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Dec 17, 2017 19:44:22   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
badbobby wrote:
as you said s u it was the Post
now that being said
the whole story has now been proven a hoax

No, it hasn't. LOL. So, is this one of those "say it and wish" things? Where's your proof?

badbobby wrote:

you are either confused or else just don't know what you are posting is leftist lies

My arguments prove otherwise. I have provided links, insight and rational deduction. All you have is "because I say so". I did a quick online scan for updates on the story and as of right now, there has been no proof that the story is false. You just don't want to accept it. Here... try this... Close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and say "la, la, la, la, la..." LOL

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Dec 17, 2017 23:44:30   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
Loki, I have often wondered about Hitler's obsession with the Jews and the communists. I believe part of it is that the communist party (by far, Germany's most mortal enemy), was founded by Jews: Lenin, Marx, Trotsky, and Engels. I don't believe that Hitler himself was responsible for the concentration camps high death rate but think that most of that fell on Himmler and very hard times. And it was exacerbated by Germany's small size.

Most of the inmates died of starvation: to look at the situation as it was then may be revealing. Most German farming labor was in the military and food was at a premium. The only Germans that ate well were the actual fighting men, they got the wurst, potatoes, cabbage, bread, etc. The next in line were the rear echelon troops, they were also well fed for the most part. After that came the German civilians; they ate rather more poorly with artificial coffee and sometimes sawdust bread and far less of a meat ration. Then came the foreign defense workers and finally the prison camp inmates. Their rations were almost non existent and many starved.

Their bodies were burned to forego typhus and their clothes were gassed with Zyklon B to kill the disease bearing insects, fleas, etc. (in fact, the allies used very similar procedures to kill disease bearing insects). Hitler is reputed to have had six million jews murdered but the actual facts seem to be closer to 600,000, certainly a very heinous number but nowhere near the sympathy jerking figure of six million (Interestingly enough, the Jews claimed the same number of deaths at the end of WWI but were ignored). And most were starved, not shot, hanged, gassed, etc. It was, in any event, a tragic situation but nowhere near the 26 million that Stalin managed to have killed. Comments??
Loki, I have often wondered about Hitler's obsessi... (show quote)


Who would have believed that we have an apologist for Hitler on this forum? Are you sure there was a Holocaust? The sympathy jerking 6 million Jews was a portion of the estimated total number of 11 million deaths, with the victims encompassing Catholic Priests and Nuns, gay people, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples.

One of those Priests, Maximilian Kolbe who was a Franciscan, led his fellow prisoners in prayer throughout their executions and was executed last, being made to watch his flock die one by one to break his trust in God. Kolbe has since been declared a Saint of the Church.

The Germans were very public health minded people, I am sure that public sanitation was all they had on their minds with the ovens and mass graves filled with emaciated skeletal bodies who were systematically worked to death on water rations.

Arbeit Macht Frei -- Sig Heil Kamerade!

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Dec 18, 2017 00:30:48   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Loki wrote:
That must be why there are so many Conservative speakers welcomed at UC Berkeley.

Actually, there are. I've already written about the scam the right plays on Berkeley... They work with the conservative student body (which is permitted in Berkeley) to schedule right wing provocateurs. Not just conservative speakers, but right-wing provocateurs... as in confrontational agitators like the one who calls himself the Dangerous Faggot. So Berkeley, being the champion of free speech that it has always been, makes arrangements for security at a tremendous cost. $500,000 to secure the safety of the Dangerous Faggot so he can say a few words, sing a song and leave. Other's like Ann Coulter who, seriously has no other objective but to enrage people, played a similar game. She had no intention of coming to Berkeley but she pretended to and demanded that she be scheduled on a day where security wasn't available. So Berkeley suggested a different where they could but Coulter already had what she wanted and went back to her networks to bitch about how Berkeley wouldn't let her speak. She knows that people like you won't even notice all the conservative speakers that did speak, only that they "refused" to let Coulter speak.

The real issue that people like you have with Berkeley is that the school is open to ALL views and you can't stand that. Face it, you can't tolerate a school that will hear the views of socialists or Muslims. Personally, I think it's disgusting how people like you attack schools that are trying to help students build better futures, just because they support the freedom of speech which you obviously don't.

Loki wrote:

The left only promotes inclusion of those people and philosophies with which they agree.

