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Apr 15, 2024 17:51:43   #
billlingle wrote:
They are not allowed to vote and they don't. That was proven over the 61 court cases brought by the clowns trying to prove voter fraud after Fat Donny got his butt kicked in 2020.

Immigrants have been the source of the population of the US since day one and are the reason that the US is the nation that it is today. The nation is comprised of citizens and non citizens. Citizens select the nation's leaders and non citizens, if they want to vote, have procedures, rules and regulations with which they must comply over an appreciable length of time to gain citizenship. There are millions of residents in the US who have been here for most of their lives who do not vote because they are simply ineligible.
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Well stated, my friend.

Cue the responses from right-wing fanatics that will swear all 61 court cases were orchestrated by Marxists. LOL
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Apr 15, 2024 17:42:09   #
padremike wrote:
Until your Leftist liars sanitized it the legal term was "Criminal Illegal Aliens."

Whether that's true or not doesn't even matter. If it's not the legal term now, it's not the legal term, period.

What I find very interesting is how unglued people get when anyone suggests it's incorrect to call them "illegals". Stewardesses are now flight-attendants, janitors are now sanitation-engineers. Some people laugh at the changes but no one is really bothered by them, but bigots blow gaskets when they are told to refer to immigrants that did not get legal documentation as "undocumented". It's like they so badly want to call them "illegals" that they will kill anyone that stands in the way.

Obviously, this goes much deeper than legal language. This level of insistence is not even logical, it's fanatical and obviously driven by hatred and bigotry.

padremike wrote:

Intelligent loving parents are not sending their children to the Leftists re-education centers known as liberal (Marxist) Universities, choosing instead more traditional schools such as Hillsdale.

We let our kids chose their own destiny. That's called freedom. Obviously, that's not something you ever thought about since you made the assumption that it's always a matter of where parent SEND their "children". Typical conservative tyranny.

Or maybe in your case, it's out of necessity because you were probably too busy TELLING them what to do and what to believe that you never gave them a chance to learn how to think for themselves.

And by the way, Hillsdale has a liberal arts program, so I guess you got punked. LOL

Seriously, universities have ALWAYS been liberal, going all the way back to Aristotle. There have always been two kinds of education, the kind where people are taught what they need to be useful workers and the kind where people are taught how to think for themselves. The term for the later is "liberal arts" and it used to be the ONLY type of program in a university, back when you didn't go to college just to be a cog in the machine.

The only reason why it seems there are more liberal influence in the colleges today is because more people are actually going to college now than ever before.

This is the situation Nixon was contemplating 50 years ago when his campaign realized there were too many college educated citizens to fool them with nefarious policies. The solution was to appeal to the religious, because there is one thing that can trump logic and that's dogma. That's why Nixon became the first president to carry a Bible around with him.

padremike wrote:

Are your boys so radicalized already that sending them to Berkley would be too far to the right for you?

It's "Berkeley", not "Berkley" and the school doesn't offer the programs my kids (1 son, 1 daughter) were interested in. It also has an 11% acceptance rate. My son's girlfriend went there (her GPA was 4.0)
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Apr 15, 2024 16:38:45   #
JFlorio wrote:
Blah, blah, blah. You're such a little Karen. Grow up. America is not better off since mush brain Biden took over. the world is not better off since biden took over. You are a foolish little sheeple.

Insults and baseless generalizations aside, here's some actual data.

Since Biden took office...
Personal income increased $66.5 billion.
Disposable personal income (DPI)—personal income less personal current taxes—increased $50.3 billion.
Consumer spending increased $145.5 billion.
Personal saving was $745.7 billion and the personal saving rate—personal saving as a percentage of disposable personal income—was 3.6 percent in February.
Personal outlays—the sum of personal consumption expenditures (PCE), personal interest payments, and personal current transfer payments—increased $149.9 billion.

https://www.bea.gov/data/income-saving/personal-income

These factors may or may not have much or anything to do with Biden OR Trump, but they do present a battery of statistics that indicate people should be doing better now than they were under Trump.
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Apr 15, 2024 16:14:22   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
2007-08 has nothing to do with your diagram.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make here but just because 2007 isn't labeled in the chart doesn't mean it's data point is not there. I'm hoping you at least know that 2007 is in-between 2004 and 2008.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

Assuming it's valid, it simply illustrates the decades long swing toward the left by college profs who have grown up being indoctrinated themselves.

