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Feb 21, 2018 11:41:47   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
There is a lot there. It would have to be a known mass, so you would get a known velocity. It would not be a standard size or shape so a tubular bore would only be possible if it road on a wadding of some sort. A treboshette might be useful. They use a sling. I don't know how to spell that. Lastly the hollow interior could be filled to transfer the force to the rest of the sphere.



Oh, wow. They really do use trebuchets to fling pumpkins over considerable distances. It's called 'pumpkin chunking'. Well I'll be. Per Wikipedia:

"Trebuchets compete in one of the classifications of machines used to hurl pumpkins at the annual pumpkin chunking contest held in Sussex County, Delaware, U.S. The record-holder in that contest for trebuchets is the Yankee Siege II from New Hampshire, which at the 2013 WCPC Championship tossed a pumpkin 2835.8 ft (864.35 metres). The 51-foot-tall (16 m), 55,000-pound (25,000 kg) trebuchet flings the standard 8–10-pound (3.6–4.5 kg) pumpkins, specified for all entries in the WCPC competition."

Go figger. Still that's nowhere near the 10,000 feet you're looking for.

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Feb 21, 2018 11:45:53   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Morgan wrote:
All it takes is... reason that they can't argue against. I have often wondered with all of the police killings of unarmed people why do they never shoot to wound if they feel they have to shoot. I think what we have going on right now are police who are so afraid, they cannot perform as the professional law enforcer they should be. Especially unbiased.

I think the Police are using the same orders that the Roman Legions had. The people at the top give orders and the Police use force of arms to make the people obey.
How does this fit with the Sovereign Citizen? I want a new job description for the police. How about, "Help the injured secure redress" or "Act as Gateway to the Court"
I would like the Police to be able to use all of the fabulous new toys that are being invented, but to do that they would have to be on a short leach. I suggest that they should not be allowed to act until harm is identified. When harm becomes obvious then all efforts are appropriate like looking at camera footage or X Ray survey of the house. Who knows what they will have. Use it all and provide Court Quality evidence for the Judge. But, only after HARM is identified.

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Feb 21, 2018 11:47:21   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
I think the Police are using the same orders that the Roman Legions had. The people at the top give orders and the Police use force of arms to make the people obey.
How does this fit with the Sovereign Citizen? I want a new job description for the police. How about, "Help the injured secure redress" or "Act as Gateway to the Court"
I would like the Police to be able to use all of the fabulous new toys that are being invented, but to do that they would have to be on a short leach. I suggest that they should not be allowed to act until harm is identified. When harm becomes obvious then all efforts are appropriate like looking at camera footage or X Ray survey of the house. Who knows what they will have. Use it all and provide Court Quality evidence for the Judge. But, only after HARM is identified.
I think the Police are using the same orders that ... (show quote)


You mean like they do now?

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Feb 21, 2018 12:01:38   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Oh, wow. They really do use trebuchets to fling pumpkins over considerable distances. It's called 'pumpkin chunking'. Well I'll be. Per Wikipedia:

"Trebuchets compete in one of the classifications of machines used to hurl pumpkins at the annual pumpkin chunking contest held in Sussex County, Delaware, U.S. The record-holder in that contest for trebuchets is the Yankee Siege II from New Hampshire, which at the 2013 WCPC Championship tossed a pumpkin 2835.8 ft (864.35 metres). The 51-foot-tall (16 m), 55,000-pound (25,000 kg) trebuchet flings the standard 8–10-pound (3.6–4.5 kg) pumpkins, specified for all entries in the WCPC competition."

Go figger. Still that's nowhere near the 10,000 feet you're looking for.
Oh, wow. They really do use trebuchets to fling p... (show quote)

I was thinking compressed air might be good. One time I was helping build a gas station, so the tanks had to be pressure tested. So, they were pressurizing a 30,000 gal tank, and we were standing around talking with the supervisor. He was fidgeting with the 6 inch cap. Well he unlocked it, and it flew so high it was hard to see. I think I counted to 20 before it came down. That was with only 4 pounds of pressure.

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Feb 21, 2018 12:03:39   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
I was thinking compressed air might be good. One time I was helping build a gas station, so the tanks had to be pressure tested. So, they were pressurizing a 30,000 gal tank, and we were standing around talking with the supervisor. He was fidgeting with the 6 inch cap. Well he unlocked it, and it flew so high it was hard to see. I think I counted to 20 before it came down. That was with only 4 pounds of pressure.


Wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, was he?

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Feb 21, 2018 12:46:10   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, was he?

He was fun to work for.

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Feb 21, 2018 12:48:37   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
You mean like they do now?

They are so close to it that they think they are there. Well, then, make it so. The problem is Law Enforcement.

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Feb 21, 2018 13:30:10   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
They are so close to it that they think they are there. Well, then, make it so. The problem is Law Enforcement.


Here's a little experiment for you. Call your local sheriff's office and tell them there's somebody who looks like he might do something 'later'. Specifically when doesn't matter, but 'soonish', you know? Pay attention to the response. Fact is, they will not lift a finger until there is an actual crime to investigate. You can tell them what he 'looks' like he's going to go until you're blue in the face, it will make no difference. You will not get a police officer, sheriff's deputy or FBI agent to lift a finger until you have a crime to report. Until then, fergeddaboudit.

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Feb 21, 2018 13:38:01   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Here's a little experiment for you. Call your local sheriff's office and tell them there's somebody who looks like he might do something 'later'. Specifically when doesn't matter, but 'soonish', you know? Pay attention to the response. Fact is, they will not lift a finger until there is an actual crime to investigate. You can tell them what he 'looks' like he's going to go until you're blue in the face, it will make no difference. You will not get a police officer, sheriff's deputy or FBI agent to lift a finger until you have a crime to report. Until then, fergeddaboudit.
Here's a little experiment for you. Call your loc... (show quote)

They should collect evidence. They should mobilize and preposition. They should inquire and interview. They should educate as to the implications of carrying out whatever action. They should be helpful.

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Feb 21, 2018 13:39:52   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
They should collect evidence. They should mobilize and preposition. They should inquire and interview. They should educate as to the implications of carrying out whatever action. They should be helpful.


All true, in the event of a crime being committed. Until then, suck it up, coz they ain't interested.

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Feb 21, 2018 13:50:50   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
All true, in the event of a crime being committed. Until then, suck it up, coz they ain't interested.

I should think, that in the age of drones and GPS cell phones, there should be things that the cops could do without getting out of their chair.
That is what I mean. Cops are not allowed to do some of these things. England does this stuff. They have cameras on you every inch of the way.
I don't care if they do that stuff, so long as it will not turn into a slavery or abusive dominance, which is what our current system always does.

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Feb 21, 2018 14:28:49   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
I should think, that in the age of drones and GPS cell phones, there should be things that the cops could do without getting out of their chair.
That is what I mean. Cops are not allowed to do some of these things. England does this stuff. They have cameras on you every inch of the way.
I don't care if they do that stuff, so long as it will not turn into a slavery or abusive dominance, which is what our current system always does.


It's a rock and a hard place then, isn't it? You either give them the ability to investigate what you 'might' do, or you make them wait until there's a crime committed. Can't have it both ways. Remember this, you are your own first line of defense, always. Oh, and when seconds matter, the police are only minutes away...

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Feb 21, 2018 14:48:52   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
It's a rock and a hard place then, isn't it? You either give them the ability to investigate what you 'might' do, or you make them wait until there's a crime committed. Can't have it both ways. Remember this, you are your own first line of defense, always. Oh, and when seconds matter, the police are only minutes away...

I said that to Mothers Against Guns. I also mentioned a proposal I heard to issue all Females on campus concealed carry permits. They seemed to like that idea.

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Feb 21, 2018 15:40:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
I said that to Mothers Against Guns. I also mentioned a proposal I heard to issue all Females on campus concealed carry permits. They seemed to like that idea.


Good. The more the safer. One thing to know about these 'mass shooters', they're cowards. They attack at the weakest point when they know there will be little or no resistance and maximum damage. Show them an armed classroom guard and they'll run a mile before attacking it.

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Feb 21, 2018 18:16:49   #
Gatsby
 
Morgan: I was being as polite as Richards moronic post deserved!
First, there is no such constitutional restriction on our military!
Second, "war grade weapons" is perhaps the most unconstitutionaly vague definintion that I have ever heard of!
Third, labeling or microchiping bullets is far beyond our technological ability at this time.
Fourth, when was the last time that a missile was used against U.S. civilians?
All in all, Richards post was the greatest display of ignorance seen in some time!

[quote=MorganNothing but insults from the right once again, and again and again, it's all you know. Not one legitimate argument against what he said, that's because there isn't any.[/quote]

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