That's a lie. The left accepts all views and all cultures. What often happens is a right-wing faction will try to exclude a view THEY don't like and the left will oppose that exclusion, which the right will immediately flag as an intolerance. I can think of many examples. For instance, prayers in school. Conservatives frequently try to mandate prayer in school as a way to dominate the culture. Liberals feel obligated to enforce the 1st Amendment (which the right secretly despises) saying that such mandates are unconstitutional and what does the right-wing media do? They say the liberals are attacking Christians.

So, here's some advice... if you want the left to stop attacking Christians, tell the Christians to stop attacking everyone else. it's that simple.

Loki wrote:

In this they are no different from the right, just more self-righteous about it.

We ALL appear self-righteous to our opponents, Loki... Now, I might agree that the difference between political parties are slight (although that's changing) but the culture difference between the left and the right couldn't be any more dramatic.

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Dec 18, 2017 01:00:38   #
Jean Deaux
 
11r20 wrote:
well, you know Miss Jean?...They do want LBJ's 'Great Welfare Society' back in play.



Sorry for the confusion but the name is Jean Deaux, French for John Doe.
Doe and Deaux have the same pronunciation. I don't know who the "they" are you are referring to but the liberals are desperate not only to get it back but also magnify it, at taxpayer expense (let the "rich" pay for it as well as everything else they desire) so as to attempt to buy votes. Pity our Republic has been allowed to sink to such desperate political depths. MAGA!

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Dec 18, 2017 01:13:10   #
Jean Deaux
 
11r20 wrote:
11r20 wrote:

nannystate propaganda is disseminated by lib media to perpetuate the welfare state.



No, it's what I say Tonto, and I also say the CDC is responsible for promotin the fluoride cocktail
that's nothin more than 300 cancer causin carcinogins pumped through the water depts
of low income districts...the demonrat's cant have their 'LBJ, Great Society' ""Pet Project Dindu's""
feeling too energetic or they'd start runnin off the reservation.

Now out here where I live, we have confederate rednek blacks,rednek mexicans,even rednek indians from india;
and we all git along.
11r20 wrote: br br nannystate propaganda is disse... (show quote)



It seems you forgot the Chemtrails issue as well as wanton water wastage from the "fracking" policies that have been enacted. I worry a great deal more over those two issues than I do global warming, but to each his own.

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Dec 18, 2017 01:25:34   #
Jean Deaux
 
straightUp wrote:
I think it's more like 30% (about the size of the deplorables) who feel like they're being led around by a ring in the nose because they allow themselves to get so wound up over people being different. I'm in that other 67% who are entirely unaffected by LGBTQ.
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You mention President Trump's use of "gag orders". Is it any wonder, what with all the leaks that have originated from within his administration, many of which have apparently been rendered by obama holdovers. Perhaps you have a better method of stifling these leaks??

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Dec 18, 2017 01:38:36   #
Jean Deaux
 



Far too much evidence supports the habitation of our White House by two queers. Relative finger length, adams apple, shoulder width and other physical evidence plus our serene highness referring to her as michael. And of course, several instances where her/his clothes revealed those bits not found on women. Wake up to the truth!! Perhaps you'd like to search for their two "daughters" birth certificates and evidence of their actual parentage.

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Dec 18, 2017 01:45:18   #
Jean Deaux
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
Gleichschaltung!

I take the meaning of this particular phrase to mean; Make America White Again,
Civilized Again, Harmonious Again, Law & Order
Again, Advanced Again, Actually Maintaining The Original Constitution Again, Making our public school's, safe places of Learning Again,
Respect for our Police Officer's & Military Again,
Making America "PARASITIC FREE" Again, Respeccting our Nat.'l Anthum Again, Respecting our Flag Again, Restoring Patriotism
Again, Maintaining our original language, custom's, Religion, Moral's, History, & Heritage!
By today's "PC" Propaganda, I guess
that makes me a Racist!?
Gleichschaltung! br br I take the m... (show quote)



Certainly not but it would make a giant contribution to restoring our Republic to its Constitutional bonds. MAGA

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Dec 18, 2017 01:52:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
We ALL appear self-righteous to our opponents, Loki... Now, I might agree that the difference between political parties are slight (although that's changing) but the culture difference between the left and the right couldn't be any more dramatic.

