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May 20, 2018 10:59:50   #
Morgan
 
truthiness wrote:
Try Brazil
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-soybean-imports/supply-woes-brazil-cuts-into-u-s-soybean-market-share-in-china-idUSKBN1D30GC
Why China Is Hungry For Brazilian Soy
Stratfor , CONTRIBUTOR Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
This article was originally published at Stratfor.com.
• Brazil's poor infrastructure has long hurt the competitiveness of its soybean exports, but the country's producers will benefit greatly as new rail and port projects come online in the Amazon region.
• Problems for its main soybean export rivals, the United States and Argentina, will strengthen Brazil's trade relations with China this year.
• Brazil's soybean exports to China will increase further because the South American country has an abundance of land suitable for producing soybeans with higher protein levels.
It's a long way from the southern reaches of the Brazilian Amazon to China, but it's a path that many more are set to tread. In the early 2000s, China didn't even figure among Brazil's top five export markets, but in every year since 2009, Beijing has been Brasilia's main trade partner. Today, China is a major market for Brazil's soybean exports, which account for over 40 percent of its total exports to the Asian country. And because of Beijing's trade spat with the United States and ambitious infrastructure investments in Brazil, Brazilian soybean exports to China are poised to keep growing.
From Iowa:
There are repercussions for the entire rural economy'
"Farmers are feeling a real pinch," said Heisdorffer, president of the American Soybean Association. "If we can't get these commodity prices up ... we are going to start losing farmers. There's no way of getting around it.
This year's U.S. farm income is forecast to be half of what it was in 2013, primarily driven by falling corn and soybean prices.
China's latest tariffs on $50 billion of U.S. products came hours after President Donald Trump announced tariffs on a similar number of Chinese products.
Looking at soybeans alone, the U.S. economy could lose $3 billion annually within a couple years, due to lost export markets, a Purdue University analysis shows.
China, with a population of more than 1.4 billion, imports about 60 percent of global soybean production.
About 40 percent of China’s soybean imports come from the U.S. and were valued at $14 billion last year.
Initially, China would still look to the U.S. for soybeans, said Wallace Tyner, a Purdue agricultural economist.
But Brazil and other countries soon would take advantage of the 25 percent tariff to undercut U.S. producers.
"Brazil has the capability to expand substantially," Tyner said. "Over time, we'd lose global market share, because other countries would take advantage of the 25 percent wedge that the tariff represents."
The U.S. could lose 40 percent of its global market for soybeans, Tyner said. That would cut the need for soybean acres by about 16 percent. "Those are big numbers," he said.
"There'd be a lot of adjustment in U.S. agriculture," Tyner said, adding that falling soybean prices would depress corn prices as well, with growers switching acres.
"There are repercussions for the entire rural economy," he said.
Kirk Leeds, CEO of the Iowa Soybean Association, said tariffs will create "a lot of market disruption at a time when farmers can't afford any disruptions."
"If we go into a long, sustained period of low prices, it will impact some farmers' ability to stay on the farm," he said.
"For farmers on the edge, this could be very detrimental," Leeds said.
Try Brazil br https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c... (show quote)


Farmers always want no disruption, stability is best and easiest, but they have to be able to adjust to changes, the government can help with this and it can be through advisements on what to produce, what is most in demand at the best prices, this being more important than just laying out money.

Here's a good link to investigate lands being bought by foreign investors, you can look it up, per state, or county. Let us not forget what is planted above can also be mined below. Our land is our best commodity.

http://apps.investigatemidwest.org/afida/

Our corn crops have taken a slam due to Mexico's memory is not as short as Trump would like to think. But what it's really coming down to is why buy commodities from us when they can just buy the land and produce it themselves, and nothing stops them from titling their company US CORN.

Not to mention them being eligible for these farm subsidies.

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May 20, 2018 14:27:50   #
itsmyjob
 
Money, Money, Money I have some breaking news folks. Some people will never have enough. Some people are happy just surviving. Myself I say again cut all government subsidies in every sector. I'm at a total loss as why people think the government should subsidize anything. The government is responsible for putting the small farmers out of businesses. It's called greed.

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May 20, 2018 15:38:11   #
truthiness
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I want to end those ANCHOR BABIES. No more of that. Perhaps many of those kids who've been here for many years are anchor babies.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Any evidence?

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May 21, 2018 01:11:53   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
buffalo wrote:
Have to agree with you on this one, vern. A farm bill that is nothing but a bunch of corporate welfare for big ag corporations and BILLIONAIRE farmers.

Come on folks. A bill that compensates "farmers" with taxpayer money if the price of a crop falls below a "predetermined reference"? I assume that means if the price of wheat falls below a certain arbitrary high level, then the taxpayers make up the difference.

