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Apr 18, 2014 08:47:23   #
hprinze wrote:
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Your statement is typical of the propaganda written by "historians" from the winning side, parroted by the news media, Hollywood, and taught as fact by the government schools. It's sad trhat you are sincere in what you said, because you are repeating the lies and propaganda you have been taught and brainwashed with for your entire life..

I posted some facts gained by a lot of years of study and research. I will repeat it here..


The war was about money.

The feds collected a 23% import tax on the southern seaports, but not on the northern ports. Because the south exported cotton and other crops to Europe and bought machinery, especially ag equipment, the ships would be carrying revenue cargo both directions. This caused many Europran ships to bypass northern ports because there was not a market for European goods and no export cargo from northern ports. The federal government collected 75% of its total revenue from the south and spent 90% in the north. Congress passed the Morrill Tariff which increased the tax to 43%. That is when the southern states, led by South Carolina, began to secede.

When asked by Secretary of State Seward why not let the south go in peace, Lincoln's reply was "Then I would have no money to run the government".

Slavery was not the cause of the war. There were abolutionists in the north and in the south, but they were not the cause of the war. They were merely a small number of the population..

When the war was going badly for the north and the citizens were calling for an end, England was considering entering the war on the side of the Confederacy because the U.S. was blockading southern ports and preventing the brits from trading with the Confederate States.

Britain had recently outlawed slavery there and Lincoln, being aware of that issued his phoney Emanciipation Proclaimation that did not free one single slave anywhere in the world. It specifically limited itself to areas of the south where the north had no control and exempted itself from all areas controlled by the north, whether in the north or douth.. It was a propaganda move aimed at getting sympathy from the Brits. It's a simple matter to look up and read Lincoln's first inaugration speech and his Emancipation Proclaimation. He said that he had no intention of interferring wirh slavery.

Slavery was ended in December 1865, about eight months after the end of the war. That's when the slave states of Delaware, Maryland, and Kentucky freed their slaves. Those states as well as U.S. Grant owned and kept slaves all the way through the war and until forced to free them by the 13th amendment eight months after the war's end. Grant said that if he thought the war was about slavery he would have "offered his sword to the other side".

The war killed about 600,000 people and bestowed rape, murder, looting, burning, and pillaging on several southern states.

If the war had been to end slavery, all that could have been avoided simply by outlawing slavery, instead of invading the Confederacy, a nation that only desired to be left alone ro go its own way in peace. But Lincoln conspired to try to make the south look like the agressor by planning an operation at Fort Simter. The USA and the CSA had negotiated the transfer of the military assets of the southern ports to the CSA, making payment to the USA for them. Negotiations were underway for the departure of the U.S. forces from Sumter and Lincoln promised not to try to teinforce the fort(which was actually not a fort, but a customs collection station). He sent ships carrying forces into the harbor which resulted in a few shots being fired at the fort. No one was killed, but Lincoln accomplished his purpose, claiming that the Confederacy had attacked a U.S. military reservation. which was immediately echoed by the day's news media. The naval officer who had led the theatrical incursion into Charleston harbor was promoted and given a medal by Lincoln.

As another poster noted, history is written by the winners of wars. And I might add that the government schools teach only the propaganda written by the winners.

I don't want to secede. I don't want to refight the war. I don't deny that the Confederacy lost the war.

I only wish the truth was told instead of the propaganda that has been washed into the brains of so many.
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This goes to show that there is more to life than what meets the eyes.

We need to look deeper into the things going on today if we are to understand what truly is going on.
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Apr 16, 2014 08:45:01   #
Patty wrote:
Its like the revolving door of government jobs and bankster jobs. They don't prosecute because it personally benefits them.
You might find this interesting. Much is starting to be exposed but whether it is to late to stop them or not remains unseen.
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/04/insiders-tell-all-both-the-stock-market-and-the-sec-are-rigged/


Yes it is the good old boys club. You take care of me today & I will take care of you tomorrow.

