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Apr 20, 2017 18:27:28   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
WHAT CREATED US

IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR INNOCENCE.
"Us" by Paul Genova


(Mr. Paul Genova has been President and Chief Operating Officer of Wireless Telecom Group Inc. since June 30, 2016).


I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....

I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.

In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.

Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.

How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!

You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.

You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.

You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.

You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.

You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.

You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.

You created "us" when you attacked our flag.

You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.

You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.

You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.

You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.

You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.

You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.

You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.

You created "us" the silent majority.

You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.

You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.

You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.

You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.

You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.

And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".

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Apr 20, 2017 21:36:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
BearK wrote:
WHAT CREATED US

IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR INNOCENCE.
"Us" by Paul Genova


(Mr. Paul Genova has been President and Chief Operating Officer of Wireless Telecom Group Inc. since June 30, 2016).


I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....

I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.

In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.

Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.

How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!

You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.

You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.

You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.

You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.

You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.

You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.

You created "us" when you attacked our flag.

You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.

You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.

You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.

You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.

You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.

You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.

You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.

You created "us" the silent majority.

You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.

You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.

You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.

You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.

You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.

And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".
WHAT CREATED US br br IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR IN... (show quote)



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Apr 21, 2017 08:32:56   #
Snoopy
 
BearK wrote:
WHAT CREATED US

IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR INNOCENCE.
"Us" by Paul Genova


(Mr. Paul Genova has been President and Chief Operating Officer of Wireless Telecom Group Inc. since June 30, 2016).


I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....

I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.

In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.

Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.

How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!

You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.

You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.

You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.

You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.

You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.

You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.

You created "us" when you attacked our flag.

You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.

You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.

You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.

You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.

You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.

You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.

You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.

You created "us" the silent majority.

You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.

You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.

You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.

You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.

You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.

And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".
WHAT CREATED US br br IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR IN... (show quote)



Bear:

Thank you! You brought to the forefront valid issues that needed to be pointed out.

Fantastic!

May God bless you.

Snoopy

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Apr 21, 2017 09:27:10   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Snoopy wrote:
Bear:

Thank you! You brought to the forefront valid issues that needed to be pointed out.

Fantastic!

May God bless you.

Snoopy


Snoopy is my favorite Charlie Brown character.

Glad you and NPP liked "US" I'm sick of the cream puff, snowflakes who are offended at everything that doesn't fit their narrative. It's a wonder they were brought up to be able to wipe their own behind.

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Apr 21, 2017 10:48:55   #
bahmer
 
BearK wrote:
WHAT CREATED US

IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR INNOCENCE.
"Us" by Paul Genova


(Mr. Paul Genova has been President and Chief Operating Officer of Wireless Telecom Group Inc. since June 30, 2016).


I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....

I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.

In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.

Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.

How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!

You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.

You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.

You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.

You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.

You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.

You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.

You created "us" when you attacked our flag.

You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.

You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.

You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.

You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.

You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.

You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.

You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.

You created "us" the silent majority.

You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.

You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.

You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.

You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.

You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.

And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".
WHAT CREATED US br br IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR IN... (show quote)



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Apr 22, 2017 17:48:55   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
BearK wrote:
WHAT CREATED US

IN THE 60'S WE LOST OUR INNOCENCE.
"Us" by Paul Genova


(Mr. Paul Genova has been President and Chief Operating Officer of Wireless Telecom Group Inc. since June 30, 2016).

***********************************
This response has been technically difficult. I do hope you'll excuse some of the typos(?)

