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The US Army Just Picked A New Pistol
Dec 15, 2017 23:11:45   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be issued a new sidearm for personal protection.

Caterine DeCicco
https://www.westernjournalism.com/us-armys-newest-pistol/

According to the New York Post, the new pistol may “see more action” than its predecessor due to a design which may good for offensive purposes, particularly in close-quarters combat.

The Army has reportedly started to field the Sig Sauer XM17 and the more compact XM18, replacing the current Beretta M9, which first introduced in 1986.

The new handgun will be dispersed to all Army units over the next decade, the Post reported.

The Sig Sauer XM17 and XM18 are military variants of P320, which is available to civilians. The XM18 is compact enough for concealed carry.

“This is another 101st first,” said MG Andrew P. Poppas, 101st ABN DIV (AASLT) commander, as #ScreamingEagles became first @USArmy unit to field the service’s new pistol, the M17 or Modular Handgun System, Nov. 28.

Twenty-five @101Bastogne #Soldiers were among first to fire it. pic.twitter.com/cbTruhbqaN — 101st Airborne Div. (@101stAASLTDIV) November 29, 2017

The P320 has been used by military and law enforcement alike and is noted for its short-pull trigger reset. It is built to fit a wide range of hands.

Changes were made to the military model in order to fit Army magazine standards. Soldiers will reportedly be able to use standard and extended capacity magazines.

Reports say feedback has thus far been positive, as the weapon is said to have reliable performance on the range. Moreover, the gun is easy to shoot with little to no trigger resistance.

According to Tactical Life, the task of finding a replacement for the historic M9 was an arduous process that cost $17 million.

The P320 reportedly beat out eight other pistols that were also considered.

The contenders included the Beretta M9A3, the Beretta APX, the CZ P-09 MHS, the FN 509, the Glock 19, the Smith & Wesson M&P9, the Sphinx SDP Compact and the STI-Detonics STX.

Of major importance to the Army was the pistol’s ability to fit a vast array of soldiers.

The original request for proposal for the replacement pistol stated; “The offeror shall provide in the operator manual a detailed description of the ergonomic aspects of their pistol. This manual shall clearly detail the steps required to make adjustments to trigger reach, pistol grip or any other adjustable components to fit the range of users expected to utilize the Modular Handgun System.”

“Configurability will be evaluated based on ease of reconfiguration, ergonomic accommodation and effectiveness for the 5th to 95th percentile warfighter. The manual should also depict reconfiguration options and instructions to adjust controls from right- to left-handed use at the operator level.”

The Post reported that the new pistols will be made available to younger soldiers, and the Army also has plans to issue the gun to squad and team leaders.

The Army has already begun distribution of the pistol. The 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky was the first group to receive the new sidearm.

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Dec 15, 2017 23:30:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Doc110 wrote:
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be issued a new sidearm for personal protection.

Caterine DeCicco
https://www.westernjournalism.com/us-armys-newest-pistol/

According to the New York Post, the new pistol may “see more action” than its predecessor due to a design which may good for offensive purposes, particularly in close-quarters combat.

The Army has reportedly started to field the Sig Sauer XM17 and the more compact XM18, replacing the current Beretta M9, which first introduced in 1986.

The new handgun will be dispersed to all Army units over the next decade, the Post reported.

The Sig Sauer XM17 and XM18 are military variants of P320, which is available to civilians. The XM18 is compact enough for concealed carry.

“This is another 101st first,” said MG Andrew P. Poppas, 101st ABN DIV (AASLT) commander, as #ScreamingEagles became first @USArmy unit to field the service’s new pistol, the M17 or Modular Handgun System, Nov. 28.

Twenty-five @101Bastogne #Soldiers were among first to fire it. pic.twitter.com/cbTruhbqaN — 101st Airborne Div. (@101stAASLTDIV) November 29, 2017

The P320 has been used by military and law enforcement alike and is noted for its short-pull trigger reset. It is built to fit a wide range of hands.

Changes were made to the military model in order to fit Army magazine standards. Soldiers will reportedly be able to use standard and extended capacity magazines.