Reports on this pattern are constantly being published with consistent results and they are always disputed by those on the right that don't want to accept the possibility that they could be the dimwits of the country and guess what? It's always the same line... indoctrination. It's all you have. There is no data or logic that you can use to disprove the pattern, so you simply call it indoctrination.

I work with engineers who got their degrees in science and mathematics. Not political science - physical science. There's no room for "indoctrination" in physics and yet, these engineers are predominately left-leaning.

Also, it appears you didn't catch my point about immigrants from Europe and Asia that naturalize and vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats. These people were educated in Europe and Asia, not here. So are you going to tell me there's a CIA plot to staff all the schools in Europe and Asia with liberal-indoctrinated professors?

I realize its the ONLY comeback you have but no... It's got nothing to do with indoctrination and everything to do with mental capacity. In general, those with the mental capacity to earn masters degrees also have the mental capacity to know Republicans are run by scammers and supported by idiots.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

That's what happens when you allow the left to take charge in educating your kids.

The ONLY reason why it seems the left has taken over education is because the right is abandoning it. And that's because the leaders on the right, don't want you to be educated enough to realize they're screwing you.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

It doesn't start in colleges but that's where it leads and and hopefully will take a swing back the other way when these indoctrinated youth hit the real world and realize what they are up against as a result of leftist programs.

Leftist programs have been around for longer than a century. They were at their apex during the 40's 50's and 60's, a period that you numbskulls keep referring to as the days when America was great. Right-wing attacks on these programs started in the 70's and really kicked in during the 80s. Here's what we've seen since then... stagnant wages, wealth concentration in the top 1%, outsourcing jobs and the disappearance of the single-income family.

So if you really want to make America great again, all you really have to do is follow the road back to the left instead of being suckered into conceding yet more freedom and power to the plutocrats that have been fleecing you since Reagan.
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Apr 15, 2024 12:05:54   #
debeda wrote:
Do you think tax paying citizens should work their azzez off to feed, house, clothe, educate, medicate and coddle illegal aliens who don't belong here at the expense of American citizens?

If you are referring to undocumented immigrants, then no and I already said that. I even explained why... because I believe in meritocracy. I also pointed out that this Chicken-Little-Sky-is-Falling fear mongering is BS. Not one cent of federal taxes is spent on undocumented immigrants.

Some cities have decided to help them but these tend to be the cities where the people are in favor of helping them. Charities have also helped them because many charities, including those run by churches actually believe in helping those in need. Not everyone in America is a selfish, racist POS.

debeda wrote:

You're dimmer than I thought🤪🤪

As if you actually think - LOL
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Apr 15, 2024 11:54:19   #
debeda wrote:
You are incredibly brainwashed. It's really sad

I think it's funny as hell that someone who is so brainwashed by hate speech is calling ME brainwashed. LOL
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Apr 15, 2024 11:52:48   #
debeda wrote:
If you knew or read US law, illegal alien is the proper term for border jumpers.

I DO know and read US law... That's how I know that "illegal alien" is not a legal term. You obviously don't.

I tell ya what. Why don't you show me the law that actually uses that term? 'Think you can do that?
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Apr 15, 2024 11:49:52   #
padremike wrote:
"First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented." Stupid bastard!

When the only response once can muster is "stupid bastard!" it tells me that the person is infuriated with his own intellectual limits.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:44:03   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
The terms documented and undocumented are the inventions of our progressive, politically correct government or movement.

They are legal terms. If you have a problem with legal terms that you think were influenced by progressive lawmakers, well that's your problem.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

The term illegal alien has been pushed out so as not to cast negative aspersions on those who break laws.