I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....
& I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.
** It has been accepted that the Democratic loss was due to the candidate not having a policy stand.
& In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.
** We are not posting things about Trump followers. Trump raised the degree of bias and allowed those so biased to follow through with actions – “because the president does.” It’s so much easier to blame your problems on a minority (any minority) than to search for a solution.
& Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.
** We are “sick” about the result. Please note how your candidate is doing in the Oval Office thus far. He hasn’t succeeded in ANY of his promises. He IS NOT living up to his promises to his followers. When he fails, he is always blaming anyone besides himself. Can’t you see that he is blaming Democrats for now going along with his attempted takedown of the ACA. Did he not realize that Democrats would fight him? Many Republicans also voted against repeal without replacement.
& How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!
& You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.
** Who is attempting to do away with freedom of speech by attacking all news outlets except FOX?
& You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.
** We are not against bearing arms but the Constitution does include the phrase “for an organized militia.” It does not OK everyone owning an arsenal.
& You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.
** Beg to differ but there are many Democratic Christians. The Democrats and Independents certainly believe in “separation of church and state” and definitely do believe that religions should not be a force in politics. The Evangelicals are constantly attempting to include their religious beliefs and enforce them on the rest of the populace.
& You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.
** Racist is a hard label to accept. It takes some honest introspection.
& You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.
** See above.
& You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.
** The Republicans have been in the way of any progress this country needs to make (note: climate change.) The rest of the world believes it. Their insistence of it being a hoax (and note: Trump believes that climate change was created by China – that is until he had chocolate cake with the Chinese president.. Can you name anything at all that the Republicans have done for the good of this country? Name one!
& You created "us" when you attacked our flag.
** Please note that in the 60s or 70s flag burning was decided as an expression of “freedom of speech” by the Supreme Court.
& You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.
** God and religious teachings belong in homes or religious institutions. Schools should be interested only in knowledge of this nation and loyalty to it and how it’s run. There should be taught the contents of our Constitution. By the way, which god, aside from the Christian god, would you find allowable in our schools. I believe that ALL religions should be taught in schools; at least the five great religions of the world in a course designed for that purpose.
& You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.
** It is sad that human rights must entail women’s rights. Most women (and feminists) are only asking to be treated like “a person.” On health issues, who would know more about what is good for the woman? Men, who have messed up the world so far are afraid, as they always have been, of women with brains. It’s been proven scientifically that the female brain is much better at multitasking than the males. The problem lies with the manner in which males are raised; why can’t they cry; why must they conceal their emotions. The only one they are able to show are those connected with mating. It has also been proven scientifically and sociologically that, when times are tough, men fight whereas women join together to look for solutions that would improve the situation and bring about peace.
Throughout history it has been proven that societies led by women remain helpful to each other and gain their strength through understanding.
In addition, having gone through childbirth, women are less prone toward destroying their own creations. They really don’t have anything to “prove.” Who created the idea of “carrying on” a surname? Certainly not women!
Years ago I read a book, “Circle of Stones.” Can’t recall the author’s name at the moment but it is a professor of anthropology in a California university. It made quite an impression and produced greater understanding for me. There is one instance when a mother of two (one still nursing) come upon a male and, having been told that males are known to kill children and (like some cats) kill the young. The woman sends the older child to run away and, in order to calm the male, simply bends over. I’m sure you will laugh at this but, think – has the male population changed very much?
The reason there is so much difficulty in accepting those of the opposite gender simply as “a person” is that it is accepted that in order to be considered strong, a female must adopt male attitudes. I do recall an era where it was impossible to purchase a suit with a skirt.
& You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.
** The word “emasculate” was created by men. As males do have control over the other mammals on this earth, they still need those of the opposite gender to also be subservient.
I’m sorry, dear, but this is a societal problem.
& You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.
** I think your definition of the word “soft” is a misinterpretation. In societies like ours, females are raised brainwashed into believing that males are the stronger gender. I concede that but this protection from physically strong man is no longer necessary. During the period, beginning with the Neanderthal and up to the beginning of the 20th century when the family was firm, this was necessary. It no longer is since the family is not threatened physically by someone from another tribe. If you consider a man who does laundry and helps with the family feeding and housework while his spouse must enter the financial world is soft, you’re living in the wrong era. But then, as I stated before, you’ve been brainwashed. In addition, you Righties are still stuck in the wrong generation and are always trying to “get back” to the old ways. Civilization must progress or it dies.
& You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.
** Please read my last paragraph.
& You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.
** Please re-read my last paragraph.
& You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.
** This government has been out of control for the last 30 – 40 years.
& You created "us" the silent majority.
** I see how silent you really are.
& You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.
** Perhaps you never counted the unarmed black people who were killed by your very honest cops.
& You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.
** Of course you don’t want to recall the context and conditions those words come from. President Obama was initially attempting to put through the precursor to single pay. He had to sacrifice much just to get the ACA passed at all. Look at what is happening in Congress now.
& You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.
** I have been under the impression that the majority of corporations are owned and run by Conservatives. It seems that those corporations – including the insurance companies – had a great part in demanding some considerations. At least he got them to the point of accepting pre-existing illnesses. It is the insurance companies who made the decisions regarding which doctors they supported.
& You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.
** Have all, or only a few Democrats decided to display their disappointment with the manner in which our country has been run over the past 30 – 40 years. That’s called passive resistance.
& You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.
** President Obama presented the “beginning steps” toward single payer insurance for all. Sadly, in order to get this bill passed, he had to compromise. If you’ve done your homework, the insurance companies had a very large part in including their demands.
& And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".
** AND like your leader, you’re whining.