A bill in which the federal government both controls the amount of foreign and domestic sugar on the U.S. market and also guarantee a minimum price for producers if sugar prices drop. One family controls most of the sugar production and refining in the US--The Fanjul brothers. They inject millions into both parties and in return get subsidies and price protection worth some $2 BILLION annually. So consumers end up paying 2-3 times the average world price for sugar and food and candy manufacturers have to pay more so food cost are higher.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-farago/big-sugar-and-corporate-w_b_8553564.html

http://promarket.org/sugar-industry-buys-academia-politicians/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/05/18/6-things-to-watch-in-the-house-farm-bill-from-food-stamp-work-requirements-to-school-lunch/?utm_term=.bdf83d67a25f

What the rethuglicans and dems want is really not to make work a requirement for food stamps but to push MILLIONS off the rolls.

Another farm bill with massive welfare for billionaires and big ag corporations with taxpayer money while kicking more poor and elderly to the curb. It needed to fail!
Have to agree with you on this one, vern. A farm b... (show quote)


Agreed!!!

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May 21, 2018 01:13:19   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
Of the 435 members of the house there is a group of 33 hard core crackpot tea bagging right wing fascist nutters who laughingly call themselves the freedom caucus. They routinely hold the republicans hostage attempting to leverage reactionary policy by holding up must pass legislation. In the end they likely will force republicans to join forces with democrats to pass legislation rendering the tea bagging nutters just as I impotent and powerless as they are stupid.


Wouldn't be the first time that actual bipartisan, across-the-aisle cooperation worked!

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May 21, 2018 14:21:38   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
truthiness wrote:
Try Brazil
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-soybean-imports/supply-woes-brazil-cuts-into-u-s-soybean-market-share-in-china-idUSKBN1D30GC
Why China Is Hungry For Brazilian Soy
Stratfor , CONTRIBUTOR Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
This article was originally published at Stratfor.com.
• Brazil's poor infrastructure has long hurt the competitiveness of its soybean exports, but the country's producers will benefit greatly as new rail and port projects come online in the Amazon region.
• Problems for its main soybean export rivals, the United States and Argentina, will strengthen Brazil's trade relations with China this year.
• Brazil's soybean exports to China will increase further because the South American country has an abundance of land suitable for producing soybeans with higher protein levels.
It's a long way from the southern reaches of the Brazilian Amazon to China, but it's a path that many more are set to tread. In the early 2000s, China didn't even figure among Brazil's top five export markets, but in every year since 2009, Beijing has been Brasilia's main trade partner. Today, China is a major market for Brazil's soybean exports, which account for over 40 percent of its total exports to the Asian country. And because of Beijing's trade spat with the United States and ambitious infrastructure investments in Brazil, Brazilian soybean exports to China are poised to keep growing.
From Iowa:
There are repercussions for the entire rural economy'
"Farmers are feeling a real pinch," said Heisdorffer, president of the American Soybean Association. "If we can't get these commodity prices up ... we are going to start losing farmers. There's no way of getting around it.
This year's U.S. farm income is forecast to be half of what it was in 2013, primarily driven by falling corn and soybean prices.
China's latest tariffs on $50 billion of U.S. products came hours after President Donald Trump announced tariffs on a similar number of Chinese products.
Looking at soybeans alone, the U.S. economy could lose $3 billion annually within a couple years, due to lost export markets, a Purdue University analysis shows.
China, with a population of more than 1.4 billion, imports about 60 percent of global soybean production.
About 40 percent of China’s soybean imports come from the U.S. and were valued at $14 billion last year.
Initially, China would still look to the U.S. for soybeans, said Wallace Tyner, a Purdue agricultural economist.
But Brazil and other countries soon would take advantage of the 25 percent tariff to undercut U.S. producers.
"Brazil has the capability to expand substantially," Tyner said. "Over time, we'd lose global market share, because other countries would take advantage of the 25 percent wedge that the tariff represents."
The U.S. could lose 40 percent of its global market for soybeans, Tyner said. That would cut the need for soybean acres by about 16 percent. "Those are big numbers," he said.
"There'd be a lot of adjustment in U.S. agriculture," Tyner said, adding that falling soybean prices would depress corn prices as well, with growers switching acres.
"There are repercussions for the entire rural economy," he said.
Kirk Leeds, CEO of the Iowa Soybean Association, said tariffs will create "a lot of market disruption at a time when farmers can't afford any disruptions."
"If we go into a long, sustained period of low prices, it will impact some farmers' ability to stay on the farm," he said.
"For farmers on the edge, this could be very detrimental," Leeds said.
Try Brazil br https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c... (show quote)


Farmers here in America can & will do more growing of a larger verity of foods.
I say the future will see a stronger shift to green houses.

