PZG1225 Loc: Florida

I would like to see that as well. It may be in the "Catholic" Bible because it surely isn't in the King James Version.

Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

bahmer

At present it is still cold here in Illinois but that aside I have emphysema and have not attended a church service for some time now. I am not in the job of judging all of the quick and the dead only the Lord Jesus has that job. So for me or any other to judge the Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians or for that matter any other Christian religion is absurd. I have enough faults to worry about and I have to remove the beam in my own eye before I worry about the splinter in my brothers eye. Have a great day.

samtheyank

The only thing I have against the Catholic Church is that Christ is not the center of everything, Scripture is not the final authority on all matters related to the Catholic Church, and the Christian Life, and their view of the Pope. These were the issues, and others like the selling of indulgences, that motivated Martin Luther to nail the 95 Thesis on the wall at Whittenburg, Germany. Please don’t tell me to go to hell. Just let me know you disagree and why.

Radiance3

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Something is very wrong with that.
First, Muslims don't believe in Jesus Christ as God. Muslims believe in killing all Christians and infidels, per order of their Quran for allah. Did you know that?

Hindus don't believe in Jesus Christ as God.

Jesus is Jewish and the Son of God. There are many Jewish Christians giving prophetic message of God. E.g. One of that is Jonathan Khan, author of Isaiah 9:10. Facts had happened exactly as stated in the Scripture of Isaiah 9:10.

Catholic Christians believe that Jesus Christ is the way, the life, and the truth.
Catholics profess and celebrate that every mass. The central focal point is Jesus Christ.
Catholic Christians believe in the "Holy Trinity" as God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" "One God" forever and ever.
Catholics pray during mass. The "Apostles' Creed" and the "Our Father".

Catholic Mass celebrates the Last Supper as the focal point of the mass.
It is called the Holy Communion or the Holy Eucharist.

During the last supper, Jesus took bread, blessed and gave thanks, broke it and gave to his disciples saying: "Take, eat, this is my body which will be given up for you."
Then he took the cup, blessed and gave thanks, gave to his disciples saying:
"Drink from it, all of you. This is the cup of my blood. It is the new and everlasting covenant, which will be poured out for you and for all, for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory of me."
‎1 Corinthians 11:17-34 · ‎Luke 22:19-20 · ‎Matthew 26:26-28 · ‎John 6:35

The consecrated bread and wine become the the body and blood of Christ.
Jesus, represented by the "Consecrated Bread", is kept in the Tabernacle of God.

During the Exudos, God asked Moses to build "The Ark of the Covenant" or the "Tabernacle" for God.

Carol Kelly

I have nothing against Catholics. On the contrary, some of the best Christians I know are Catholic. I am Episcopalian, but I can see who this Pope really is, and I’m certain God will handle the situation...later. Even the Catholics in my family know this man is evil.

Carol Kelly

[quote=Carol Kelly]I have nothing against Catholics. On the contrary, some of the best Christians I know are Catholic. I am Episcopalian, but I can see who this Pope really is, and I’m certain God will handle the situation...later. Even the Catholics in my family know this man is evil. I’m a female.

Radiance3

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By what the Pope is doing at present, I am not happy with him also. I think he is joining the Muslims, the "One World", with another god.

But we will stay and be faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ till the end.

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

[quote=Justsss]

I’ll tell you what, Justsss, why don’t you tell us what your Sunday service is first. And for that matter, so should you, mwdegutis. Rather than doing your cut & pastes from The Bible, as important as they are, tell us who the most important person is at your service.

Is your service, a series of sermons, punctuated by singing, as important as both are and as I’ve often experienced? Who is the star of the service? With Catholicism it's obvious that the star is Jesus. Does your church have billboards around town with your pastor and spouse and family’s pictures inviting all who are in need of some type of solace to attend?

Yes, Catholicism fulfills that for me also but I’ve yet to see a billboard exhorting the people to attend any Catholic church’s masses & if any do exist, I am sure there is no picture of the priests, deacons and other personnel. Let us know if you’ve ever seen one.

And what is the history of your faith or even your particular church? Has it been without its leaders with human frailties? Further, mwdegutis, you told us what you believe but do you got to church and, if so, what are its precepts? The precepts of the Catholic Church are matters of public record that just about everyone knows and they are embodied in our Apostles' Creed.

I have read some pretty thorough debunkings of Martin Luther and John Calvin by Catholic theologians, especially the doctrine of predestination which, I believe was espoused by Calvin (but if not by Calvin then by another Protestant theologian).

As far as reading your book there Justsss, I may but probably won’t. I’ve had it up to my neck with reading excerpts from The Whore of Babylon and other pieces by anti-Catholic clerics who claim to be Christians. And when you see a sewer cover, you don’t have to lift it to know what’s underneath.

Let me pose this question to both Justsss & mwdegutis, have you or anyone you can think of subjected other faiths to the same examination as Catholicism has been or is it just that Catholicism is the most visible target? As some prominent evangelist (I think it was Jerry Falwell) warned his followers, get over your hostility to the Catholic Church because what’s happening to them now, will be happening to the rest of Christianity soon.

Plus, FYI, as you should know, it’s not Christian to disparage the religion of others but Catholicism has the Sacrament of Reconciliation, formerly known as Penance. If you confess your sins, you can be forgiven in God’s Kingdom. You might benefit from it.

Thank you.

Radiance3

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You are right there bahmer. It is only God who could judge us. For no human is perfect, and God knows that. But for the forgiveness of sins, by"repentance" , God allows us to be forgiven.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

My point is exactly that, that we have a distinct ceremony that commemorates the Passion & Resurrection of Jesus. Not many other denominations do. I have nothing against sermons and singing, I do think it is important that we realize that Jesus is the star, not any pastor.

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

Paul was such a one, but was saved later. Obviously one who has given their life to Christ cannot commit such atrocities, yet all sin is equal in God's eyes. If I curse my husband for leaving the toilet seat up, yet again, it is a sin unto death. UNLESS, I accept the sacrifice that Christ made on my behalf, being without sin. I condemn no man, it is God's word that condemns or justifies. Bring this battle to the Author.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

A gospel (John?) states that Jesus said, "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them. Whose sins you shall retain, they are retain." If your Bible doesn't have that, check any Catholic version.

Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

[quote=crazylibertarian]I’ll tell you what, Justsss, why don’t you tell us what your Sunday service is first.

CL, my sabbath is dedicated ( just like every other day) to my LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Since you call David W.Daniels book of understanding about the origins of faith sewer water I really won’t waste anymore time answering your questions.
Have fun with that popey, priesty, JESUS still hanging on the cross stuff.
If I remember it correctly catholics burned CHRISTIANS.
Always wondered when all of a sudden catholics became “Christians” ?
It must be somewhere in those Alexandrine writings ?
CL, have a great day and realize that we will just have to agree to disagree.