,

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Apr 22, 2017 19:06:56   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Alicia wrote:
***********************************
This response has been technically difficult. I do hope you'll excuse some of the typos(?)

I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....
& I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.
** It has been accepted that the Democratic loss was due to the candidate not having a policy stand.
& In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.
** We are not posting things about Trump followers. Trump raised the degree of bias and allowed those so biased to follow through with actions – “because the president does.” It’s so much easier to blame your problems on a minority (any minority) than to search for a solution.
& Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.
** We are “sick” about the result. Please note how your candidate is doing in the Oval Office thus far. He hasn’t succeeded in ANY of his promises. He IS NOT living up to his promises to his followers. When he fails, he is always blaming anyone besides himself. Can’t you see that he is blaming Democrats for now going along with his attempted takedown of the ACA. Did he not realize that Democrats would fight him? Many Republicans also voted against repeal without replacement.
& How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!
& You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.
** Who is attempting to do away with freedom of speech by attacking all news outlets except FOX?
& You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.
** We are not against bearing arms but the Constitution does include the phrase “for an organized militia.” It does not OK everyone owning an arsenal.
& You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.
** Beg to differ but there are many Democratic Christians. The Democrats and Independents certainly believe in “separation of church and state” and definitely do believe that religions should not be a force in politics. The Evangelicals are constantly attempting to include their religious beliefs and enforce them on the rest of the populace.
& You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.
** Racist is a hard label to accept. It takes some honest introspection.
& You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.
** See above.
& You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.
** The Republicans have been in the way of any progress this country needs to make (note: climate change.) The rest of the world believes it. Their insistence of it being a hoax (and note: Trump believes that climate change was created by China – that is until he had chocolate cake with the Chinese president.. Can you name anything at all that the Republicans have done for the good of this country? Name one!
& You created "us" when you attacked our flag.
** Please note that in the 60s or 70s flag burning was decided as an expression of “freedom of speech” by the Supreme Court.
& You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.
** God and religious teachings belong in homes or religious institutions. Schools should be interested only in knowledge of this nation and loyalty to it and how it’s run. There should be taught the contents of our Constitution. By the way, which god, aside from the Christian god, would you find allowable in our schools. I believe that ALL religions should be taught in schools; at least the five great religions of the world in a course designed for that purpose.
& You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.
** It is sad that human rights must entail women’s rights. Most women (and feminists) are only asking to be treated like “a person.” On health issues, who would know more about what is good for the woman? Men, who have messed up the world so far are afraid, as they always have been, of women with brains. It’s been proven scientifically that the female brain is much better at multitasking than the males. The problem lies with the manner in which males are raised; why can’t they cry; why must they conceal their emotions. The only one they are able to show are those connected with mating. It has also been proven scientifically and sociologically that, when times are tough, men fight whereas women join together to look for solutions that would improve the situation and bring about peace.
Throughout history it has been proven that societies led by women remain helpful to each other and gain their strength through understanding.
In addition, having gone through childbirth, women are less prone toward destroying their own creations. They really don’t have anything to “prove.” Who created the idea of “carrying on” a surname? Certainly not women!
Years ago I read a book, “Circle of Stones.” Can’t recall the author’s name at the moment but it is a professor of anthropology in a California university. It made quite an impression and produced greater understanding for me. There is one instance when a mother of two (one still nursing) come upon a male and, having been told that males are known to kill children and (like some cats) kill the young. The woman sends the older child to run away and, in order to calm the male, simply bends over. I’m sure you will laugh at this but, think – has the male population changed very much?
