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WH says Obamacare job losses are good!
Feb 5, 2014 23:21:36   #
The Dutchman
 
This week the Congressional Budget Office announced around 2 million full-time jobs will disappear because of Obamacare. Yet White House chief economic adviser Jason Furman said that’s a good thing because it gives workers more choices and more quality family time.

I’m telling you, this administration has more spin than a Maytag. And do they really think we’re THAT stupid? If we keep electing progressives, I guess so…

And O.B.T.W. for the liberal parasites that get their panties in a wad because I copy and paste some thing! So be it!

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Feb 6, 2014 06:56:05   #
Kevyn
 
The CBA did not say the jobs would be lost they said that people would move to other oppertunitys like starting their own businesses because they did not need to stay in dead end jobs just to keep or afford health insurance. The jobs they leave will be filled by people currently out of work. The original source of this story was the Washington Post which retracted it within less than an hour. Sadly even though it is patently false the story will linger on the Internet like the stink of a fart in an slow elevator.

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Feb 6, 2014 07:24:37   #
Ve'hoe
 
No,,, the CBO said exactly what he said it did.

It was the comrade reporter who said what you said.

Obviously,,, neither you nor comrade reporter has ever tried to open a business without backing, money, and a steady stream of income. If they did, they would soon find out that they cannot startup with the restrictions in ACA, nor could they hire workers at $10 an hour!!

Liberalism: Not chickens,, but Vultures coming home to roost, isnt it GRAND!?!

Kevyn wrote:
The CBA did not say the jobs would be lost they said that people would move to other oppertunitys like starting their own businesses because they did not need to stay in dead end jobs just to keep or afford health insurance. The jobs they leave will be filled by people currently out of work. The original source of this story was the Washington Post which retracted it within less than an hour. Sadly even though it is patently false the story will linger on the Internet like the stink of a fart in an slow elevator.
The CBA did not say the jobs would be lost they sa... (show quote)

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Feb 6, 2014 10:01:24   #
Kevyn
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
No,,, the CBO said exactly what he said it did.

It was the comrade reporter who said what you said.

Obviously,,, neither you nor comrade reporter has ever tried to open a business without backing, money, and a steady stream of income. If they did, they would soon find out that they cannot startup with the restrictions in ACA, nor could they hire workers at $10 an hour!!

Liberalism: Not chickens,, but Vultures coming home to roost, isnt it GRAND!?!


The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 employees. If you can start a company right now and employ 50 people there is a good chance you can afford to provide them with basic benefits especially considering your competition will have to do the same. When employers do not pay a living wage taxpayers subsidise those businesses by providing basics like food stamps and Medicade to keep them their labor out of object poverty. This allows them to unfairly compete with employers who pay a living wage and provide benefits. A raise in minimum wage will lift people out of poverty and allow them to support themselves.

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Feb 6, 2014 12:29:02   #
The Dutchman
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
No,,, the CBO said exactly what he said it did.

It was the comrade reporter who said what you said.

Obviously,,, neither you nor comrade reporter has ever tried to open a business without backing, money, and a steady stream of income. If they did, they would soon find out that they cannot startup with the restrictions in ACA, nor could they hire workers at $10 an hour!!

Liberalism: Not chickens,, but Vultures coming home to roost, isnt it GRAND!?!



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Feb 6, 2014 12:31:48   #
Ve'hoe
 
OK,,,, so here is an example, on dental offices of ACA's effects on small corporations:

1. If the small business employer chooses to provide (health) coverage for employees, qualifying employers with fewer than 25 employees and average annual wages of less than $50,000 will be eligible for tax credits (which disappear after 2016), on a sliding scale, to assist the purchase of health insurance coverage. (Only temporary)

2. ACA provisions levy a 2.3 percent medical device excise tax scheduled to take effect Jan. 1, 2013. The ADA and members of the Organized Dentistry Coalition have opposed implementation of the device tax, and the House of Representatives passed a bill in June to eliminate the tax. The legislation is stalled in the Senate. The coalition estimates that the tax will increase the cost of dental care by more than $160 million annually.

So,,, the effects to small businesses will be for employees to lose their healthcoverage,, and typical policy increases have gone way up,,,even at $10/hr, cannot be afforded. Tax subsudies are temporary, so that is not something that will continue as that will eat into profits, a practice that doesnt profit goes out of business, so less Dr's less options for treament. The medical device tax increases dental cost,,, borne out of pocket most likely for the employees who lost their healthcare and dental care...

Those certainly ARE effects on business under 50 Employees! Not to mention the loss of providers and choices in care. Are they not??

That will also effect the bottom line of a struggling company,, not to mention if you decide to become a dentist and have to pay back those school loans!?!



Kevyn wrote:
The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 employees. If you can start a company right now and employ 50 people there is a good chance you can afford to provide them with basic benefits especially considering your competition will have to do the same. When employers do not pay a living wage taxpayers subsidise those businesses by providing basics like food stamps and Medicade to keep them their labor out of object poverty. This allows them to unfairly compete with employers who pay a living wage and provide benefits. A raise in minimum wage will lift people out of poverty and allow them to support themselves.
The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 ... (show quote)

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Feb 6, 2014 12:42:05   #
Ve'hoe
 
MINIMUM WAGE:

"Because less than 3% of the workforce earns the minimum wage, increasing it will not greatly increase unemployment. Still, raising the price of low-productivity workers will somewhat reduce demand for them.

If you reject that last sentence. If you do, name other goods or services for which you think demand is inelastic when their prices increase." George Will

That is a pretty pertinent question????





Kevyn wrote:
The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 employees. If you can start a company right now and employ 50 people there is a good chance you can afford to provide them with basic benefits especially considering your competition will have to do the same. When employers do not pay a living wage taxpayers subsidise those businesses by providing basics like food stamps and Medicade to keep them their labor out of object poverty. This allows them to unfairly compete with employers who pay a living wage and provide benefits. A raise in minimum wage will lift people out of poverty and allow them to support themselves.
The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 ... (show quote)

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Feb 6, 2014 14:30:04   #
The Dutchman
 
Kevyn wrote:
The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 employees. If you can start a company right now and employ 50 people there is a good chance you can afford to provide them with basic benefits especially considering your competition will have to do the same. When employers do not pay a living wage taxpayers subsidise those businesses by providing basics like food stamps and Medicade to keep them their labor out of object poverty. This allows them to unfairly compete with employers who pay a living wage and provide benefits. A raise in minimum wage will lift people out of poverty and allow them to support themselves.
The ACA dosn't effect company's with less than 50 ... (show quote)


Well it is quite obvious that you don't have a clue what your talking about.
Have you ever owned a business?

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Feb 6, 2014 14:33:07   #
The Dutchman
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
MINIMUM WAGE:

"Because less than 3% of the workforce earns the minimum wage, increasing it will not greatly increase unemployment. Still, raising the price of low-productivity workers will somewhat reduce demand for them.

If you reject that last sentence. If you do, name other goods or services for which you think demand is inelastic when their prices increase." George Will

That is a pretty pertinent question????



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Feb 6, 2014 17:47:22   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
MINIMUM WAGE:

"Because less than 3% of the workforce earns the minimum wage, increasing it will not greatly increase unemployment. Still, raising the price of low-productivity workers will somewhat reduce demand for them.

If you reject that last sentence. If you do, name other goods or services for which you think demand is inelastic when their prices increase." George Will

That is a pretty pertinent question????




Ve'hoe....

You and Dutch, have the patience of a saint. It's nice to see you guys trying to educate Kevin. I just hope he appreciates your time and effort, you gentlemen are to be commended.

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