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Jul 13, 2017 16:18:29   #
Big dog
 
This we learned from famous men, knowing not it's uses. When in showing daily work, right or wrong, his daily work, man must finish off his work, and without excuses.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:26:43   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Big dog wrote:
This we learned from famous men, knowing not it's uses. When in showing daily work, right or wrong, his daily work, man must finish off his work, and without excuses.
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Rudyard Kipling in one of his poems.

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Jul 13, 2017 20:36:39   #
Big dog
 
pafret wrote:
Rudyard Kipling in one of his poems.


VERY GOOD. Can you name the story that the poem was in ?

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Jul 13, 2017 21:23:44   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Big dog wrote:
VERY GOOD. Can you name the story that the poem was in ?


Didn't know the poem was in a story and I can't recall the name of the poem either, it was something about school. Every time I think about Kipling this limerick pops into my head -- not Kipling, but in his style and funny.

Pity poor Leftenant Kyber,
He was stricken with intestinal gas,
A Native gave him a medicinal herb,
Now you should see Kyber Pass!

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Jul 14, 2017 07:17:16   #
Big dog
 
pafret wrote:
Didn't know the poem was in a story and I can't recall the name of the poem either, it was something about school. Every time I think about Kipling this limerick pops into my head -- not Kipling, but in his style and funny.

Pity poor Leftenant Kyber,
He was stricken with intestinal gas,
A Native gave him a medicinal herb,
Now you should see Kyber Pass!


I like that one
You're correct, the part of the poem I quoted is about a group of boys in school. The poem, a LONG one, is the intro to " Staulky and company". At least that's what I remember. My mother had to read that when she was in school, WAY long ago. I remember that small part of the poem and use it quite often at work.

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Jul 14, 2017 09:53:47   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Big dog wrote:
I like that one
You're correct, the part of the poem I quoted is about a group of boys in school. The poem, a LONG one, is the intro to " Staulky and company". At least that's what I remember. My mother had to read that when she was in school, WAY long ago. I remember that small part of the poem and use it quite often at work.


I love Kipling because of his immensely descriptive use of language:

Mandalay
BY the old Moulmein Pagoda, lookin' lazy at the sea,
There's a Burma girl a-settin', and I know she thinks o' me;
For the wind is in the palm-trees, and the temple-bells they say:
"Come you back, you British soldier; come you back to Mandalay!"
Come you back to Mandalay,
Where the old Flotilla lay:
Can't you 'ear their paddles chunkin' from Rangoon to Mandalay?
On the road to Mandalay,
Where the flyin'-fishes play,
An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!


The Widow at Windsor
'AVE you 'eard o' the Widow at Windsor
With a hairy gold crown on 'er 'ead?
She 'as ships on the foam -- she 'as millions at 'ome,
An' she pays us poor beggars in red.
[Ow, poor beggars in red!]:
There's 'er nick on the cavalry 'orses,
There's 'er mark on the medical stores --
An' 'er troopers you'll find with a fair wind be'ind
That takes us to various wars.
[Poor beggars! -- barbarious wars!]:
Then 'ere's to the Widow at Windsor,
An' 'ere's to the stores an' the guns,
The men an' the 'orses what makes up the forces
O' Missis Victorier's sons.
[Poor beggars! Victorier's sons!]:
Walk wide o' the Widow at Windsor,
When the Widow at Windsor says "Stop"!
[Poor beggars! -- we're sent to say "Stop"!]:
Then 'ere's to the Lodge o' the Widow,
From the Pole to the Tropics it runs --
To the Lodge that we tile with the rank an' the file,
An' open in form with the guns.
[Poor beggars! -- it's always they guns!]

The Young British Soldier
WHEN the 'arf-made recruity goes out to the East
'E acts like a babe an' 'e drinks like a beast,
An' 'e wonders because 'e is frequent deceased
Ere 'e's fit for to serve as a soldier.
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!
Now all you recruities what's drafted to-day,
You shut up your rag-box an' 'ark to my lay,
An' I'll sing you a soldier as far as I may:
A soldier what's fit for a soldier.
Fit, fit, fit for a soldier . . .

And this Soldiers complaint which resonates down through the years, only the class of 45 escaped this treatment.

Tommy Atkins
I went into a public 'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, " We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' " Tommy, go away " ;
But it's " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' " Tommy, wait outside ";
But it's " Special train for Atkins " when the trooper's on the tide
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's " Special train for Atkins " when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap.
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Tommy, 'ow's yer soul? "
But it's " Thin red line of 'eroes " when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's " Thin red line of 'eroes, " when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's " Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's " Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Chuck him out, the brute! "
But it's " Saviour of 'is country " when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An 'Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

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Jul 14, 2017 10:05:14   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Big dog wrote:
I like that one
You're correct, the part of the poem I quoted is about a group of boys in school. The poem, a LONG one, is the intro to " Staulky and company". At least that's what I remember. My mother had to read that when she was in school, WAY long ago. I remember that small part of the poem and use it quite often at work.


I got a free copy of this book "Stalky & Co., by Rudyard Kipling" from Project Gutenberg at this link:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3006/3006-h/3006-h.htm
I will add it to my pile of books waiting to be read, thanks for the info.

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Jul 14, 2017 10:13:51   #
Big dog
 
pafret wrote:
I got a free copy of this book "Stalky & Co., by Rudyard Kipling" from Project Gutenberg at this link:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3006/3006-h/3006-h.htm
I will add it to my pile of books waiting to be read, thanks for the info.


He did have a way with words.
You'll like Stalky & Co.

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Jul 14, 2017 12:30:36   #
kmsmncm
 
Big dog wrote:
I like that one
You're correct, the part of the poem I quoted is about a group of boys in school. The poem, a LONG one, is the intro to " Staulky and company". At least that's what I remember. My mother had to read that when she was in school, WAY long ago. I remember that small part of the poem and use it quite often at work.


The men on my father's side of the family were always partial to Kipling. 'Barracks Room Ballads and other Ditties' was a family favorite. In it, you can find classics like "Gunga Din', 'The Fall of Jock Gillespie', and 'Beloved', to name a few. Another poet that was beloved by my paternal grandmother was Robert Service.

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Jul 14, 2017 13:34:31   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
kmsmncm wrote:
The men on my father's side of the family were always partial to Kipling. 'Barracks Room Ballads and other Ditties' was a family favorite. In it, you can find classics like "Gunga Din', 'The Fall of Jock Gillespie', and 'Beloved', to name a few. Another poet that was beloved by my paternal grandmother was Robert Service.


Loved "The shooting of Dan McGrew", Dangerous Dan McGrew.. Interestingly, only two writers of significance came out of the Alaskan Gold Rush, Service and Jack London and they both wrote something named "The Call of The Wild". The poem celebrates the Alaskan wilderness and the story is about a sled dog named Buck.

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Jul 14, 2017 15:31:11   #
kmsmncm
 
pafret wrote:
Loved "The shooting of Dan McGrew", Dangerous Dan McGrew.. Interestingly, only two writers of significance came out of the Alaskan Gold Rush, Service and Jack London and they both wrote something named "The Call of The Wild". The poem celebrates the Alaskan wilderness and the story is about a sled dog named Buck.


In her later years, my Grandma S. sent me her copy of 'The Best of Robert Service' and one of my favorites was that very same poem you mentioned; he had a way with poesy that only Kipling and a few others of his age were able to equal. The ability to tell a story with poetry, using common language that everyone can understand, and getting you into the gritty details of a harsh life are rare indeed.

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