The reason there is so much difficulty in accepting those of the opposite gender simply as “a person” is that it is accepted that in order to be considered strong, a female must adopt male attitudes. I do recall an era where it was impossible to purchase a suit with a skirt.
& You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.
** The word “emasculate” was created by men. As males do have control over the other mammals on this earth, they still need those of the opposite gender to also be subservient.
I’m sorry, dear, but this is a societal problem.
& You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.
** I think your definition of the word “soft” is a misinterpretation. In societies like ours, females are raised brainwashed into believing that males are the stronger gender. I concede that but this protection from physically strong man is no longer necessary. During the period, beginning with the Neanderthal and up to the beginning of the 20th century when the family was firm, this was necessary. It no longer is since the family is not threatened physically by someone from another tribe. If you consider a man who does laundry and helps with the family feeding and housework while his spouse must enter the financial world is soft, you’re living in the wrong era. But then, as I stated before, you’ve been brainwashed. In addition, you Righties are still stuck in the wrong generation and are always trying to “get back” to the old ways. Civilization must progress or it dies.
& You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.
** Please read my last paragraph.
& You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.
** Please re-read my last paragraph.
& You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.
** This government has been out of control for the last 30 – 40 years.
& You created "us" the silent majority.
** I see how silent you really are.
& You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.
** Perhaps you never counted the unarmed black people who were killed by your very honest cops.
& You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.
** Of course you don’t want to recall the context and conditions those words come from. President Obama was initially attempting to put through the precursor to single pay. He had to sacrifice much just to get the ACA passed at all. Look at what is happening in Congress now.
& You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.
** I have been under the impression that the majority of corporations are owned and run by Conservatives. It seems that those corporations – including the insurance companies – had a great part in demanding some considerations. At least he got them to the point of accepting pre-existing illnesses. It is the insurance companies who made the decisions regarding which doctors they supported.
& You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.
** Have all, or only a few Democrats decided to display their disappointment with the manner in which our country has been run over the past 30 – 40 years. That’s called passive resistance.
& You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.
** President Obama presented the “beginning steps” toward single payer insurance for all. Sadly, in order to get this bill passed, he had to compromise. If you’ve done your homework, the insurance companies had a very large part in including their demands.
& And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".
** AND like your leader, you’re whining.
,
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Dear Lady, if ever I heard whining it is from you.

I am a woman, a very confident, capable woman. I was married to a jerk, divorced him, never received child support (while he went through several more marriages). I worked full time, part time, and sold Avon on the side to support my two children, and NEVER sought welfare.

When my daughter was a teenager, she wanted to meet her dad. I contacted him through his father who had maintained a relationship with us. I told him he had to send her the money for plane fare, he didn't send enough (not surprising), but since she wanted to meet him - I paid the difference.

You have pissed me off, so the next time before you assume, remember how the word breaks down ass-u-me. It not necessary for me to have to write a long diatribe, like yours, to convey my feelings.

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Apr 22, 2017 21:38:14   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
BearK wrote:
Dear Lady, if ever I heard whining it is from you.

I am a woman, a very confident, capable woman. I was married to a jerk, divorced him, never received child support (while he went through several more marriages). I worked full time, part time, and sold Avon on the side to support my two children, and NEVER sought welfare.