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"Actually, there are. I've already written about the scam the right plays on Berkeley... They work with the conservative student body (which is permitted in Berkeley) to schedule right wing provocateurs."
When was the last time the "conservative student body" at Berkeley rioted to prevent a left-wing speaker from appearing?
******
"Personally, I think it's disgusting how people like you attack schools that are trying to help students build better futures, just because they support the freedom of speech which you obviously don't."
You mean like the secondary schools in California that allow Latino kids, legal and otherwise to display Mexican flags but punish kids who display the American flag because it might offend an illegal or one of their supporters? Care to explain how that helps kids build a better future?
*****

"That's a lie. The left accepts all views and all cultures. What often happens is a right-wing faction will try to exclude a view THEY don't like and the left will oppose that exclusion, which the right will immediately flag as an intolerance. I can think of many examples. For instance, prayers in school. Conservatives frequently try to mandate prayer in school as a way to dominate the culture. Liberals feel obligated to enforce the 1st Amendment (which the right secretly despises) saying that such mandates are unconstitutional and what does the right-wing media do? They say the liberals are attacking Christians."
Most of the Christians I know (I'm not one of them) simply want to be allowed to pray in school if they feel like it. You don't have to listen or watch.
Liberals feel obligated to enforce the First Amendment when it suits their purposes to do so.
*****
"So, here's some advice... if you want the left to stop attacking Christians, tell the Christians to stop attacking everyone else. it's that simple."
Here are some facts to go with your advice....
Since 1979 there have been 20,706 people killed in Islamic terror attacks. There have been 52,044 wounded and maimed. That's confirmed. While you're including Muslims in your inclusiveness, you might want to remember that.
*******

"We ALL appear self-righteous to our opponents, Loki... Now, I might agree that the difference between political parties are slight (although that's changing) but the culture difference between the left and the right couldn't be any more dramatic."

Oh, yes they could. The main difference between conservative intolerance and liberal intolerance is the degree of hypocrisy involved. When it comes to self-righteous, arrogant condescension, Conservatives are at best talented amateurs, not to be confused with the consummate professionals of the left.

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Dec 18, 2017 02:00:00   #
PeterS
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
Far too much evidence supports the habitation of our White House by two queers. Relative finger length, adams apple, shoulder width and other physical evidence plus our serene highness referring to her as michael. And of course, several instances where her/his clothes revealed those bits not found on women. Wake up to the truth!! Perhaps you'd like to search for their two "daughters" birth certificates and evidence of their actual parentage.

You are foulest bit#hes aren't. Why don't you crawl back into the sewer you crawled out of...

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Dec 18, 2017 02:55:20   #
Jean Deaux
 
pafret wrote:
Who would have believed that we have an apologist for Hitler on this forum? Are you sure there was a Holocaust? The sympathy jerking 6 million Jews was a portion of the estimated total number of 11 million deaths, with the victims encompassing Catholic Priests and Nuns, gay people, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples.

One of those Priests, Maximilian Kolbe who was a Franciscan, led his fellow prisoners in prayer throughout their executions and was executed last, being made to watch his flock die one by one to break his trust in God. Kolbe has since been declared a Saint of the Church.

The Germans were very public health minded people, I am sure that public sanitation was all they had on their minds with the ovens and mass graves filled with emaciated skeletal bodies who were systematically worked to death on water rations.

Arbeit Macht Frei -- Sig Heil Kamerade!
Who would have believed that we have an apologist ... (show quote)




I am not being an apologist for Hitler but he was not as bad as the allied propaganda writers made him out to be. Had he not become involved in the war starting with Poland, he would have been considered one of Europe's great financial geniuses. His rescue of the German economy from the unrealistic demands of the Versailles Treaty and the return of a measure of prosperity to Germany were one of the wonders of his age. Granted, he did have dreams of returning Germany to "her place in the sun" and he did it the wrong way: c'est la guerre. His most vigorous efforts were pointed toward the defeat of the communists, not an altogether bad idea.

The furnaces employed by the Nazi's were intended to minimize the deaths of numerous other prisoners from diseases such as typhus by burning the bodies of the infected. The use of Zyklon B was an effort to thwart the spread of disease by destroying the disease carrying vermin that infested the prisoners clothing. We used a product that was chemically very close to Zyklon B for exactly the same purpose. The Israeli's, after having examined the gas chambers and furnaces, admitted that they were far too small to have destroyed the propagandized number of deaths of 6 million.

