bylm1-Bernie

Then, after this scenario takes shape, what will happen? After all the guns are rounded up, the resistors imprisoned, and the tyrants left in charge, what will life be like in the world? Will everything be wonderful in the new utopia? My reading of history tells me that what will evolve won't be anything that you or anyone will like. In fact, it will be just what our forefathers ran away from. You might even want to ask a few of your friends from Afghanistan or eastern European countries how they liked it or why they moved here. I don't think you have a clue what possibilities lie ahead. I don't expect that you or any of the useful idiots will have their eyes opened as to what evil lurks, but I'm just hoping that enough sane people will be able to put the pieces together and get this nonsense stopped, such as using children to do their dirty work. What a farce!

bylm1-Bernie

Thanks for posting, Loki, not that it will sway anyone who is as blind as Pete is, but it is good to remind ourselves occasionally of how tyranny develops and what some of the horrible results are of evil. Sometimes, as was stated in another post, "the worst things never happen", do happen. Complacency is a dangerous thing. Reality can sometimes be very unreal.

Snoopy

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

Yeah. I am sorry he closed down the facilities for the mentally ill. Where do we send you now?

Loki Loc: Georgia

Cowgirls kick their asses.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Rick, Nobody from the federal government is coming to take your guns. I am a liberal and a gun owner. I own two hand guns, a S&W 357 mag, and a Springfield 9 mm. I have them for home protection, and target practice.
As far as I can see, most people have had it with these school and other mass murderers, I know I have. The answer to these terrible crimes is not easy to come to. I can't imagine one or more of my grandchildren murdered in their classroom. The obvious answer is to limit the tool of these insane and/or felonious people. For the most part, that tool is the semi auto military style assault rifle which has a high capacity magazine and fires a devastating round. It can easily be fixed to fire fully automatic rounds as you know. It is unnecessary for hunting, target practice and has limited application for home or personal defense. What it does do is kill people in big numbers very well. It was designed for a battlefield not civilian use. Lets take it off the market to save the lives of both children and innocent adults.
The second thing that would help is doing a full and comprehensive background check on all persons buying fire arms, to make sure that it isn't sold to a person that will use it to kill or create havoc. That just doesn't seem to be unreasonable to me, and most others. You can still buy a shotgun or rifle for hunting, a handgun or other firearms for defense, and even historic weapons for collecting. Reasonable?

Lonewolf

[They already took our freedoms

quote=Ricktloml]Think they'll never 'come and take' your guns without an armed revolt? Think again.

by Scott Morefield

read full article at: https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmor


Here's the rub. It's one thing to hold up your rifle and shout "come and take" a' la Charleton Heston, before thousands of like-minded people. The Feds aren't going to come to a National Rifle Association convention and start arresting people, at least not yet. And they aren't going to conduct door-to-door house searches, arresting gun owners and confiscating their firearms, either. Not yet.

But believe me, under the right circumstances, and with the right laws in place, the arrests will come. They'll come when you're going to work, or to the bank, or to the park with your kids, or a thousand other places. They'll come after you've used your now-illegal AR-15 to defend yourself against a home invader, or if they spot it during a "routine" home search.

Never, ever underestimate these people and the depth of their evil. Remember Cheka managed to fill Soviet gulags to the brim, and yet they did it quietly, with little fuss and even less armed revolt.

And they don't need to arrest everyone to make the majority obey. No, they only need a few, and word will spread quickly.

So what will you do, dear AR-15 owner when the 'Cheka" comes for your neighbor, and you know the laws are on the books to prosecute? Will a "buyback" and "amnesty" be enough to convince you to acquiesce? You've got a job, a wife, kids to raise. When they come and "take it", is your family worth risking?

No, when they take your guns there will be no civil war. There will be no large-scale revolution, because liberals are experts at pushing that Overton Window enough not to shock the system. Like frogs in water that's about to boil, people won't jump until it's too late.

That's why it's so important to not get complacent and believe a worse case scenario will never happen. That's why it's critical to fight the gun controllers' efforts to change the law at EVERY turn, using EVERY legal means possible.

Long before they "come and take our guns and take our freedoms."



The gist of this article is the purpose of more and more gun laws is to make law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional rights criminals[/quote]

bylm1-Bernie

Saltwind, I think that acknowledging the grief and sorrow of everyone doesn't even need to be done. Of course we are all devastated and waiting for the other shoe to drop. However, the 900 lb gorilla that never gets mentioned is the means by which these so-called assault rifles can be removed. There are millions out there and do you think that the bad people are going to destroy theirs? Even if you could figure out a way to safely eliminate them, which I think is a terrible idea, most of these features that people want to eliminate can be duplicated in a machine shop. It isn't even practical to think you can eliminate every automatic weapon. I am not a machinist, but I could produce a bump stock in a few days or less. I am completely convinced that you have to go after the bad people - not the good people. There are nuances, of course, such as bad people stealing guns from the good people. The bottom line with most gun haters is to immediately try to play on emotion without analyzing the problem, such as turning kids loose to get people to jump on their bandwagon and blame the NRA. The most recent situation in Florida could have been stopped. There is plenty of blame to go around and the NRA and law-abiding gun owners don't own any of it.