When my daughter was a teenager, she wanted to meet her dad. I contacted him through his father who had maintained a relationship with us. I told him he had to send her the money for plane fare, he didn't send enough (not surprising), but since she wanted to meet him - I paid the difference.

You have pissed me off, so the next time before you assume, remember how the word breaks down ass-u-me. It not necessary for me to have to write a long diatribe, like yours, to convey my feelings.
Dear Lady, if ever I heard whining it is from you.... (show quote)


Excellent response but probably way over Alicias head. You represent the half of us who are women, and do it well.

SWMBO

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Apr 23, 2017 07:02:19   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Excellent response but probably way over Alicias head. You represent the half of us who are women, and do it well.

SWMBO


Thanks SWMBO, we know the difference between spoiled, self centered feminists, and being feminine.

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Apr 23, 2017 09:03:23   #
bahmer
 
BearK wrote:
Dear Lady, if ever I heard whining it is from you.

I am a woman, a very confident, capable woman. I was married to a jerk, divorced him, never received child support (while he went through several more marriages). I worked full time, part time, and sold Avon on the side to support my two children, and NEVER sought welfare.

When my daughter was a teenager, she wanted to meet her dad. I contacted him through his father who had maintained a relationship with us. I told him he had to send her the money for plane fare, he didn't send enough (not surprising), but since she wanted to meet him - I paid the difference.

You have pissed me off, so the next time before you assume, remember how the word breaks down ass-u-me. It not necessary for me to have to write a long diatribe, like yours, to convey my feelings.
Dear Lady, if ever I heard whining it is from you.... (show quote)


Excellent BearK and very well put thank you.

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May 7, 2017 22:44:56   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Alicia wrote:
***********************************
This response has been technically difficult. I do hope you'll excuse some of the typos(?)