Reports say feedback has thus far been positive, as the weapon is said to have reliable performance on the range. Moreover, the gun is easy to shoot with little to no trigger resistance.

According to Tactical Life, the task of finding a replacement for the historic M9 was an arduous process that cost $17 million.

The P320 reportedly beat out eight other pistols that were also considered.

The contenders included the Beretta M9A3, the Beretta APX, the CZ P-09 MHS, the FN 509, the Glock 19, the Smith & Wesson M&P9, the Sphinx SDP Compact and the STI-Detonics STX.

Of major importance to the Army was the pistol’s ability to fit a vast array of soldiers.

The original request for proposal for the replacement pistol stated; “The offeror shall provide in the operator manual a detailed description of the ergonomic aspects of their pistol. This manual shall clearly detail the steps required to make adjustments to trigger reach, pistol grip or any other adjustable components to fit the range of users expected to utilize the Modular Handgun System.”

“Configurability will be evaluated based on ease of reconfiguration, ergonomic accommodation and effectiveness for the 5th to 95th percentile warfighter. The manual should also depict reconfiguration options and instructions to adjust controls from right- to left-handed use at the operator level.”

The Post reported that the new pistols will be made available to younger soldiers, and the Army also has plans to issue the gun to squad and team leaders.

The Army has already begun distribution of the pistol. The 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky was the first group to receive the new sidearm.
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be... (show quote)


"See more action", eh?

They'd better hurry man-up and arm-up. I have a feeling there isn't a lot of time to waste.

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Dec 16, 2017 01:40:35   #
Gatsby
 
Once again, vastly inferior to the 1911A1. Absolute Reliability under all conditions, not just the ideal conditions "on the range".

Doc110 wrote:
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be issued a new sidearm for personal protection.

Caterine DeCicco
https://www.westernjournalism.com/us-armys-newest-pistol/

According to the New York Post, the new pistol may “see more action” than its predecessor due to a design which may good for offensive purposes, particularly in close-quarters combat.

The Army has reportedly started to field the Sig Sauer XM17 and the more compact XM18, replacing the current Beretta M9, which first introduced in 1986.

The new handgun will be dispersed to all Army units over the next decade, the Post reported.

The Sig Sauer XM17 and XM18 are military variants of P320, which is available to civilians. The XM18 is compact enough for concealed carry.

“This is another 101st first,” said MG Andrew P. Poppas, 101st ABN DIV (AASLT) commander, as #ScreamingEagles became first @USArmy unit to field the service’s new pistol, the M17 or Modular Handgun System, Nov. 28.

Twenty-five @101Bastogne #Soldiers were among first to fire it. pic.twitter.com/cbTruhbqaN — 101st Airborne Div. (@101stAASLTDIV) November 29, 2017

The P320 has been used by military and law enforcement alike and is noted for its short-pull trigger reset. It is built to fit a wide range of hands.

Changes were made to the military model in order to fit Army magazine standards. Soldiers will reportedly be able to use standard and extended capacity magazines.

Reports say feedback has thus far been positive, as the weapon is said to have reliable performance on the range. Moreover, the gun is easy to shoot with little to no trigger resistance.

According to Tactical Life, the task of finding a replacement for the historic M9 was an arduous process that cost $17 million.

The P320 reportedly beat out eight other pistols that were also considered.

The contenders included the Beretta M9A3, the Beretta APX, the CZ P-09 MHS, the FN 509, the Glock 19, the Smith & Wesson M&P9, the Sphinx SDP Compact and the STI-Detonics STX.

Of major importance to the Army was the pistol’s ability to fit a vast array of soldiers.

The original request for proposal for the replacement pistol stated; “The offeror shall provide in the operator manual a detailed description of the ergonomic aspects of their pistol. This manual shall clearly detail the steps required to make adjustments to trigger reach, pistol grip or any other adjustable components to fit the range of users expected to utilize the Modular Handgun System.”

“Configurability will be evaluated based on ease of reconfiguration, ergonomic accommodation and effectiveness for the 5th to 95th percentile warfighter. The manual should also depict reconfiguration options and instructions to adjust controls from right- to left-handed use at the operator level.”

