/she is not your first choice. The democrats win e******ns by being in lock-step with and fully supportive of the party candidate. Unless the republicans do the same the chances of winning the White House are slim. Since democrats outnumber republicans a republican nominee needs full support of the base plus a substantial number of independents to win a national e******n. Good Luck America !!!

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Feb 7, 2014 16:40:29   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Unclet wrote:
I see your point, however, I believe the unprincipled population outnumbers the principled population at this time. The real problem is, what has changed? How did a very large segment of our people become unprincipled? In a word, entitlements. Not saying that some entitlements are not needed, or have not been earned. I am saying that the corruption and criminality of the unprincipled masses that will only v**e for those who continue to provide "entitlements" need to be abandoned and replaced with honest and insightful overview.
I see your point, however, I believe the unprincip... (show quote)

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I couldn't agree more. A big part of what I see as the problem in addition to your comment is that our morality and integrity has skidded downhill at breakneck speed. A culture that is obscene will not last long and will never be a contented populace.

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Feb 7, 2014 16:49:25   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
The TEA Party must implement a more selective process to eliminate the level of infiltration, the left, the F*****t Islamists have been able to achieve, it is a very fine line when the Constitutional rights are brought front and center by the enemy within, just as Rubio, Boehner, Ryan, ran the TEA Party game, they were dishonest to claim they were what they were not, it is time long past that some security check is put in place, and should these 'agents' either financially or politically motivated, sabotage the premise of what the TEA Party is, they should be exposed, for the pretenders they are, at least some purity of policy can remain, as it is these individuals have the advantage of the illusion of being members of the political group, they are actually trying to destroy, without public condemnation it is doubtful that Obama's planned "Single Party State" can be stopped before the U.S.A., in declared rogue and becomes the Military for the Global Caliph**e, ascending since the 2008 c**p d'e'tat. There is no mention of the Christian Genocide the Arab Revolt [Arab Spring] was meant to complete, this is the essence of the "Syrian problem" J.F. Kerry addressed in Munich last week, strangely the place when in 1939 the "Polish problem" was addressed by Adolf Hitler, surprisingly no one saw that relationship for what it is.

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Feb 7, 2014 16:57:05   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Tasine wrote:
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And why should anyone expect better if the v**ers themselves don't operate via principles. Are we to assume the country's population doesn't believe in principles they can support? This is truly sad. :cry: :cry:


I believe that the #1 cause of the Republicans loosing the female v**e is because they always preach about the evil of a******n. Why do they insist on taking to the Fed level? Why not leave it alone. Immigration is another difficult issue. I******s should not be here and rewarding them citizenship will continue to be the a magnet and they will keep coming. They are mostly poorly educated and will be on assistance not matter how much the politicians say otherwise. It's hard for me to agree with the RNC's or, DMC''s total platforms so I am independent but, conservative Tea Party.

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Feb 7, 2014 17:07:10   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
People like you theorize totally useless reasoning to justify the revisionist psychology it takes to capitulate the country you live in.

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