I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....
& I'm noticing that some folks aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.
** It has been accepted that the Democratic loss was due to the candidate not having a policy stand.
& In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those of us who voted for Trump.
** We are not posting things about Trump followers. Trump raised the degree of bias and allowed those so biased to follow through with actions – “because the president does.” It’s so much easier to blame your problems on a minority (any minority) than to search for a solution.
& Some of you are apparently "triggered" because you are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.
** We are “sick” about the result. Please note how your candidate is doing in the Oval Office thus far. He hasn’t succeeded in ANY of his promises. He IS NOT living up to his promises to his followers. When he fails, he is always blaming anyone besides himself. Can’t you see that he is blaming Democrats for now going along with his attempted takedown of the ACA. Did he not realize that Democrats would fight him? Many Republicans also voted against repeal without replacement.
& How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!
& You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.
** Who is attempting to do away with freedom of speech by attacking all news outlets except FOX?
& You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.
** We are not against bearing arms but the Constitution does include the phrase “for an organized militia.” It does not OK everyone owning an arsenal.
& You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.
** Beg to differ but there are many Democratic Christians. The Democrats and Independents certainly believe in “separation of church and state” and definitely do believe that religions should not be a force in politics. The Evangelicals are constantly attempting to include their religious beliefs and enforce them on the rest of the populace.
& You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.
** Racist is a hard label to accept. It takes some honest introspection.
& You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.
** See above.
& You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.
** The Republicans have been in the way of any progress this country needs to make (note: climate change.) The rest of the world believes it. Their insistence of it being a hoax (and note: Trump believes that climate change was created by China – that is until he had chocolate cake with the Chinese president.. Can you name anything at all that the Republicans have done for the good of this country? Name one!
& You created "us" when you attacked our flag.
** Please note that in the 60s or 70s flag burning was decided as an expression of “freedom of speech” by the Supreme Court.
& You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.
** God and religious teachings belong in homes or religious institutions. Schools should be interested only in knowledge of this nation and loyalty to it and how it’s run. There should be taught the contents of our Constitution. By the way, which god, aside from the Christian god, would you find allowable in our schools. I believe that ALL religions should be taught in schools; at least the five great religions of the world in a course designed for that purpose.
& You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.
** It is sad that human rights must entail women’s rights. Most women (and feminists) are only asking to be treated like “a person.” On health issues, who would know more about what is good for the woman? Men, who have messed up the world so far are afraid, as they always have been, of women with brains. It’s been proven scientifically that the female brain is much better at multitasking than the males. The problem lies with the manner in which males are raised; why can’t they cry; why must they conceal their emotions. The only one they are able to show are those connected with mating. It has also been proven scientifically and sociologically that, when times are tough, men fight whereas women join together to look for solutions that would improve the situation and bring about peace.
Throughout history it has been proven that societies led by women remain helpful to each other and gain their strength through understanding.
In addition, having gone through childbirth, women are less prone toward destroying their own creations. They really don’t have anything to “prove.” Who created the idea of “carrying on” a surname? Certainly not women!
Years ago I read a book, “Circle of Stones.” Can’t recall the author’s name at the moment but it is a professor of anthropology in a California university. It made quite an impression and produced greater understanding for me. There is one instance when a mother of two (one still nursing) come upon a male and, having been told that males are known to kill children and (like some cats) kill the young. The woman sends the older child to run away and, in order to calm the male, simply bends over. I’m sure you will laugh at this but, think – has the male population changed very much?
The reason there is so much difficulty in accepting those of the opposite gender simply as “a person” is that it is accepted that in order to be considered strong, a female must adopt male attitudes. I do recall an era where it was impossible to purchase a suit with a skirt.
& You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.
** The word “emasculate” was created by men. As males do have control over the other mammals on this earth, they still need those of the opposite gender to also be subservient.
I’m sorry, dear, but this is a societal problem.
& You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.
** I think your definition of the word “soft” is a misinterpretation. In societies like ours, females are raised brainwashed into believing that males are the stronger gender. I concede that but this protection from physically strong man is no longer necessary. During the period, beginning with the Neanderthal and up to the beginning of the 20th century when the family was firm, this was necessary. It no longer is since the family is not threatened physically by someone from another tribe. If you consider a man who does laundry and helps with the family feeding and housework while his spouse must enter the financial world is soft, you’re living in the wrong era. But then, as I stated before, you’ve been brainwashed. In addition, you Righties are still stuck in the wrong generation and are always trying to “get back” to the old ways. Civilization must progress or it dies.
& You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.
** Please read my last paragraph.
& You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.
** Please re-read my last paragraph.
& You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.
** This government has been out of control for the last 30 – 40 years.
& You created "us" the silent majority.
** I see how silent you really are.
& You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.
** Perhaps you never counted the unarmed black people who were killed by your very honest cops.
& You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.
** Of course you don’t want to recall the context and conditions those words come from. President Obama was initially attempting to put through the precursor to single pay. He had to sacrifice much just to get the ACA passed at all. Look at what is happening in Congress now.
& You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.
** I have been under the impression that the majority of corporations are owned and run by Conservatives. It seems that those corporations – including the insurance companies – had a great part in demanding some considerations. At least he got them to the point of accepting pre-existing illnesses. It is the insurance companies who made the decisions regarding which doctors they supported.
& You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.
** Have all, or only a few Democrats decided to display their disappointment with the manner in which our country has been run over the past 30 – 40 years. That’s called passive resistance.
& You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.
** President Obama presented the “beginning steps” toward single payer insurance for all. Sadly, in order to get this bill passed, he had to compromise. If you’ve done your homework, the insurance companies had a very large part in including their demands.
& And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
With ballots, not riots.
With ballots, not looting.
With ballots, not blocking traffic.
With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us".

"YOU" created "US".
** AND like your leader, you’re whining.




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PREACH ON, Alicia! PREACH ON!!

I'm never surprised to read comments like the OP from the followers of the "Whiner-In-Chief." We didn't create them. They created themselves. They created themselves by following a mentally and emotionally unfit person who wanted and got power by convincing them that all their ills and discomforts were the result of others. These "others" were different from the majority of people in this country. They were "aliens." They were the worst of the worst. They were here to do us harm. They were here to take away our rights, our government and our way of life.