It cost him the country he led and the deaths of millions of Germans in his military; still nowhere near as many as the 26 million killed by one of our "allies" in the person of Uncle Joe of whom you hear far less criticism. It is true that his death camps held many different classes that he considered "Untermenschen"; Poles, Russians, Jews, Gypsies, queers, criminals. Many of these people died but it was true, on a very limited scale that work could earn freedom. I don't know the number who were released by virtue of their work and am confident that it was an extremely small number, but it was true. I have not seen any references to the deaths of 11 million people regardless of origin or religion.

His work force was badly depleted by demands of the military for able bodied men which left many of his skilled workers at a minimum and who needed to have their ranks supplemented. Many Jews were skilled craftsmen and it made sense to put them to work in support of his war industries. They were able to provide benefit to the Nazis in manufacturing vehicles, aircraft, fortifications, munitions, etc. and were not to be wantonly murdered since they were a national asset but at the same time, they were considered to be enemies of the Third Reich. So they were not fed nearly as much as they should have been, primarily because of the non-availability of food. Hundreds of thousands died, some of starvation, some of disease, some of exposure, etc.

But Hitler managed to involve himself with matters of war and left the "final solution" to individuals such as Himmler and other members of the "Todenkopf (death head or skull) SS. His Waffen (armed) SS were formed as members of his bodyguard and were incredibly fierce warriors and almost always earned themselves a highly creditable reputation in combat (with exceptions such as the Malmedy Massacre). Interestingly, virtually every country he invaded had volunteers join the Waffen SS and even included two companies of British. None of these were conscripted but almost universally wanted to kill the Russian Bear.

And a "Hail Victory, comrade" to you.

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Dec 18, 2017 03:15:45   #
Jean Deaux
 
PeterS wrote:
You are foulest bit#hes aren't. Why don't you crawl back into the sewer you crawled out of...



I guess the truth really rankled you. Sorry but look up the whole story on this pair of perverts.

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Dec 18, 2017 04:44:45   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
pafret wrote:
Sometimes I have to marvel at how confused and ignorant those of you on the left can be.

Confusion and ignorance is not limited to one side of the political spectrum pafret.

pafret wrote:

Communism, Fascism, Nazism are all leftist, socialist, totalitarian forms of government.

So I guess you're an example of confusion and ignorance ;)

Let's take this one step at a time...

Communism is indeed socialist and therefore leftist, but I'm betting you have no clue why. So I'll tell you. Socialism aims to give workers a share in the means of production that's why. Democratic societies will typically implement this through government ownership, which means the workers, who are also citizens, will have some voice in matters pertaining to the means of production.

But is communism totalitarian? No, it's not. In fact totalitarianism defeats the entire purpose of socialism (and therefore communism) because totalitarian systems deny the voices of citizens. Now, the reason why so many people like yourself *think* communism is totalitarian is because instead of reading Karl Marx to understand the theory they associate the word "communism" with it's failed implementations, such as the Soviet Union and People's Republic of China.

On the other hand, Nazism is a German implementation of fascism and fascism is on the extreme right. Obviously, you don't why this is the case either. So. I'll tell you. Fascism is deeply nationalist and often racist, two conditions based on the exclusion of others, using the Nazi example, these others would be Jews, Romano, Homosexuals and any other ethnic group considered to be inferior to the "master race". It's this exclusion that makes fascism a right-wing ideology.

Is Nazism socialist? Well, Nazism rose at a time where EVERYONE was socialist. The world was dragging it's ass through a global depression, where people didn't have enough to eat and they knew capitalism was to blame. Socialism was a promise of a better world and every political movement that wanted to tap into populism made socialist promises, including FDR in America where socialism reached it's peak popularity. Here's a little fact for you... Every German party competing with the Nazis was making socialist promises.

So you may ask.. How can Nazism be right-wing AND socialist if I just said socialism is leftist? Well things can get complex, which is why so many people get confused. But I'll try to make this as a simple as possible. Socialism is an economic system, not a political one. So in theory, you can have a left-leaning socialist system inside the political structure of a right-leaning government, in which case the workers that are NOT excluded by the right-wing political system are included in the process of governing the means of production.