If the general public would listen closer to what is going on may be enough noise would be made that some in Washington would act on doing a few things to make the market fairer.

It is becoming clearer that we may find many more to add to our voices.

Keep on digging.
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Apr 16, 2014 07:31:57   #
Patty wrote:
Why would you mention on a public forum that you might be hiding them at your sons house. I would never bring my kids into a discussion on this matter.
You cant actually believe that the FBI Insta check list has followed the 90 day name wipe out (no kept list)over at least the last 10 years. If you bought it and had an NICS done they know it. Why would they not lie about this when they have lied about everything else.
To me it is a subject that is not open to debate. The second is one of the clearest amendments in the Bill of Rights. Any deviation from it is unacceptable and must be challenged. You are free to do what you want but more and more Fort Hood incidents will occur till the laws are changed.

quote=Floyd Brown]Again you bring up a key issue.

As I have said may times on this site I have or may have guns. They may be under a bunch of junk in my attic or my sons may have them.

That said I also have said it is no skin off my nose if you have guns.

But what I don't like is to hear from those gun owners who shout out what they have & what they do with what they have.

Because if you wish to keep your guns just keep that fact to your self & don't keep bringing up what you will do with the guns.

The bigger issue you make of this the more gun control there will be.

There are too many nuts out there waving guns around.
If you keep defending them you will only loose what you have.
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No laws were broken in getting our keeping these guns.

I am not hiding them It is that I have no use for them.

I have not been hunting in over 50 years. My sons hunt from time to time.

I don't think that I am or would be near the top of any list of people that the FBI will come looking for a couple of hunting guns.

If they are in my attic & I find them I will dispose of them. Along with a lot of other stuff up there.

I was saving it do when I retired & if I ever retire I will do it then. Other wise it will be my children who will make use of things our throw them away.
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Apr 16, 2014 07:14:34   #
Patty wrote:
Today former US Treasury official, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, warned King World News that the United States is now close to total collapse. Dr. Roberts also accused Goldman Sachs and the Fed of being totally corrupt as they desperately maneuver to try to prevent the collapse of the SWIFT payment system, and he also blasted Goldman Sachs for reiterating its call for $1,050 gold. Below is what Dr. Roberts had to say in this powerful interview.

King: “Dr. Roberts, we’ve seen Goldman Sachs reiterate their call for $1,050 gold, which has facilitated the smash on gold today. This comes on the anniversary of last year’s $200 two-day smash in gold. But Goldman is claiming gold will decline because the U.S. economy will accelerate in the second half of this year.”
Dr. Roberts: “The American economy is not going to boom because real consumer incomes have been falling, not rising. If there is no income growth then there is no credit growth either. So the U.S. economy is definitely not going to accelerate....
To hear which company has one of the highest grade gold deposits in the entire world, as well as a number of other
“I think this is just all part of keeping pressure off the dollar. This quantitative easing has done nothing for the U.S. economy except hurt it because it’s deprived everyone of interest income. This lack of interest income has caused a consumption of savings from the elderly. This is very detrimental for these people and detrimental for their heirs as well.
Also, the other day it came out that the massive amount of soybeans we ship to China have been refused. The corn we sent to China has also been refused because it was GMO tainted. So this is creating a hit to U.S. exports.

Second, there are no good paying jobs being offered in the United States -- they are just not there. The job statistics are always the same -- it’s always low-paying minimum wage stuff. These are also part time jobs, so this is not an income that supports consumer demand. The bottom line is people are really struggling.

You also have to remember that Goldman Sachs is one of the bullion banks. They are totally corrupt, and they are in league with the Fed to keep pressure off the U.S. dollar. The problem for the Fed and Goldman Sachs is that these dollar pressures could be on the verge of exploding.

