How do you know? Are you out there counting them? No? Then how do you know they're lying?


Uh, the fact that the World Central Kitchen is an international organization that tracks their workers and the fact that those workers have families in other countries that have already been interviewed. Oh, and let's not forget the footage released by the IDF AND Israel's apology for the incident where they clearly admitted it and called it an unfortunate mistake.


Not all of us :) In fact in case you missed this, a lot of Americans sent Biden a pretty clear message during the primaries. They want him to stand up for Palestine and this sentiment is growing.

To answer your question, there's a lot Biden can do that the Arabs couldn't do. For one, he can cut the funding that Israel has been depending on for decades. Also, he can slap Israel with sanctions that would effectively bring Israel to it's knees. He can also join the rest of the world in it's condemnation of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories.

Biden really doesn't want to do these things. Unlike me, he is far more interested in continuing the "special relationship" but Netanyahu isn't making it easy.

So I'm a liar but it's not worth the effort to prove it? LOL


Well, if you had the intelligence to follow along you would notice that in most cases, I don't "discount" the opinions of others without a logical argument. So its not so much a "discounting" as it is a "deconstruction". I've noticed that you and the rest of the retards on your side are obsessed with this fact vs opinion crap. It's like NONE of you ever took a class in critical thinking. Oh wait... you probably didn't. Well, that explains a lot.


"That needs knocked on his ass?" LOL - Can you speak English or should we switch to grunts and barks?

And the whole "let's meet" thing is hilarious! Obviously you're so frustrated from being intellectually outclassed that you're resorting to the threat of physical violence. Well, that's not going to happen Pumpkin. For one, I don't want to be responsible for your hospital bills and secondly, I don't want creeps like you tracking down my family to send death threats.

So my suggestion to you is to log off, head to your garage and take it all out on that punching bag. Make sure you open the door first so the chicks on the street can see how macho you are. Ha, ha ha!

At first, perhaps... as is often the case in the heat of the moment. But since then, the more credible journalists have come to realize the same things that I pointed out and they have retracted their stories, including CNN and the NYT.


I'm not so sure. They are very desperate people and I hate to give their actions any credit but they are getting more world support now than they ever did by playing the endless diplomacy game. Keep in mind, these are people who are willing to blow themselves up for their cause. Not something a typical American can even fathom.


That might actually be a brighter future for them than surviving another day under the heinous oppression of Israel. I've seen a little bit of what they are forced to endure and to be honest I would rather be killed in a blaze of glory than suffer under Israeli occupation.


Which Israelis are you referring to? Or do you think they're all the same? Not all Israelis support the abuse of the Palestinian people. That's why Netyanyahu is being faced with protests everywhere he goes now.

If you are referring to the right-wing government led by Netanyahu, then I disagree. First of all, that government offers nothing to the American people in exchange, Secondly, I don't support governments that commit genocide.


Yes, there is. Sorry bro, but just because you don't want to accept it doesn't mean it's not happening. Israel is bombing the crap out of the entire area, they have actually targeted the water supplies AND humanitarian aid convoys. So what people aren't being killed by the bombs are being killed by starvation and disease. If that's not genocide, then the word has no meaning.


I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here but not every Palestinian is a Hamas recruit. So I hope you're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Western media rarely ever shows the human side of Palestinian life. Some people think it's because Israel tries to control that narrative - they don't want anyone to see the human side of the people they are trying to exterminate. This is why our cameras focus almost entirely on the Palestinians who ARE terrorists, so it's easy for people like us to come to these insanely prejudiced conclusions.

Also, let me remind you that any dog will turn into a snarling threat if you abuse him enough and this is just what hateful regimes do the people they persecute. People were fine with the Palestinians until the Zionists came to screw them under and abuse them. The ONLY reason why Palestinians might seem violent or intolerant is BECAUSE of the way Israel treats them.

Now, if you ARE actually referring to ALL the Palestinian people, which would make you a racist, then no further conversation is necessary. I get it... hate is hate. You really don't have to explain it.

So you are actually telling me that the difference between fact and opinion is the number of people who agree with you? I keep reading it over, hoping that you're not THAT stupid, but it looks like this exactly is what you saying.

So then during the middle ages when most people thought the Earth is flat... it was? And and any suggestion that it wasn't was just an opinion? So... now that most people think the Earth is round the fact changed? Can you please explain how the Earth managed to transform itself from a flat board to a round globe when people changed their opinations?

LOL - you're one of the fun ones. I just hope you're not really retarded 'cause I'd feel bad for laughing at you if you are.

I haven't lied yet... You just don't like what I have to say. I never said I'm an atheist either, so it looks like YOU are the one who's lying.