There has been a reliance on corn & soy beans becasuse of a more bankable connection with those grains.

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May 21, 2018 18:13:08   #
truthiness
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Farmers here in America can & will do more growing of a larger verity of foods.
I say the future will see a stronger shift to green houses.

There has been a reliance on corn & soy beans becasuse of a more bankable connection with those grains.


Evidence?

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May 23, 2018 12:34:34   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
truthiness wrote:
Evidence?


I am not here to educate any one.

I have a wide & varied range of interests.

I look for items that others express interest in.
I only offer my views.

It is in the hope of stimulating a greater interest in various issues that I post things.

The internet has an almost endless supply of topics.

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May 23, 2018 14:43:09   #
truthiness
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I am not here to educate any one.

I have a wide & varied range of interests.

I look for items that others express interest in.
I only offer my views.

It is in the hope of stimulating a greater interest in various issues that I post things.

The internet has an almost endless supply of topics.


Thank you, Floyd Brown. You are not different from anyone here then; everyone gives his opinion. My point is that the Fantasy Industrial Complex does the same without offering any reasons or evidence. I am sorry to say that you fall into the category of contributors who in essence take the role of prophet: offer an opinion with no basis and then suggest (you by implication, the FIC by overt statement): wait and see, history will prove me right.It would be nice to have a prophet whose word we could depend on; but there are many false prophets out there. So until the real prophet arrives whose word we can count on, we have to advance by relying on evidence and facts and on the scientific method that relies on facts, which I suspect you have but are unwilling to share.
For example, there are huge hothouse complexes already built--for example, in southern British Columbia. I don't think their products are going to replace the Canadian wheat/bean crop (yet). But Floridians probably do not know about these huge hot house complexes that could lend credence to your assertion that farmers eventually will switch to other types of crops. It is a big leap from hot house vegetables to tons of soy beans, but perhaps you have evidence of things moving in that direction.
Why not share reasons for your opinions and enlighten us all rather than pontificate like an internet Zeus from the new electronic Olympus?

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May 23, 2018 22:12:26   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
truthiness wrote:
Thank you, Floyd Brown. You are not different from anyone here then; everyone gives his opinion. My point is that the Fantasy Industrial Complex does the same without offering any reasons or evidence. I am sorry to say that you fall into the category of contributors who in essence take the role of prophet: offer an opinion with no basis and then suggest (you by implication, the FIC by overt statement): wait and see, history will prove me right.It would be nice to have a prophet whose word we could depend on; but there are many false prophets out there. So until the real prophet arrives whose word we can count on, we have to advance by relying on evidence and facts and on the scientific method that relies on facts, which I suspect you have but are unwilling to share.
For example, there are huge hothouse complexes already built--for example, in southern British Columbia. I don't think their products are going to replace the Canadian wheat/bean crop (yet). But Floridians probably do not know about these huge hot house complexes that could lend credence to your assertion that farmers eventually will switch to other types of crops. It is a big leap from hot house vegetables to tons of soy beans, but perhaps you have evidence of things moving in that direction.
Why not share reasons for your opinions and enlighten us all rather than pontificate like an internet Zeus from the new electronic Olympus?
Thank you, Floyd Brown. You are not different from... (show quote)


There is no one person that can or even should lead in seeking the right answers to life.
We need to look to others to find the trust & understanding each can bring to the issue.

If you are in the work day World I would not advise you to put to much time & effort to dig to deep into to the why & how of why we are where we are.
I would ask of you to be the best person you could be in all that you do each day.
The changes that are needed will only come from the people doing the things that need doing.

Each person needs to take control of them self in becoming the person that each of us wishes to see or be.
We all have positive inter actions with others. It is those inter actions that make life good.

As more positive inter actions take place our to days & tomorrows will improve
Gaining more influence a person gains the means to improve things for one's self & others.

As I am retired & have more time than I can truly fill up am free to look far a field.(The inter-net)

If you need to have a job I can only say you need to stay much in the present & spend only the extra time you have in looking to the future.
To take more than a peek at the past could be hard to bring the proper setting for meeting the demands of todays World.
If you wish to see a better tomorrow a peek at the past may help making the better choices for today & tomorrow.
As for me I can only plant seeds. It is for those coming after me to nurture those seeds.

I have been doing a lot of soul searching in the hope I can bring help to others in understanding what has & is going on around us.
It is not to be my views that become the views of most of us.
It is the view from most of us that needs to be acted on.

Look into your soul & bring out the good you find.
It is there in every one. It is much easier to tap it in some than in others.
We need to help each other bring out the goodness in each other.

Share with me in a private message or with every one here a bit about your self.

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