The Post reported that the new pistols will be made available to younger soldiers, and the Army also has plans to issue the gun to squad and team leaders.

The Army has already begun distribution of the pistol. The 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky was the first group to receive the new sidearm.
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be... (show quote)

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Dec 16, 2017 11:13:45   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Gatsby wrote:
Once again, vastly inferior to the 1911A1. Absolute Reliability under all conditions, not just the ideal conditions "on the range".


I didn't say that but I thought that.

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Dec 16, 2017 21:19:58   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
So this means if I were still in I'd have to qualify with the XM17 ? Damn, can I still do it ? Loved my 9, would just be a hoot to go through a course with a new weapon.
Doc110 wrote:
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be issued a new sidearm for personal protection.

Caterine DeCicco
https://www.westernjournalism.com/us-armys-newest-pistol/

According to the New York Post, the new pistol may “see more action” than its predecessor due to a design which may good for offensive purposes, particularly in close-quarters combat.

The Army has reportedly started to field the Sig Sauer XM17 and the more compact XM18, replacing the current Beretta M9, which first introduced in 1986.

The new handgun will be dispersed to all Army units over the next decade, the Post reported.

The Sig Sauer XM17 and XM18 are military variants of P320, which is available to civilians. The XM18 is compact enough for concealed carry.

“This is another 101st first,” said MG Andrew P. Poppas, 101st ABN DIV (AASLT) commander, as #ScreamingEagles became first @USArmy unit to field the service’s new pistol, the M17 or Modular Handgun System, Nov. 28.

Twenty-five @101Bastogne #Soldiers were among first to fire it. pic.twitter.com/cbTruhbqaN — 101st Airborne Div. (@101stAASLTDIV) November 29, 2017

The P320 has been used by military and law enforcement alike and is noted for its short-pull trigger reset. It is built to fit a wide range of hands.

Changes were made to the military model in order to fit Army magazine standards. Soldiers will reportedly be able to use standard and extended capacity magazines.

Reports say feedback has thus far been positive, as the weapon is said to have reliable performance on the range. Moreover, the gun is easy to shoot with little to no trigger resistance.

According to Tactical Life, the task of finding a replacement for the historic M9 was an arduous process that cost $17 million.

The P320 reportedly beat out eight other pistols that were also considered.

The contenders included the Beretta M9A3, the Beretta APX, the CZ P-09 MHS, the FN 509, the Glock 19, the Smith & Wesson M&P9, the Sphinx SDP Compact and the STI-Detonics STX.

Of major importance to the Army was the pistol’s ability to fit a vast array of soldiers.

The original request for proposal for the replacement pistol stated; “The offeror shall provide in the operator manual a detailed description of the ergonomic aspects of their pistol. This manual shall clearly detail the steps required to make adjustments to trigger reach, pistol grip or any other adjustable components to fit the range of users expected to utilize the Modular Handgun System.”

“Configurability will be evaluated based on ease of reconfiguration, ergonomic accommodation and effectiveness for the 5th to 95th percentile warfighter. The manual should also depict reconfiguration options and instructions to adjust controls from right- to left-handed use at the operator level.”

The Post reported that the new pistols will be made available to younger soldiers, and the Army also has plans to issue the gun to squad and team leaders.

The Army has already begun distribution of the pistol. The 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky was the first group to receive the new sidearm.
12/14/2017 Soldiers in the U.S. Army might soon be... (show quote)

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Dec 16, 2017 21:52:08   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Gatsby wrote:
Once again, vastly inferior to the 1911A1. Absolute Reliability under all conditions, not just the ideal conditions "on the range".


Then you will be very pleased to know the House just approved the sale of surplus military weapons (read that 1911) to civilians once again.

https://www.military.com/kitup/2017/11/army-sell-surplus-1911-pistols.html

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Dec 16, 2017 22:03:18   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Roger That Ghost, thanks will check it.
ghostgotcha wrote:
Then you will be very pleased to know the House just approved the sale of surplus military weapons (read that 1911) to civilians once again.

https://www.military.com/kitup/2017/11/army-sell-surplus-1911-pistols.html

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Dec 17, 2017 00:15:58   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
So this means if I were still in I'd have to qualify with the XM17 ? Damn, can I still do it ? Loved my 9, would just be a hoot to go through a course with a new weapon.