I'm not anti-Semitic either. Technically, the term comes from archeology and is a reference to a language group, which is the best way to categorize ancient people and culture based on inscriptions found on artifacts. The Semitic people spread from Eastern Africa to the Middle-East. Now, here's the interesting thing... The original Hebrews (Sephardic Jews) were/are indeed Semites, but so are the Arabs... ALL of them, including Palestinians. By contrast, most of the Zionist Israeli's are Ashkenazi Jews who are NOT Semitic people at all. These people hail from the Indo-European language group.

To make it easier for the racists here to understand the difference. Semites have dark eyes and dark hair. A Jew with blonde hair and blue eyes is NOT Semitic. But in the throes of ignorance and hate, we have idiots calling those who are defending Semitic Arabs, anti-Semites.

So maybe stop trying to use fancy words that you don't understand. What kind of bigot are you actually accusing me of being? anti-Jewish? Is that what you mean? No, I am not anti-Jewish. Anti-Israeli? No, I'm not anti-Israeli either. Anti-Zionist? Bingo!

So if you're going to accuse me of something, at least get your sh.t straight.

You're delusional - lol


First of all, show me a refugee who isn't looking for a better life. Maybe you're getting confused... a refugee doesn't necessarily mean a fugitive.

Secondly, I don't know who "Judicial Watch" is... for all I know, it could be an organization of dimwits. Also there are thousands migrants... are you seriously going to tell me that Judicial Watch has enough people and money to interview every migrant out there?

Thirdly, I have a close friend who works for the RC church in New York and she is dealing with immigrants everyday. I have met some of them and yes, some of them ARE refugees. So forgive me for not bowing to the awesome authority of "Judicial Watch" but what they are saying on the Internet and what I am witnessing first hand do NOT match.


Well that's better than what Trump was claiming when he was still in office!



According to most Republicans there are WAY more undocumented immigrants now than there was when Trump was in charge, so if there is any truth to the blabber it means that Biden is far more efficient at dealing with the issue than Trump was. Or... maybe you right-wing dingbats should get your stories straight.

Also the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration Integrity, Security, and Enforcement that came up with the $150 billion figure is dominated by election deniers, so their credibility is in question and I already see one flaw... they included the cost of welfare. I know for a fact that undocumented immigrants do not have access to welfare.


That's incredibly short-sighted, verging on complete stupidity. The sheer number of people has nothing to do with their ability to clean up their own country. You people are the first to say that America is in such bad shape and yet we are the third most populous country on Earth.


I treat all humans with the same respect until they give me a reason not to. If you're going to get all pissed off because I give the same respect to an immigrant that I give to a citizen, that's YOUR problem.

Interesting article... Not sure what your point is. It's basically a survey of opinions. And aren't you the one who said opinions are not facts?

Oh, is that a "fact"? OK, then pick any one of my so-called facts and show me where it was put out by Hamas. Since you are stating this as a fact, you must have the proof right? Let's see it.

Let's see if you can do any better than Sparky over there who insists there is video footage that proves Hamas raped and mutilated people but still can't find it.


I never said I support Hamas. I only said I understand their frustration.

It's also my opinion that anyone who is willing to turn a blind eye to Israel's slaughter of an entire population and is willing to subscribe to ANY BS story that demonizes the victims so as to justify the slaughter is the real barbarian.

Maybe you're just too stupid to understand.

YOU are the one posting the opinion that Hamas was raping and mutilating people and insisting it's a fact.
What I am doing is asking you to prove it.
Asking someone to prove something is not "unproven BS".

You sent me some links, I assume because you're too lazy or incapable to actually make a case.
I read the links and simply pointed out why they don't actually prove anything... and I even explained why.
Pointing to a lack of evidence is not "unproven BS" either.

I asked you to show me ONE video that proves your claim
You haven't done that and I'm betting you can't.
And in case you didn't know... asking for evidence is not "unproven BS" either.

Look Sparky,

Anyone can tell a fake story.
Anyone can post pictures of carnage and lie about what caused it.
I'm sorry if that's all you have. But without any testimonies from eye-witnesses, or actual videos of the events themselves or even official records related to the events, it's just not conclusive.

That's not an opinion. That's a standard practice in journalism AND law. So don't get all angry with me just because I asked you for proof that you can't find.

Why would you accuse someone of being ignorant about the world around them and then follow that with a statement that so clearly proves your own ignorance?

Islam is NOT defined by the destruction of Israel. Israel isn't even mentioned in the Koran. What the Koran DOES say is that Muslims should not be ruled by foreign kings and this is the basis for the Islamic Resistance, which is a resistance to ALL western powers trying to take control of the Middle-East which is primarily Muslim.

