joe1941

stan3186

What exactly is the point of this post? War is terrible. In any war there are going to be innocent civilians men, women, and children that are injured or k**led. The underlying causes of war are always questionable. Almost all governments are headed by leaders who have an agenda.

I have very little doubt that many of the "reasons" to go to war are exaggerated or just made up. One has to look at the actual underlining cause of the leader or leaders desire to go to war. In every case, someone or some country are some people's will reap benefits of every war.

It would be wonderful if all governments were benevolent and peaceful. That is a utopian dream that has never been a fact during the history of mankind. Humans are aggressive, humans are envious of other humans, most governments are aggressive, most governments want what other governments have. That is the way of the world. It is not pretty and we wish it were not so but it is.

This video depicts the violence and the terrible loss that innocents endure in wars. There is no argument that wars are tragic and there is no argument that a small number of people and companies will benefit from the human tragedy that is in evitable in war.

With all of that being said the fact the matter is that all of the American citizens benefit from wars. The United States government is protecting our way of life. I am not going to write a dissertation about the underlying reasons for every conflict United States has been in. But I think you'll find that there was usually an attack on American holdings or American interests in each of the wars the United States became involved. It is almost always because of economics.

This film depicts the United States as aggressors in each of these conflicts; that is an exaggeration. United States will protect its economic interest around the world. Why did the United States, for example, get into World War II? Was it because of the bombing of Pearl Harbor? Maybe, but it was more likely because of the economics associated with Japan aligning itself with Germany who was a threat to the world and had attacked our closest ally Britain. We blockaded Japan to hurt them economically which is what cause Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was the excuse that Roosevelt needed to get involved in the war. ECONOMICS.

As a said I don't want to do a dissertation about all the wars but you could do research and you would find that every war had do with economics.

One more thing, regardless of the reasons why the United States became involved in each of these conflicts, once involved we must win. If it involves using questionable ordinance which results in the deaths of innocent civilians, as terrible as it sounds, we should use wh**ever means are necessary to win. As a for instance, should we have used the nuclear bomb on Japan? I guess it depends on how much value you put on American lives of as compared to Japanese lives. As horrible as it was, using that bomb or bombs probably saved many thousands of American lives that would have been lost and the war d**gged out until the last Japanese soldier had been k**led. The Japanese proclaimed that they would fight until the last man was k**led. How long do you think that would've taken and how many American lives would have been lost.

Not-a-RINO Loc: Michigan

Good post! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

It has been said that if goods and services don't cross borders, armies most certainly will. I suppose this underscores your assertion economics is a motive for war and you're right.

GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV

I think everyone should watch this.and make a comment on it. very interesting.But really think hard,before you comment!

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Thank you for posting this. I do hope everyone watches it. There are a thousand topics that could be discussed and I don't know where to start. I think we all, myself included, can easily be side tracked by a lot of trivial (partisan) bull s**t. I have to remember that the facts presented in this video (and I'm sure some on here will contend they are not facts) is why I got involved. 9/11/01 was a wake up call for me. I must not forget that.

stan3186

I do not disagree with your statement in general, however, this video implied that Osama bin Laden was not behind the 9/11 attacks. This is conspiracy theorist at their worst. I do not know who or what the author of this video blames for those attacks. I'm making an assumption here that someone within our government actually was behind the attacks. It appeared that he was actually blaming President Bush. I have no idea where this comes from nor do I care to explore it because is utter nonsense.

This video has the odor of something that Bill Ayres would theorize, who is a professed c*******t and terrorist who would like nothing more than the bring down United States of America.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

thanks for your comment. I hope the conversation does not degenerate into who was responsible for 9/11. There are many more pertinent topics that could be discussed.

GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV

JOE. I since you posted this,i was wondering what was on your mind after you watched it .I never like to comment on anything ,until I hear what others get out of what they saw. so what did you get out of it?

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Are you saying you are incapable of making your own decisions on a topic without someone to give you your talking points, and what to think? Sad. But that is par for the course with Liberal Progressives.

szalman60

Families of the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks today celebrated a federal court's ruling that allows relatives of people who died in the 9/11 terror attacks to sue Saudi Arabia.

Most of the hijackers who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in 2001 were from Saudi Arabia, and the complaint states that much of the funding for the al-Qaeda terrorists came from Saudi Arabia.

szalman60

Families of the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks today celebrated a federal court's ruling that allows relatives of people who died in the 9/11 terror attacks to sue Saudi Arabia.

Most of the hijackers who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in 2001 were from Saudi Arabia, and the complaint states that much of the funding for the al-Qaeda terrorists came from Saudi Arabia.

szalman60

Christmas has come early to the 9/11 families. We're going to have our day in court," he told ABCNews.com.

The ruling struck down an earlier decision that found Saudi Arabia immune from lawsuits. The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said it's in the "interests of justice" to allow them to proceed.

szalman60

The lawsuit, filed a decade ago by the Philadelphia firm Cozen O'Connor, accuses the Saudi government and members of the royal family of serving on charities that financed al-Qaeda operations

Glaucon

If we get in wars, we must win? The last war we made and won was Reagan's war against Granada. However, that was less than satisfactory because Granada didn't have any weapons and didn't put up any resistance.

dukeofsc

Only in color, hes doing exactly the same in every other field of endeavor so far as I can tell.