The reason the dollar pressures may be on the verge of exploding is because the sanctions that we threatened the Russians with are forcing them to leave the dollar-based payment system. Meaning, they are going to start selling their energy in rubles, or for gold. They are also making barter deals with Iran.
But given the size of the Russian energy industry, if they remove that from the petrodollar it will mean a huge drop in the demand for dollars. It may well be that the Fed has caught on, and if it can’t get the American sanctions against Russia cancelled it will have to take even more offsetting actions in order to protect the dollar.

I’ve read the reports that say Russia has given us the ‘finger’ and is saying, ‘We are not going to play with dollars anymore. We are simply leaving the dollar system.’ If the Russians are able to do this, if China, India, and Brazil go along with it, then you will have removed a lot of the international payment system from dependancy on the dollar. This will also severely undermine the American SWIFT international payment system. So this could produce a run on the U.S. dollar.

I’ve told you many times, the Fed can print all the money it wants to buy bonds and keep interest rates low, but it cannot print money to buy dollars. And there is some limit as to how much it can prevail on its puppet states (in Europe) to supply money to buy dollars. At some point these puppet states will realize that the consequences for them may mean a very high domestic inflation.
The West may not be in a position to prevent an explosion in the gold price if Russia and other countries drop out of the SWIFT system. The Russian energy transactions are a trillion dollars or more (each year). Well, that’s equal to the amount of QE that was injected into the system annually. So the elimination of that demand for dollars in international transactions would offset a year of QE.

All of this means that I think the time for a reckoning for the U.S. dollar may finally be coming. So Goldman Sachs, the Fed, and the other bullion banks, are doing whatever they can to stave this off. But if there is a run on the dollar, the gold price will explode, particularly if there is not any gold to speak of in the West.”

PCR.
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As I have said before those that have gained the most from our system of government are doing the most to weaken this country.

They have the power to make the changes needed to make us strong again & still protect much of what they deem good.

What they need to do is realize that 100% of nothing is nothing. If the country fails so do they.
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Apr 16, 2014 06:53:40   #
Patty wrote:
Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg plans to spend $50 million in 2014 to build a “nationwide grass-roots network to motivate” anti-gun voters, the New York Times reports.

Basically, the billionaire wants to create the anti-Second Amendment version of the National Rifle Association. Eventually, he wants the group to be able to overpower the NRA. Bloomberg says gun control advocates should learn from the NRA and make sure there are consequences for failing to go along with their agenda.
He accused the NRA of threatening to go after lawmakers’ “kids,” “grandkids” and even “great-grandkids” if they don’t vote the right way.

“We’ve got to make them afraid of us,” Bloomberg added, according to the New York Times.

As the Times also notes, “Bloomberg already spent millions of dollars trying to persuade members of Congress to support enhanced background check laws with virtually nothing to show for it.”

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, said the former New York governor has “money to waste” but eventually “he’s going to find out why his side keeps losing.”
Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg plans to s... (show quote)


Again you bring up a key issue.

As I have said may times on this site I have or may have guns. They may be under a bunch of junk in my attic or my sons may have them.

That said I also have said it is no skin off my nose if you have guns.

But what I don't like is to hear from those gun owners who shout out what they have & what they do with what they have.

Because if you wish to keep your guns just keep that fact to your self & don't keep bringing up what you will do with the guns.

The bigger issue you make of this the more gun control there will be.

There are too many nuts out there waving guns around.
If you keep defending them you will only loose what you have.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:38:45   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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Exactly! The Republicans refuse to adapt to nature's imperative: adapt or go extinct. They refuse to accept the research that they must change and adapt to changing demographics, which means expanding their base beyond the wealthy 1% and the semi-illiterate, lock-and-load amen choir--the angry white male vote.

They continually refuse to do their homework and adapt to young women and minorities. Their gender gap, black gap, and Hispanic gaps are overwhelming. What are their "adaptation" strategies???