I qualified expert with the 1911. (I was an MP.) Goes to show how damn old I am, I guess. I carried a 1911 for a long time. Right now I mostly carry a Glock 21. It's the only firearm I own that is not for sale or trade.
Like I said, "I'm Loki and I'm a Glockaholic."

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Dec 17, 2017 10:22:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Loki wrote:
I qualified expert with the 1911. (I was an MP.) Goes to show how damn old I am, I guess. I carried a 1911 for a long time. Right now I mostly carry a Glock 21. It's the only firearm I own that is not for sale or trade.
Like I said, "I'm Loki and I'm a Glockaholic."


I can't hit the ground I'm standing on (small exaggeration, maybe) but I have a damn good throwing arm and after my magazine is empty I'd much rather bean the sunufabich I missed with a 1911A than any other pistol...'cept for maybe an old Browning Hi Power.

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Dec 17, 2017 10:34:42   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
The Sig 320 series is one of the most balanced weapons in the down position and the shooting position and one of the most simplest weapons to assemble and disassemble and clean in three pieces.

Replacement Recoil Spring for P320 full size = 10,000 rounds.
and replacement Compact & Subcompact Recoil Spring = 5,000 rounds.

And the Sig 320 series can be inter-changed with a with a 9mm, 40 and 357 barrel. There is also various Pistol Grips attachment that can be added and to make the pistol into a small carbine rifle.

Now thats versatile.

And hardly any recoil, for a more accurate firing and target hitting.

Really, I't's as reliable as the 1911A under all weather and battle conditions .

Sig P320 Compact Technical Specs

Barrel Length 3.9″
Overall Length 7.2″
Height 5.3″
Width 1.4″
Weight (unloaded w/ magazine)
1.61 lbs (25.8 oz)
Sights SIGLITE Night Sights
Action Striker-fired single-action
External Safety N/A
Ammo Capacity 15+1
Measured trigger pull weight ~7 lbs
Included Accessories Two 15-round magazines, injection molded paddle holster
MSRP $713 ($628 w/o night sights)


[quote=BigMike

I can't hit the ground I'm standing on (small exaggeration, maybe) but I have a damn good throwing arm and after my magazine is empty I'd much rather bean the sunufabich I missed with a 1911A than any other pistol...'cept for maybe an old Browning Hi Power.[/quote]











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Dec 17, 2017 12:06:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Doc110 wrote:
The Sig 320 series is one of the most balanced weapons in the down position and the shooting position and one of the most simplest weapons to assemble and disassemble and clean in three pieces.

Replacement Recoil Spring for P320 full size = 10,000 rounds.
and replacement Compact & Subcompact Recoil Spring = 5,000 rounds.

And the Sig 320 series can be inter-changed with a with a 9mm, 40 and 357 barrel. There is also various Pistol Grips attachment that can be added and to make the pistol into a small carbine rifle.

Now thats versatile.

And hardly any recoil, for a more accurate firing and target hitting.

Really, I't's as reliable as the 1911A under all weather and battle conditions .

Sig P320 Compact Technical Specs

Barrel Length 3.9″
Overall Length 7.2″
Height 5.3″
Width 1.4″
Weight (unloaded w/ magazine)
1.61 lbs (25.8 oz)
Sights SIGLITE Night Sights
Action Striker-fired single-action
External Safety N/A
Ammo Capacity 15+1
Measured trigger pull weight ~7 lbs
Included Accessories Two 15-round magazines, injection molded paddle holster
MSRP $713 ($628 w/o night sights)
The Sig 320 series is one of the most balanced wea... (show quote)


I like that it has a .357 barrel...I like .357s.

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Dec 17, 2017 12:26:04   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Yup,

Stoping power.

BigMike wrote:
I like that it has a .357 barrel...I like .357s.

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