This includes the Anglo-American efforts to control oil in the middle-east to the point of installing puppet governments in places like Iran and Iraq and it also includes the Zionist take-over of Palestine where land was forcefully taken from Muslims and freely given to Jews from Europe and America.

Most Muslims in the region are just like people all around the world where they just want to be left alone. Many of them have already given up on seeking justice for the invasion of immigrants encouraged by the Zionists that Israel was founded on. Many of them would now be satisfied with a two-state solution.

But Israel has never wanted a two-state solution because the original plan was to take ALL of Palestine from the river to the sea... so it's the existence of Palestine that actually IS being destroyed. As part of this process, Zionist Israel is illegally occupying three territories and subjecting the Palestinian people in these territories to inhumane conditions as they continue the slow purge of Palestinian people and culture.

So it's no surprise to see factions like Hamas form and join the Islamic Resistance as a result. It's called blowback. Yes, THESE people want to destroy Israel and although I don't agree, I can't say I blame them for feeling that way.


For the Palestinians, yes... for Israel, not so much. The forces that seek the destruction of Israel are weak and have very limited support. If Israelis were as threatened as you pretend, they wouldn't be setting up fun music festivals within earshot of Gaza, where Palestinians are imprisoned and subjected to hunger and disease.


Israel has been on the top of the list for handouts ever since Carter brokered that deal in Camp David. No country in the world get's more money from the U.S. than Israel does.


Problem there is that there's no evidence that Hamas actually DID any of those things. But Israel does it to Palestinians all the time. There are thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israel that were never tried. Many of them are children. These prisoners ARE tortured routinely. They are often blindfolded and shackled to fences for days on end. Many of them have injuries caused by shackles that lead to amputations.

Basically, what you are doing here is packaging up all the inhumane actions of Israel and projecting it on the Palestinians. You're charging the victims with the crimes. And you have the gall to question the hearts of others?

LOL - You folks and your fantasies. I bet Hollywood could produce a dramatization of that fantasy and sell it you as pornography. You'd be in the bathroom all day. Ha ha ha!

What video evidence? None of your links point to ANY video evidence of rape or mutilation. You're screaming that there's all this video evidence and yet you can't even point to one.

Try it... I dare you.

So far you've listed five articles none of which present any video evidence of what you are claiming. Yes, I read those articles, I just didn't feel the need to comment on them because it would be the same comment for ALL of them... there's no evidence! It's all 100% hearsay.

Seriously, I don't know why you folks think that the "truth" can be proven by a large number of baseless accusations but it doesn't work that way. One video that proves the rapes actually occurred when and where the story says it did is all you need. So find it.


What reality? The reality that you can't prove? The reality that so far NO ONE has been able to prove?


Forensic examinations have proven that people were maimed. Reviews of Israeli operations show that many people on October 7th were maimed by "friendly-fire". Israel uses American Hellfire air-to-surface missiles to target people which can result in bodies literally being blown apart.

It turns out the dead baby that was reported to have been dismembered by Hamas terrorists was actually a bag of body parts collected from the aftermath of an Israeli Hellfire attack.

The forensic reports that I've seen claiming evidence of rape, point to things like crushed pelvic bones, which is actually more likely to happen as a result of a missile attack than a rape.


You and several others here always resort to this response when you have no argument. You just throw up your hands and say opinions are NOT facts... as if we don't know that.

What makes this a foolish response is when the person you are arguing with isn't even claiming any facts. YOU are the one insisting that these claims of rape and multination are facts. Not me. I'm the one saying that these opinions you cite lack sufficient evidence to call them facts. So if anyone should be reminding the other that his opinions are not facts, it should be me. Not you.

What is happening at the southern border is that our underfunded immigration system is being overwhelmed by refugees from places like Venezuela, where the already troubled economy collapsed under Trump's sanctions. Where American and Christian values come in is where Biden is trying to save these refugees from the inhumanity they face as a result.


Ah, yes... Canned response #214... "Don't like immigrants? Tired of liberals saying we should help them? Try asking a liberal if he's helping any of them personally. That'll shut them up."

Seriously, the lamest response possible... That's like telling someone he has no right to support the war on terrorism unless he's personally killing terrorists with own gun.

As an individual, I don't have the capacity to save all the refugees anymore than I have the capacity to wage war on international terrorism with just me, my dog and my shotgun. As an individual, I don't have the power to give immigrants the official documents they need to get legitimate jobs and start paying taxes either.

Don't be stupid. The crisis at the border is a big problem that requires the action of a big government, especially since the big government is creating the problem to start with.

I will be more than happy to see my tax dollars being spent on upgrading our immigration system to increase its capacity, save these refugees from danger and despair and help them assimilate into our society.