1. Convention of states
2. Repeal the 17th amendment, the direct election of U.S. senators.
3. A coup d'etat led by treasonous ex-military members.
4. Suppression of the minority and youth vote.
5. Illegal treasonous armed insurrection.
6. Secession

Only one potential nominee for the GOP is willing to do the homework, Jeb Bush, and the far right knuckle-draggers hate him. They would rather stay home on election day and lose for the third time in a row...which is exactly what is going to happen as minorities, young women, and liberal baby-boomers put another Democrat into the White House in 2016.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:30:36   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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The Republicans have selective Alzheimer's. They would like you also to forget that both parties reversed positions in the 60s, with white southern racists bolting the Democratic party for the GOP. This happened because LBJ signed the civil rights act of 1964. They would have you believe they still worship Lincoln when in fact if he were alive today, he would never be invited to an RNC meeting.
If they had their way the Confederate States of America would be alive and well in old Dixie.

The creepiest thing about the GOP is they want the right to be bigots and still get the respect of the nation. The younger generation is not buying any of that propaganda, hence the need to suppress the vote, gerrymander, and rig elections. They know that in a truly democratic nation they are just dinosaurs living on borrowed time.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:24:07   #


Hey if you are not winning change the rules.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:35:56   #
oldroy wrote:
What did Brian say about how we use the electoral college? I missed anything but maybe you saw something since you tried to agree with him.


Brian Devon wrote:
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The Republicans are always threatened by too much democracy. They consider voting by minorities and uppity women to be mob rule. As their redneck base shrinks year by year all they can do is bitch and moan about the loss of the good ol' days when the folks "who are not our kind" would just shuffle aside and avoid eye contact with their "betters". Their response to adapting to modernity is to jerry-rig elections so that the shrinking cracker base can win in spite of not having the most votes.


I just agreed that sort of stuff has happened.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:32:11   #
maelstrom wrote:
It is articles like this that allows me to understand why and how people are so loathing each other parties. Manipulating Americans against Americans. I still say lets all go for a NO party system.


I think people just want to join the club. Once they are in they want to stay in. They get all of the good perks.

They know that once they are in they know who to please to get the money to get elected again.

No one has the guts to stand on their own values.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:59:32   #
jasfourth401 wrote:
I do not support the Ryan budget.

I do not support the Ryan budget for one simple reason.

The reason is that it is fantasy to think anyone over 65 can use 8 thousand in vouchers to "pay for" their "free market health insurance" since medicare goes away. There's a reason why medicare was created. It was because free market insurance wouldn't cover seniors...at any cost.


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Apr 15, 2014 16:59:27   #
jasfourth401 wrote:
I do not support the Ryan budget.

I do not support the Ryan budget for one simple reason.

The reason is that it is fantasy to think anyone over 65 can use 8 thousand in vouchers to "pay for" their "free market health insurance" since medicare goes away. There's a reason why medicare was created. It was because free market insurance wouldn't cover seniors...at any cost.


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Apr 15, 2014 16:52:18   #
BoJester wrote:
That headline says it all. And it is so true.
bobby jindal said it first, and Brian Stephens expands the reasons teabagconservatives are just plain stupid, even if they are not in politics.



http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/15/wanted-republican-presidential-candidate-glaring-disqualifications-nakedly-unacceptable-sane-americans.html


I have never had the opinion that many of those who vote for the Right are bright enough to vote in their own interest.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:44:42   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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The Republicans are always threatened by too much democracy. They consider voting by minorities and uppity women to be mob rule. As their redneck base shrinks year by year all they can do is bitch and moan about the loss of the good ol' days when the folks "who are not our kind" would just shuffle aside and avoid eye contact with their "betters". Their response to adapting to modernity is to jerry-rig elections so that the shrinking cracker base can win in spite of not having the most votes.
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A bit harsh but that is pretty much how it is.
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Apr 15, 2014 13:12:32   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
The wider my knowledge becomes the more I realize my ignorance.

(I just added that to my post above.) I hope it is a clarification as to my meaning.


I just don't like the word ignorance used in that way even if it is correct. I just can't connect that word to you.

I like to say the more we know the more we don't know.


No matter if we are smart or stupid.
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