This is the same way Hitler came to power. The difference was that Hitler blamed the Jews and any other group who happened to be non-Aryans. Then again, as an example, I seem to remember several posters on here blaming illegal immigrants from taking jobs away from Americans. They failed to say anything about the illegals being here at the behest of American farmers, ranchers and contractors because the American farmers, ranchers and contractors can't find "regular Americans" willing to do the hard work for the pay they offer. Then, the complainers say that the illegals keep the wages low. No they don't. The people doing the hiring offer the same pay to everyone. Where they save money is in not paying low wages. It's in their not paying the payroll taxes on the illegal employees they hire because they don't keep records.

As to the "war on religion," from everything I see and hear, it's the Christian evangelicals who demean people of other religions, but their own. Hence, from my POV, it's the evangelical Christians who are warring on other religions. I haven't seen or heard about the first Jew or Muslim demanding that Christians quit worshipping. I have seen and heard of Christians wanting to refuse mosques from being built in their towns. Murfreesboro, Tennessee, comes to my mind as an example of that mindset. Where I live, a mosque was burned down because, simply, it was a mosque. So much for the admonition from Christ to His followers, "... love thy neighbor as thyself ... ." I supppose that only holds true on Sunday mornings. Once one leaves the church building anything goes; and, if done in the name of God, it's really okay. Onward Christian Soldiers!!!

As a Christian, myself, I can attest to the fact that no one has ever tried to prevent me from praying in school, in public or anywhere else. No one has threatened me because of my religious beliefs; nor has anyone burned down any of the churches I've attended or tried to prevent me from participating in the building a church. I suppose that's because one of my blessings from God is that some crazy, Christian evangelical hasn't decided that my religious beliefs aren't a threat to their myopic existence.


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May 8, 2017 09:19:20   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
alabuck wrote:
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PREACH ON, Alicia! PREACH ON!!

I'm never surprised to read comments like the OP from the followers of the "Whiner-In-Chief." We didn't create them. They created themselves. They created themselves by following a mentally and emotionally unfit person who wanted and got power by convincing them that all their ills and discomforts were the result of others. These "others" were different from the majority of people in this country. They were "aliens." They were the worst of the worst. They were here to do us harm. They were here to take away our rights, our government and our way of life.

This is the same way Hitler came to power. The difference was that Hitler blamed the Jews and any other group who happened to be non-Aryans. Then again, as an example, I seem to remember several posters on here blaming illegal immigrants from taking jobs away from Americans. They failed to say anything about the illegals being here at the behest of American farmers, ranchers and contractors because the American farmers, ranchers and contractors can't find "regular Americans" willing to do the hard work for the pay they offer. Then, the complainers say that the illegals keep the wages low. No they don't. The people doing the hiring offer the same pay to everyone. Where they save money is in not paying low wages. It's in their not paying the payroll taxes on the illegal employees they hire because they don't keep records.

As to the "war on religion," from everything I see and hear, it's the Christian evangelicals who demean people of other religions, but their own. Hence, from my POV, it's the evangelical Christians who are warring on other religions. I haven't seen or heard about the first Jew or Muslim demanding that Christians quit worshipping. I have seen and heard of Christians wanting to refuse mosques from being built in their towns. Murfreesboro, Tennessee, comes to my mind as an example of that mindset. Where I live, a mosque was burned down because, simply, it was a mosque. So much for the admonition from Christ to His followers, "... love thy neighbor as thyself ... ." I supppose that only holds true on Sunday mornings. Once one leaves the church building anything goes; and, if done in the name of God, it's really okay. Onward Christian Soldiers!!!

As a Christian, myself, I can attest to the fact that no one has ever tried to prevent me from praying in school, in public or anywhere else. No one has threatened me because of my religious beliefs; nor has anyone burned down any of the churches I've attended or tried to prevent me from participating in the building a church. I suppose that's because one of my blessings from God is that some crazy, Christian evangelical hasn't decided that my religious beliefs aren't a threat to their myopic existence.