As it happened, the reality of socialism in Nazi Germany was never as big as it's promise and once the democracy (another leftist concept) was replaced by totalitarianism, socialism was hardly evident at all. The Nazis were far more capitalist than socialist. In fact many American capitalists including the Rockefellers and the Bush family expressed admiration for Hitler's economic views and developed business ties with his regime.

What the Nazis are far more famous for is their ethnic, and frequently violent, purges... which is extremely right-wing, which is what any encyclopedia or text book will tell you.

Fascism, Nazism are all leftist, socialist, totalitarian forms of government.

pafret wrote:

While the right may be reactionary, the further right you go, the further into anarchy you are immersed.

Well, you're partially correct. Anarchy is the extreme end of Libertarianism but completely unrelated to the left-right perspective. Here's a chart that I'm sure you've seen before (many versions of the same thing) that illustrates what I mean...
http://www.exponentialimprovement.com/cms/uploads/1/politicalcompass_usprimaries_2007a.jpg
Notice how some of the political leaders line up... pretty much opposite to what you are suggesting and it makes sense too, at least in a somewhat democratic context such as our Republic because the farther right you go the more people you exclude, therefore the more value placed on the authoritarian approach to control. This is why you see the red dots representing Republicans lined up farther to the right AND closer to the authoritarian extreme. Some of the people missing from this chart are Bill Mahr a self-professed Libertarian AND very left and even more to the point, Noam Chomsky, a self-professed anarchist and very, very left.

pafret wrote:

Right of center are Libertarians and to their right are all of the militias and reactionaries.

If you're following the left-right spectrum, right of center would be the moderate conservatives... some people call them RINOs and to the right of them are the racists and fascists. I'm not sure what you mean by reactionaries, it seems to me agitated people on all sides react and as for militias, there are none. There are people who imagine themselves as militias but they're more like wannabes and I certainly wouldn't want to rely on them in this day and age, they will be the first ones eliminated.

pafret wrote:

Neocons are a horse of a totally different color, they are warmongers, haters of humanity, secret skulkers engaged in subversive overthrow of the government, probably through military coup d'etat.

Neocons are globalists and they don't need to overthrow the government, they already own the government. We will know when that changes when our military withdraws from the Middle East and Central Asia.

pafret wrote:

Why should any form of speech be considered hateful? If someone's speech offends you, don't listen or read it.

That's always been my position too. I have always held that it's my choice to be offended or not. But I don't have to be offended to recognize hate. I often respond the posts here that claim all Muslims are horrible bloodthirsty people. I'm not a Muslim and I certainly don't feel offended by such statements but I can still see how hateful it is. I'm glad you brought this up though because your statement ties into what I've said about the left-right perspective... I've noticed among conservatives, especially those who lean heavy to the right, a certain gravitation to self-interest. By suggesting all I have to do is ignore the hate speech to make it go away, you are suggesting that I am the only person I need to be concerned with. I see this assumption at the root of so many arguments from the right that I can't help but think it's part of the exclusion culture. I think it's such an ingrained part of right-wing culture that people don't even realize how self-centered they're being. I'm not like that. When I read a statement that denigrates Muslims or anyone else for that matter, I engage because I don't see the world revolving around me. I see the world as something I share with others and that is a very leftist attitude that I really don't see on the right... at all.

pafret wrote:

There is no line to be drawn; once certain words or speech are forbidden the list of forbidden speech rises asymptotically until one can say nothing without giving grievous offense to some easily scandalized twit.

Yes, I know what you mean... Look at my signature... (the quote at the bottom of all my posts) It's in direct relation to the whole concept of censoring language. I'm an advocate of free language, I think ALL words should be permitted even the ones we have to misspell to avoid being banned from the site, like f*ck and sh!t. I've been confronting the language police for decades and ya know, they are ALL conservatives. So how does the left fit into this?

Well, here's the basic difference.. Liberals tend to focus on intent, rather than actual words. You can use any words imaginable and as long as you aren't offending anyone liberals aren't going to care. Conservatives tend to get more hung up on etiquette, where the use of certain words are thought to be repulsive. I'm sure you can find exceptions, but that the general pattern that I've seen over the years.

pafret wrote:

The left's approach to others is always, to demand the Poll Parrot echo, of whatever is politically correct at the moment. You are a pack of Penguins moving in lock step.

