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New lawsuit seeks to invalidate entire Obamacare law based on Constitution’s “Origination Clause”
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Apr 1, 2013 05:10:54   #
OPP Newsletter
 
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/46827078792/new-lawsuit-seeks-to-invalidate-entire-obamacare-law

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Apr 1, 2013 05:50:13   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
Well, I am not holding my breath and it may take time we do not have, but at least there is hope.

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Apr 1, 2013 10:41:25   #
tombrady
 
well im sure the 40,000 americans who die evry year because they cant get health insurance will disagree with you. if we cant spend 3 trillion on unfunded wars there must be a way we can afford obamacare

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Apr 1, 2013 10:59:08   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
tombrady wrote:
well im sure the 40,000 americans who die evry year because they cant get health insurance will disagree with you. if we cant spend 3 trillion on unfunded wars there must be a way we can afford obamacare


Where and how do you come by the 40,000 figure?

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Apr 1, 2013 13:23:27   #
tombrady
 
harvard medical journal back in 2010 . such figures can always be disputed but they are not a politcal organization but a medical sooooooo

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Apr 1, 2013 13:46:45   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
Do we have figures for people who are on Medicaid and die anyway?

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Apr 1, 2013 20:36:47   #
tombrady
 
0 people died because of lack of health care who were on medicaid because medicaid is a health plan.. ..obamcare is a moral imperative. to allow our fellow citizens to die because they are poor is immoral. it in the bible, you might have heard this but we are a christian nation. you worried about paying it? simple cut miltary by 200 billion thats more than enough. i think we can get by on 400 billion miltary spending since no one else spends half on that

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Apr 1, 2013 21:31:37   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
tombrady, please try again. I cannot make heads or tails of what you are trying to say.

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Apr 1, 2013 22:16:56   #
tombrady
 
No worries your not capable of understanding how someone can care about someone but yourself

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Apr 1, 2013 23:51:05   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
tombrady wrote:
No worries your not capable of understanding how someone can care about someone but yourself


What have I said to you to warrant this? Did I not welcome you to this forum? You have been a nasty little bug ever since. Now, do try to correct your spelling and grammar in that last message so that I can understand it.

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Apr 2, 2013 01:04:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
tombrady wrote:
0 people died because of lack of health care who were on medicaid because medicaid is a health plan.. ..obamcare is a moral imperative. to allow our fellow citizens to die because they are poor is immoral. it in the bible, you might have heard this but we are a christian nation. you worried about paying it? simple cut miltary by 200 billion thats more than enough. i think we can get by on 400 billion miltary spending since no one else spends half on that


I wouldn't be worried about paying all that Medicaid money if it weren't for the $70 billion per year being taken from my Medicare. You don't appear to know diddly about what is taken, by Obamacare, from Medicare. Do you know the difference in Medicare and Medicaid? I bet not.

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Apr 2, 2013 01:11:04   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/46827078792/new-lawsuit-seeks-to-invalidate-entire-obamacare-law


Oh my, I talked and talked about the origination part of that law on another forum and the left leaners went wild about there being no such thing as that. I quoted the Constitution for them and still they couldn't handle it. Yes, that case will get to the Supreme Court but not for a year or two and we will be suffering by that time.

Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution says in the first sentence that all bills to raise revenue (tax bills) must originate in the House of Representatives and we all know that Obamacare originated in the Senate before Nasty Nancy told the House that they would have to pass it to find out what was in it. It was never debated on the floor of either house, not one minute in a committee or anything like that that the Constitution requires and the leaders of the Democrat power have finally realized how badly they screwed up.

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Apr 2, 2013 01:12:03   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/46827078792/new-lawsuit-seeks-to-invalidate-entire-obamacare-law


Oh my, I talked and talked about the origination part of that law on another forum and the left leaners went wild about there being no such thing as that. I quoted the Constitution for them and still they couldn't handle it. Yes, that case will get to the Supreme Court but not for a year or two and we will be suffering by that time.

Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution says in the first sentence that all bills to raise revenue (tax bills) must originate in the House of Representatives and we all know that Obamacare originated in the Senate before Nasty Nancy told the House that they would have to pass it to find out what was in it. It was never debated on the floor of either house, not one minute in a committee or anything like that that the Constitution requires and the leaders of the Democrat power have finally realized how badly they screwed up.

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Apr 2, 2013 08:39:44   #
sbourg
 
JohnGalt: I recommend you stop posting to the brick-wall TomBrady......he was 100% wrong right from his little factoid of $3T on wars.......Iraq&Afghan wars cost about $1T over 10 yrs, that's $100B/yr, a spit in the ocean of our massive Obama-deficits......but the L*****ts (TomBrady) don't realize that. And his logic is badly mis-written......he wrote "If we can't afford $3T for unfunded wars, we can afford ObamaCare". Jeez.

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Apr 2, 2013 08:55:18   #
stairman
 
sbourg wrote:
JohnGalt: I recommend you stop posting to the brick-wall TomBrady......he was 100% wrong right from his little factoid of $3T on wars.......Iraq&Afghan wars cost about $1T over 10 yrs, that's $100B/yr, a spit in the ocean of our massive Obama-deficits......but the L*****ts (TomBrady) don't realize that. And his logic is badly mis-written......he wrote "If we can't afford $3T for unfunded wars, we can afford ObamaCare". Jeez.


even the hundred billion figure is high...we would have been paying the military people anyway,training would have been going on anyway.

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