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Amazing how you are in a position to be able to determine who is a mentally and emotionally unfit. I know you are not god, and I doubt that you are a licensed psychiatrist. Yet, you feel qualified to JUDGE another.

Convincing them that all their ills and discomforts were the result of others. It sounds to me you are talking about Obama. Alicia, if you aren't able to make yourself clear, as to whom you are referring to - it becomes a 'shoot, the skies full of pigeons, you're bound to hit something.'

I don't know how you were brought up, but I was taught that if I've gotten myself in a jam - it's MY FAULT, not someone else, not the government, there is no pie in the sky except for fools.

Not only do I know illegal's, I have hired them to do work for me. I have found them to be honest, & hard working, they are good people. Since I consider myself a Christian, I don't judge people by their color or beliefs, but by their actions. I have black friends, I have had many Mexican friends, I have Muslims friends. So don't come around with your 'holier than thou' act. Most people here have your number - if they don't believe as you do, they are stupid and misinformed. As you put it, we fall in the category with Hitler.

Good Grief, get a life!

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May 8, 2017 09:59:31   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
BearK, since you admitted to hiring illegals, you've admitted to breaking the same laws your kind hold so righteously. You need to be jailed for breaking the law!

Yet, for some reason, you seem to believe that it's the liberals who are the bain to your existence. Why is it yiunfeel it's okay to break laws and complain that the illegals are taking away the jobs from "regular Americans" and causing wages to remain low? It's your kind that want it both ways and complain when you don't get it.

Our issues with illegals are YOUR fault; yours and your kind. It's your kind that think that illegals are bringing down the country. Without you hiring them, why would they even be here?

And, it means nothing to me who you have as friends or know, personally. That you conservatives claim to be friendly to minorities yet do all you can to keep minorities down is simply hypocritical. Actions speak louder than words. Your talk isn't matched by the legislative actions of the conservative legislators. You guys need to start walking your talk. So far, you're tripping all over your feet.

Are you the same "BearK" that lived close to Crossville?

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May 8, 2017 11:11:19   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
alabuck wrote:
BearK, since you admitted to hiring illegals, you've admitted to breaking the same laws your kind hold so righteously. You need to be jailed for breaking the law!

Yet, for some reason, you seem to believe that it's the liberals who are the bain to your existence. Why is it yiunfeel it's okay to break laws and complain that the illegals are taking away the jobs from "regular Americans" and causing wages to remain low? It's your kind that want it both ways and complain when you don't get it.

Our issues with illegals are YOUR fault; yours and your kind. It's your kind that think that illegals are bringing down the country. Without you hiring them, why would they even be here?

And, it means nothing to me who you have as friends or know, personally. That you conservatives claim to be friendly to minorities yet do all you can to keep minorities down is simply hypocritical. Actions speak louder than words. Your talk isn't matched by the legislative actions of the conservative legislators. You guys need to start walking your talk. So far, you're tripping all over your feet.

Are you the same "BearK" that lived close to Crossville?
BearK, since you admitted to hiring illegals, you'... (show quote)



Since I broke the law - turn me in. I also have friends who vote as Democrats. My problem with illegal's are the ones who murder, rape, steal, and commit felonies. I have advocated that illegal's who have been here, raising their families (whose children know NO OTHER country but America), are law abiding, hard workers - some allowance and leeway should be made possible for them.

I don't know much about you, and feel you are none of my business. You maybe a liberal, so what! I don't care. I owe you nothing and I ask nothing from you. I'd appreciate it if you put forth that attitude towards me. I don't know who you are and I think I don't want to know. It appears you're a judgemental busybody.

And yes, I am the same "BearK" that lived close to Crossville.

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May 8, 2017 11:33:22   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Actually, BearK, you know more about me than you may recall. Check your OPP email archives. We communicated that way quite often in the past. Then, you said you were moving. Glad you're back!

Alabuck

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