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Dec 16, 2017 23:13:38   #
at41
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
In addition, and I don't know why the CIA did this, but they created a new past for obama, social security numbers, draft card, and even a phony family and two Renta Daughters.
I've been studying obama since he first slithered onto the scene in 2004.
He was trained to look presidential and groomed to grin like a jackass while he sold Marxism and Islam and made it look okay.
Obama is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on any country at any time in history. And nobody in authority to do anything about it does so. They are too far into the lie to get out of it. Sad for America.
In addition, and I don't know why the CIA did this... (show quote)


Why don't you take your proof of these allegations and go to the authorities and Fox news to start an investigation?

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Dec 16, 2017 23:21:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
A concentrated Balmore and an Arturo Fuente. Whose last request?
Is kid kim's missile coming over?
I keep a stash of Cuban vintage cigars and Camel cigarettes and a variety of liquors sourced from every state and abroad to go out in humor when the kid launches his missiles to me. Better to sip and puff than duck and cover.


I am sure you have a variety fit for all occasions including the grand finale...
What is your favorite?

Believe it or not I like an occasional puff from the Romeo Julieta.. its flavor extraordinary...Usually enjoyed with a cognac while sipping..Hypnotic is a nice smooth blend of cognac and brandy that I find tastes very good usually my sipper if out..

I’m not much of a drinker.. Never at home but do when I go out.. Well wait, I do enjoy a nice red wine with dinner sometimes or when in here while listening to music and reading this or that..

It’s sleeting here right now so I’m sipping baileys n cream in my coffee..Francesca another smooth blend liquor in coffee is also good.. ..

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Dec 17, 2017 00:46:52   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Here is another video pretty much stating the same thing as the others but the difference here is that this is coming from a pretty much no bullshit YouTube channel that uses other verified sources of information. Im telling you my friends and those that are not here on OPP that I wouldnt be the least bit surprised that this information is being spread around like wild fire and before to long it may actually hit the MSM who of course will start soing their misinformation campaign as they normally do as they push their ANTI AMERICAN PROPAGANDA. I sincerely hope this actually does become an issue for the MSM to start their BS on this. Because if thgis information were to start becoming an issue for the progressive left you know for damn sure their concerned about it. Just sayin.
Semper Fi

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Dec 17, 2017 01:08:18   #
Steve700
 
at41 wrote:
You're saying President Trumps "lied" for political expediency. Does this mean that he can and will lie anytime that he feels it is "politically " necessary ?

Never to the extent of liberals. More often he exaggerates or state something as true, that he feels is probably true, but is really not so sure of. Quite different from the corruption he is trying to end end the constant ongoing decietful manipulation of thought and opinion by the left. For instance your political correctness which is censorship, suppression of truth and a war on truth is also a dirty tactic of making false accusations to stifle discomforting facts, avoid debate and walk away feeling as though you have won.

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Dec 17, 2017 01:19:58   #
Steve700
 
at41 wrote:
Why don't you take your proof of these allegations and go to the authorities and Fox news to start an investigation?

Full investigations have already been done and the facts indicating that longform birth certificates are absolutely overwhelming. It has also been taken to court and the judge immediately threw it out, refusing to hear it. (Just like the coroner refused to come out to the scene of Supreme Court justice Scolia's death. These people understand the power of the deep state and shadow government, and the lengths to which they will go. I'm sure the judge didn't want to end up on Obama's Deadpool list of suspicious deaths of the people who were a threat to him Like his own grandmother (who She Was There and Obama's Birth in Kenya), 3 gay lovers from Jeremiah Wright's church, Loretta Fuddy, the friend and fellow cult member of Obama's mother who mysteriously got appointed to the Hawaii Department of Health and who issued that birth certificate (dead within a month after that), Judge Scolia, Joan Rivers and scores of others.

Also, Fox ain't going to say nothing. They are deep state controlled also and are limited in what they can't say. And that's a fact
Look at my post, 4th one down from the top on page!

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Dec 17, 2017 02:28:59   #
boofhead
 
DaleWe wrote:
Follow up. The Supreme has already clarified the meaning of natural born citizen in the case, Minor v. Happersett 88 U.S. 162 (1874). Look it up


In fact this was about suffrage, not citizenship. Mrs Minor was never doubted to be a citizen and was also natural born but the definition or clarification of the meaning of the words was not part of the case and not subject to legal opinion. If you actually read it you will see that the most acceptable definition of natural born is by having a citizen father at the time of the birth. The location is not important; the child can be born anywhere in the world and still be natural born if his/her father was a citizen. Being born in the US can make one a citizen, sure, although that is not the complete story because the 14th amendment adds a condition "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" which means that anchor babies cannot be citizens, contrary to how that amendment is being interpreted nowadays. A person born in the US and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, which means that the mother or father were in the country legally, would be native born and a citizen. Also natural born if the father was a citizen.

The citizens of each state constituted the citizens of the United States when the Constitution was adopted. ... ... Supreme Court Justice Peter Vivian Daniel disagreed with this position and considered natural born citizen as every person born of citizen parents within the United States.

IRREFUTABLE AUTHORITY HAS SPOKEN

(Oct. 18, 2009) — The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned that the Supreme Court of the United States has given the definition of what a “natural born citizen” is. Since being a natural born citizen is an objective qualification and requirement of office for the U.S. President, it is important for all U.S. Citizens to understand what this term means.