Loki Loc: Georgia

I have an alternate proposal. How much money are you willing to shell out to personally reimburse law abiding gun owners who will be impacted by your "solution?" Oh yes, those scary looking rifles....they can be "easily fixed" to fire a "fully automatic round?" In what universe; and how is that different from "semi automatic round?"

Has it ever occurred to you that of the last 30 shootings, all but one have happened in "gun free zones?" Anyone with a modicum of skill could inflict at least as many casualties as happened at Parkland with any kind of firearm at all. When you have a five to ten minute response time by police while an armed officer on the premises tries to get his thumb out of his ass, you could kill seventeen kids with a single shot .22. Or a revolver or a bolt action rifle. The only deterrent that has been proven to work is fear. Criminals avoid people and places where they are likely to get shot. Not once, not ONE SINGLE TIME have I heard a single gun grabbing liberal suggest a mandatory death penalty, or life at hard labor with no possibility of parole. The only solution you have is to penalize the law abiding gun owner. I can see your point. I mean after all, bans worked so well with alcohol and drugs I don't know why we didn't think of it before.

Ricktloml

Read the full article. The point the author made was at first these restrictions will be ignored by gun owners and not enforced by authorities, ( as they are RIGHT NOW in several states, Connecticut being one example,) but, should the left gain enough political power to enforce these laws they will be able to because they have criminalized gun ownership, and thus are "following the law". The author rightly pointed out the goal would then be to pick gun owners off one by one, not some huge jack-booted drive to confiscate ALL guns at once. Too many people trust the left, and think they aren't devious enough to implement an agenda like this, and will stand by and let them criminalize their Second Amendment rights. And after the Second Amendment rights are gone, the rest will be fair game. I don't doubt that there are many who would literally fight to preserve their rights, but the place to start is to not let them be undermined in the first place.

roy

What you on the right need to understand is we on the left have as many or more guns as you on the right.We aint going to let nobody take our guns,and we want let anybody take your guns.Do i think some new laws need to be put in place yes i do any person that comits a crime with a gun,whether it be robbey,murder and a vast of others,should be put to death.Putting them in prison does no good ,because they are took care of so good,they dont really care if their in prison.At the least they should be made do hard labor.

Big Kahuna

Go after all registered demonratic voters and take away all their guns since they are advocating gun confiscation and are the group most responsible for all the killings going on in our country. Round up all the gangs, mentally unstable individuals, islamic radicals and their deranged groups, social injustice warriors, wife and girlfriend abusers (the NFL and NBA players), antifa, black lies matter, NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, the pussy women, all illegal aliens, the hollyweird crowd, the rappers, the late night so-called comedian clowns,and all other leftist groups and take away their guns and body guards. Our country would then be 98% safer.

eden

Some perspective from the middle:

America is awash in guns to the tune of hundreds of millions, so the Gun Ban train already left the station. Many of these guns are unregistered and untraceable so from a practical standpoint confiscating all guns would be impossible, and those who scaremonger about this are being illogical and irresponsible.
To those who join the “Do Something” chorus every time there is a mass shooting, you need to understand that a lot of what gets posted here by gun owners is true. Millions of responsible Americans own guns of all kinds, including so called Assault Rifles and never make the headlines. To someone who doesn’t like guns it may be hard to understand that there are a lot of people who do. Hard to dig down into that but the smell of gun oil and cordite and bursting water jugs downrange is a great recreation for some. The argument about
the lethality of different types of firearms is driven mostly by media misinformation and ignorance. You don’t hear people advocating banning shotguns too much but a semi-automatic 12 Guage loaded with Double Ought Bucks could put the equivalent of forty five .33 caliber slugs in the air in under five seconds.
In another comparison a Mini 14 with a wooden stock and a short round clip looks like a conventional hunting rifle but with the loading of a 30 round clip and its semi-automatic rate of fire will approximate the performance of a so-called Ugly Assault Rifle.
So to address the recurring tragedy of mass shootings .....mentally unbalanced people carry these out by gaining access to firearms. As a matter of priority you could reasonably insist that children’s lives should be put ahead of citizens gun rights but banning guns either by category or en masse would not prevent another mass shooting. Too many guns available for enough money any time regardless of laws. It sounds horrible but perhaps the best we can do is reduce the frequency of such shootings by working across the great divide and addressing background checks somehow administered by non governmental agencies like Gun Clubs. Gun clubs are run by responsible gun owners generally and if peer approval was necessary to purchase that could be a starting place since there is such widespread (and justifiable) distrust in government, especially Federal.
To my Liberal friends; if I sound like a gun nut, sorry but if we just keep picking up shit and throwing it without thinking and listening, then it just deepens the divide and as long as there is no common ground there are people including children who are alive now who will die a horrible near future death because we failed them.
To my Conservative friends; see above. A little less of the “Liberals are stupid” meme would be helpful. If you just parrot the paranoia about confiscation you sound weak and helpless and if we are all paralyzed by culture war inertia then again we have failed them that need us most.

Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines

Definitely one of the best ideas I've ever heard. Simplistic genius. Sign me up

Richard Rowland

I take it that you feel, out of the list of "like-minded nut jobs" you mention, you're the normal one?