The term, "illegal alien" is hardly pushed out. It's a VERY popular term among the bigots in right-wing media. But it was NEVER a legal term.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

Seems like the term undocumented might be giving way to the new term "newcomers" although that has gotten so much criticism as being ridiculous that it may not last.

Yeah, "newcomers" don't make much sense because some people live here for decades as documented immigrants.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

You tell us what you believe or don't believe but what about what the Constitution says. Does it say one must have a legitimate job in order to legally vote?

No, I never suggested it did. I was only expressing my personal view on the matter as a believer in meritocracy.

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

You are making some pretty broad statements about conspiracy theories and how well-educated people should be Democrats or they just aren't worth anything. Would you possibly consider re-reading you statements and giving them a bit more thought?

I would suggest YOU re-read my statements because I never actually said that "well-educated people should be Democrats or they just aren't worth anything." All I said was that well-educated people in the middle-class tend not to vote Republican anymore.

There's plenty of research out there to support that generalization and political analysts in the GOP have even raised this issue as a concern.

This is from NBC News... The article is titled... "GOP faces massive realignment as it sheds college-educated voters"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-faces-massive-realignment-it-sheds-college-educated-voters-n1264425



Notice how it wasn't until 2008 that we started to see this divide. This is why I said they don't vote Republican *anymore*.

Personally, I don't think education has changed much in the years since. I think what we see here is evidence that the Republican Party has become more ridiculous and extreme and educated Americans just aren't buying it anymore.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:02:28   #
padremike wrote:
I've yet to find a single one of your leftist women who aren't crazier than the proverbial schit house rat.

I'm sure you have, probably every day. Every time you see a woman in a professional capacity, such as a doctor, or a CEO or a marine biologist there's an exceedingly good chance she is left-leaning, but most people don't talk politics while in a professional capacity, so you wouldn't know.

padremike wrote:

What the bloody hell is wrong with all of you?

There's nothing wrong. We just just tend to be rational, rather than simply subscribing to someone else's assertions without question and that really pisses you off.

padremike wrote:

There isn't a combined thimble full of common sense and balance amongst all of you. What is it that makes you so stupid?

WTF do you know about common sense?

padremike wrote:

Does your advocacy for killing babies kill your conscience, your soul, and make you all shun Truth and goodness like it's a plague?

You're the one supporting the killing of babies, not us. For instance, it's the right-wing that supports Israel's slaughter of babies in cold blood in Gaza. It's also the Republican attack on state-funded support programs like food stamps and accessible health-care that kill babies through malnutrition and disease.

If you're referring to abortion, that's the practice of terminating the development of embryos. Embryos are not babies. Embryos turn into babies ONLY if they are allowed to develop. You morons are insisting that embryos ARE babies in an effort to win a political fight and establish a tyranny of state control.

Anyway, it's time for breakfast, I'm going to make some scrambled eggs... Oh wait, excuse me... scrambled chickens. LOL
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Apr 15, 2024 10:37:51   #
Radar OReilly wrote:
Good post straightUp

Thanks... Yeah, I just don't have much tolerance for all this entitlement BS. I am a believer in meritocracy and when I see people working their assess off and paying taxes it doesn't matter to me if they are citizens or not, I think they deserve a voice. By the same token, I don't think someone leaching off the system deserves a voice simply because they were born here.
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Apr 15, 2024 10:22:40   #
proud republican wrote:
First of all I do NOT hate immigrants

That's what you say, but your rants prove otherwise.

proud republican wrote:

since my family immigrated here from Soviet Union LEGALLY.. I support immigrants who come here LEGALLY..

That's what most bigots say to sanitize their hatred. They want to keep as many immigrants out as possible because they hate them but they let a few of them in "legally" so they can tell everyone that it's not about hate, it's about a respect for the law.

proud republican wrote:

You know NOTHING about me and why I support who I support, so I suggest you move on!