That's all perception there my friend. Trust me, hardly a day goes by where I'm not seeing packs of right-wing penguins all screaming in unison about what those liberals are doing now. All it takes is Fox News to chirp and instantly the entire right-wing population is squawking with them. We're a media connected society pafret, this is normal behavior and there's no way you can make this just about the left anymore than I can make just about the right. I think we both this.

pafret wrote:

Hitler hated Jews because they were a convenient scapegoat. He used their success and affluence as an indicator that they were ripping off the German people and thus depriving them of their fair share of wealth. Sound familiar?

He was leveraging the existing stereotypes to give the persecution momentum. The point I made about how the communists were crossing the national front, was actually stated in his book, Mein Kampf.

pafret wrote:

Communism is the credo that all workers share equally in the wealth produced from the means of production, which are owned by the State. Jews were castigated because they accumulated all of the wealth, so were they communists or plutocrats?

What makes you think all Jews have to be the same? Yes, some of the most powerful financiers of capitalism were Jews, and they have a reputation with money, but it's also a very well-known fact that Jews also played a huge role in the Communist Revolution. Trotsky was Jewish, Lenin was Jewish, Stalin was half Jewish and the only true communist systems in the world today are in Israel.

pafret wrote:

They were an easy target; the blood libel had been used in Europe since the time of Christ to confiscate their wealth and or drive them from their homes and properties. Anti-semitism has existed through the ages, first with Christians then with Moslems and finally as a convenient rally point for totalitarian dictators such as Der Fuhrer. It was the conflict of politics fueled by religious hatred

For many people it was, but not so much for Hitler, who wasn't really a religion man. For him Jews offended his sense nationalism.

pafret wrote:

Fascism is the control of all of the means of production while allowing private ownership but again benefiting all of the people equally.

LOL - where do get this stuff? Alex Jones? Fascism isn't economic system, pafret. It's not even a theory. Fascism is a retrospective description of any system that emulates what Mussolini was doing in Italy.

pafret wrote:

This is an obvious impossibility. Nazism is Socialism, which means government control of all production and everyone on the dole.

OK... let's talk about impossibility here... How can production happen if everyone is on the dole? This is the first element of stupidity in the right-wing view of socialism. Secondly, as I have already stated, socialism in Nazi Germany was more promise than reality. The reality of Nazism was far more capitalist, but aside from creating a war market, the Nazis didn't have much to do with that. The focus of Nazism was far more centered on political ideology characterized by strong nationalism, an extreme level of authoritarianism, corporatism, militarization and hostility towards both liberalism and Marxism. These are characteristics common to developments in Italy under the Fascist Party and a few years later in Germany under the Nazi Party, which is why Nazis were considered fascists.

pafret wrote:

We in the United States are headed this way and it is the Conservatives, who in the words of Bill Buckley, stand athwart history and yell, "Stop".

LOL - I got some news for ya... the United States has had the largest socialists systems in the world since WW2. It's hard for me to fathom how a grown adult can look at our system and say... we're "heading" toward socialism.

I hope that one day you might decide to step away from the squawking parrots and do some independent study on this stuff. I don't want to offend you but the arguments you are making are the same arguments I've heard from kids in elementary school. They are the same basic arguments I've been hearing for 30 years. The problem is the world is changing and the cold war propaganda that served up pretty much all your arguments is becoming a detriment to the American people because it distracts us with all these decoys... socialism, Muslims, LGBT, immigrants, communism, terrorists... None of these things present any real threat to America compared to the one thing that is well on its way to enslaving our children. The plutocracy.

pafret wrote:

You want to make an argument out of name-calling, feel free. But, learn what the differences and similarities between these isms are before you ascribe your traits to conservatives.

LOL - Suggesting that someone learn calculus isn't going to make the conversation any easier if you think calculus is a pop-tart.

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Dec 18, 2017 04:58:06   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
PeterS wrote:
You are foulest bit#hes aren't. Why don't you crawl back into the sewer you crawled out of...

Is he suggesting that Michelle Obama is a man? LOL

They really do come up with some funny stuff, and they get so worked up over the stupidest things, like whether or not someone is a man or a woman. Someone was telling me that a lot of that stems from the frustrations of their personal lives. They need something to lash at and politics provides all the targets they could ever hope for. I just wish they wouldn't vote... I mean really, for their own sake as well ours.

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Dec 18, 2017 05:08:13   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 


You are confusing him with facts,he doesn’t like facts that don’t come from him..

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