We already know what Trump's position on this is. When he took credit for the work his son-in-law, Jaret Kushner did to create "The Deal of the Century" aka., the Abraham Accords, it was the first so-called "peace deal" ever brokered by a U.S. president that didn't actually include any agreement between enemies.

Carter, Clinton and Obama were all involved in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian people in order to promote peace between them. Kushner left the the Palestinians completely out of the deal and negotiated a deal instead between Israel and some Gulf states that were NEVER at war with them in the first place for the purpose of opening up trade for cell phones.

Trump also excluded the Palestinian people from any negotiation when he moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and declared that Jerusalem belongs to Israel 100%, thereby dismissing a Muslim claim that goes back more than a thousand years.

When Trump was in office, he made no effort to stop Israel from cutting off the Palestinians from any and all negotiations. It was the first time in decades the Palestinians were completely shut out and it's logical to suspect that this is why Hamas went on a kidnapping spree on October 7th. To regain some leverage with which to negotiate.

We see it in the movies all the time... "Fine you don't want to negotiate? Well, maybe this will change your mind. We have your daughter."

In the short time, they were able to breech the security fence, Hamas collected hundreds of hostages. Meanwhile, all the stories of rape, mutilation and wanton murder are so far, unsubstantiated. It seems pretty clear to me that Hamas was trying to use hostages to force Israel back to the table.

So once again, dumbass Donny creates another fiasco without even realizing it.

As it turns out, it didn't work because Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostages... as proven by the fact that he is ordering airstrikes on the locations where they are suspected to be. There is also the fact that most of the hostages came from a part of southern Israel where people tend to lean left politically and have been opposing Netanyahu's hard-right political party, Likud for years.

It's hard to say what would happen if Trump were in office today. I would venture to guess he would support Netanyahu's genocide 100% WITHOUT any caution about the violations of human rights or international law. That would make the job a lot easier but it would also abandon the American and Christian values of humanity and justice that Biden is trying to defend.

It's not there is any new evidence that it didn't happen. It's that there was never any evidence that it did and people are starting to notice that.


Despite the suggestions that came with the footage, what I saw doesn't actually prove anything. Many REAL journalists and networks that took the Israeli reports as fact in the heat of the moment have since retracted their stories because the footage couldn't actually be linked to the story and there was a complete absence of testimony from ANY supposed victims or their surviving families. CNN being one example. Even Biden had to retract the narrative about systemic rapes.

In other words... there are pictures of carnage being submitted by angry people with baseless assertions about what caused the carnage.



This article starts off by saying "Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim."

So it's not video coverage of the event... It's video testimony of one person describing the event. Bear in mind that a lot of Israelis hate Palestinians with a passion so we have to expect some of them to turn a kidnapping spree into an orgy of rape and carnage. And a REAL journalist already knows that you can't rely on one source.

None of the photos in the article show any evidence of rape or mutilation. One is a photo of the woman who single-handedly made the case to the Israeli authorities based on her unproven story and some photos of mutilations. That's Dr Cochav Elkayam-Levy, who was actually awarded by the Israeli government for her "work" in presenting her story... which helped Israel gain popular support for the genocide.

It turns out that some her her photos were of Kurdish women after being attacked by ISIS and this is what lead Israeli journalists to investigate her claim further, realizing that there is a complete lack of data to support her claims.

From the moment the story broke, the Associated Press had noted that the story “did not specify the number of cases it had documented or identify any victims, even anonymously” and that its authors “declined to say whether they had spoken to victims,”

Ynet, the media outlet affiliated with Yedioth Ahronoth has also questioned the source noting that Elkayam-Levy has conned Jewish donors and channeled the money into her personal bank account. Elkayam-Levy has also appealed for $8 million to fund her “civil commission”.

Members of Congress turned to people who work with Israel and asked what this was about – did Israel create a commission?” The answer? No. Elkayam-Levy apparently just started calling herself the "civil commission" and the money was going to her personal accounts.

Israel’s Channel 13 has also questioned Elkayam-Levy’s credibility. The NYT has retracted everything they said based on her story and all the media networks are now distancing themselves from her.

Look, we just had a Congresswoman deliver a response to the State of the Union that included a story of a 12-year old girl being trafficked as part of her attack on Biden's immigration policy. it turned out the event occurred in Mexico when Bush was still the U.S. president and had NOTHING to do with Biden's policies.

We need to understand that isolated story-tellers in a world of hate can't be relied upon as indisputable evidence. If the rapes and beheadings were real, there would have been data. Even if the victims were killed, their families would have filed reports. The government agencies dealing with the bodies would have filed reports. The hospitals dealing with survivors would have filed reports. And yet, there are NO such reports.

I was going to dive into the other articles too, but this first one is sufficient enough to make my point.