Let’s cut through all the opinion and speculation, all the “he says”, “she says”, fluff, and go right to the irrefutable, constitutional authority on all terms and phrases mentioned in the U.S. Constitution: the Supreme Court of the United States.

First, let me note that there are 4 such cases which speak of the notion of “natural born citizenship”.

Each of these cases will cite or apply the definition of this term, as given in a book entitled, The Law of Nations, written by Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss-German philosopher of law. In that book, the following definition of a “natural born citizen” appears, in Book I, Chapter 19, § 212, of the English translation of 1797 (p. 110):

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. . . .

The French original of 1757, on that same passage read thus:

Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays de parents citoyens, . . .

The terms “natives” and “natural born citizens” are obviously English terms; used to render the idea convyed by the French phrase “les naturels, ou indigenes”: but both refered to the same category of citizen: one born in the country, of parents who were citizens of that country.

In the political philosophy of Vattel, the term “naturels” refers to citizens who are such by the Law of Nature, that is by the natural cirumstances of their birth — which they did not choose; the term “indigenes” is from the Latin, indigenes, which like the English, “indigenous”, means “begotten from within” (inde-genes), as in the phrase “the indigenous natives are the peoples who have been born and lived there for generations.” Hence the meaning the the term, “natural born citizen”, or “naturels ou indigenes” is the same: born in the country of two parents who are citizens of that country.

Vattel did not invent the notion “natural born citizen”; he was merely applying the Law of Nature to questions of citizenship. In fact the term first appears in a letter of the future Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, to George Washington during the Constitutional Convention, where the Framers were consulting 3 copies Vattel’s book to complete their work (according to the testimony of Benjamin Franklin).

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

In this case, Wong Kim Ark, the son of 2 resident Chinese aliens, claimed U.S. Citizenship and was vindicated by the court on the basis of the 14th Amendment. In this case the Justice Gray gave the opinion of the court. On p. 168-9 of the record, He cites approvingly the decision in Minor vs. Happersett:

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

On the basis of the 14th Amendment, however, the majority opinion coined a new definition for “native citizen”, as anyone who was born in the U.S.A., under the jurisdiction of the United States. The Court gave a novel interpretation to jurisdiction, and thus extended citizenship to all born in the country (excepting those born of ambassadors and foreign armies etc.); but it did not extend the meaning of the term “natural born citizen.”

Finally it should be noted, that to define a term is to indicate the category or class of things which it signifies. In this sense, the Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Hence every U.S. Citizen must accept this definition or categorical designation, and fulfil his constitutional duties accordingly. No member of Congress, no judge of the Federal Judiciary, no elected or appointed official in Federal or State government has the right to use any other definition; and if he does, he is acting unlawfully, because unconstitutionally.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/

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Dec 17, 2017 07:33:00   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Steve, they are all afraid of being killed, like so many others that tried to bring things to light.
He had Soros backing him at every turn. People were paid handsomely, or the fear of being killed.
Fox has too many liberal views too. They used to be better than now. Nothing will ever be done to him.
He is the reason we are in this racial division now. It has always been bad, but now worse than ever. Like the Trevon Martin thing, him saying what he did about him and a son. He deceived so many. He is not the antichrist, but I believe he is helping to usher him in.
We are in a mess, for sure, just going to get worse!

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Dec 17, 2017 08:41:12   #
Mikeyavelli
 
at41 wrote:
You're saying President Trumps "lied" for political expediency. Does this mean that he can and will lie anytime that he feels it is "politically " necessary ?


You see, for the media, a Trump lie is that he said he arrived at noon when the media clocked him in at 12 :15. That's a lie.

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Dec 17, 2017 08:44:34   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Steve, they are all afraid of being killed, like so many others that tried to bring things to light.
He had Soros backing him at every turn. People were paid handsomely, or the fear of being killed.
Fox has too many liberal views too. They used to be better than now. Nothing will ever be done to him.
He is the reason we are in this racial division now. It has always been bad, but now worse than ever. Like the Trevon Martin thing, him saying what he did about him and a son. He deceived so many. He is not the antichrist, but I believe he is helping to usher him in.
We are in a mess, for sure, just going to get worse!
Steve, they are all afraid of being killed, like ... (show quote)


"I believe he is helping to usher him in." He did that's how we got Trump.

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Dec 17, 2017 09:50:34   #
rlockwood
 
Judges have really deep pockets so paying them off would be easy, that is why Obama got away with all the shit he did. He just paid off everyone so it would be swept under the rug.

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Dec 17, 2017 10:00:02   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
rlockwood wrote:
Judges have really deep pockets so paying them off would be easy, that is why Obama got away with all the shit he did. He just paid off everyone so it would be swept under the rug.


Yeah and Soros gave him the money.



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Dec 17, 2017 10:02:00   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You see, for the media, a Trump lie is that he said he arrived at noon when the media clocked him in at 12 :15. That's a lie.


Right and Mexico is going to pay for the wall.

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Dec 17, 2017 10:35:25   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Yeah and Soros gave him the money.


YEP!!

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Dec 17, 2017 10:35:50   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Right and Mexico is going to pay for the wall.


YEP!!

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Dec 17, 2017 10:37:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
kankune wrote:
YEP!!



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