You tell us all the time who you support and why. Even your handle... "Proud Republican" tells us a lot about you. And it doesn't matter anyway. This isn't about YOU. This is about what you post. So, keep posting your hateful bigotry and I'll keep exposing them for what they are. Deal with it.
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Apr 15, 2024 10:01:54   #
proud republican wrote:
Bull crap!! They're here illegally..that means they're ILLEGAL MIGRANTS!!..

The fact is simple enough for anyone with a clear mind to understand. It's not against the law to BE here. It's only against the law to cross the border without permission.

I'll use a simple analogy to illustrate how ridiculous your claim is.

If you are driving to work at 50 mph on a road that has a posted speed limit of 40 mph. It means you broke the law getting to work. But there is no actual law that says you can't BE at work.

I KNOW you have broken the law at some point... we all have. You either rolled through a stop sign, went a little over the speed limit. Maybe you even ate pickles in Trenton on a Sunday (which is actually illegal) But does that make you an illegal person? Of course not. This is precisely why the law does NOT refer to undocumented immigrants as "illegals".

But like I said, your post isn't about the law, it's about your bigotry and for that it makes all the sense in the world to call them "illegals" or if you're like Trump, you don't even have to stop there... You can all them murders and rapists and "bad people" from shit-hole countries. Whatever you think will demonize them and promote your hatred and racism.
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Apr 15, 2024 09:40:40   #
proud republican wrote:
Should illegal aliens be able to vote in local or general elections???

First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented. It's hard to tell anymore if people are being derogatory or just too ignorant to know any better. But I don't mind correcting them every single time.

Secondly, no. I don't think undocumented aliens should be able to vote for one very simple reason. They don't have legitimate jobs that siphon taxes from their earnings. I think the right to vote should be based on their contributions not some idiot status that doesn't really mean anything. That means that I don't think those lazy, good-for-nothing people who don't work or prefer to steal but have citizenship simply because they were born here should have a right to vote either. Being born here doesn't mean shit. Most of the rats and fleas in America were born here too. That's how senseless it is to grant someone a privilege, simply because of where they were born.

As for undocumented immigrants, they are not currently allowed to vote and there's no plans to make that happen either. So, it's really not a problem. You might THINK it is if you believe the conspiracy theories.

Do the Democrats depend votes from undocumented immigrants? No. That's what the losers on the right want you think but it's simply not true. The nugget of truth that might be spawning this conspiracy theory is that Democrats do get a lot of support from naturalized citizens... These are the documented immigrants that took the extra step to become citizens. Most of these immigrants didn't cross the southern border. Most of them flew here from Europe and Asia with visas to take highly paid jobs for which they are better qualified than many American victims of failed systems like homeschooling.

It just fits in with the widely observed truth that well-educated people in the middle-class don't vote Republican anymore.
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Apr 15, 2024 09:07:42   #
Wolf counselor wrote:
Howdy Ya'll

It's been a while since I've posted on OPP.

It's because I've been having too much fun on an extended vacation with my Angel

It started with a few weeks at my Uncle's mountain compound in the Mojave desert and from there we literally went wandering.

It was one hell of an adventure and I'll likely post a thread or two about the experience.

We got back home yesterday and the drive as we neared home was painted in an explosion of wildflowers.

My Angel loves that kind of stuff and it made for a perfect welcome to home sweet home.

Today I woke up to the news of all the current crap going on in this wretched world and I told my Angel that we should just go back on vacation and stay there.

I then remembered that I can always go to my friends and enemies on OPP and parade my toxic masculinity in the form of voicing my personal opinion.

So without further adieu , I say that this once great country we call America, would most definitely return to and then go on to exceed far beyond its long lost glory, if we could just get rid of these damned Queers, Blacks And Democrats.

Until next time...........................................Happy Trails my buckaroos
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I'm glad you had fun in the Mojave Desert... It's a beautiful desert and a wonderful retreat from the nasty world. It's also a retreat from the civilized world, normal culture and some think, the law. That place is the home of many meth labs, religious cults and human traffickers.

Since you are a self-admitted racist, unwilling to be part of a civilized society, maybe you should check in with a realtor there.
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