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Dec 16, 2017 12:20:12   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration could get any more childish... Now they are subjecting the doctors and scientists involved with the Center for Disease Control to a list of forbidden words. Yes, that's right, these are words the CDC is not allowed to use in their reports. Here they are...

1. vulnerable
2. entitlement
3. diversity
4. transgender
5. fetus
6. evidence-based
7. science-based

OK, Trump supporters... I can't wait to hear your excuses for this one. Do the morons in the White House actually think forbidding the use of these words will impede the ability of much smarter people to communicate their concerns to the public?

I can communicate around those words easily...

The Trump Administration is making efforts to suppress recognition of our multi-cultural heritage [diversity] and the freedom of identity, especially when it involves sex reassignment [transgender]. Evidently, they don't want to hear about how exposed the impoverished are [vulnerable] to the exploitation he encourages. They apparently want us all to forget the safety nets and securities [entitlements] that Americans fought hard for when trying to make America a better place for people to live. I would also seem they don't want us to think about the handouts [entitlements] that his tax policy lavishes on the elite. It looks like they don't want medical professionals to address any of the potential dangers to an unhatched or unborn, post-embryonic vertebrate [fetus] either and of course any recommendations based on scientific research [science-based] or any judgement based on empirical evidence [evidence-based] is discouraged.

Thing is... if enough of us had the ability to think this would be laughable. But the sad truth is too many of us can't think, or don't think because we're too busy being led by emotional outrage, fear and loathing. I was thinking about this when I got to the end of the article and saw the comments, one of which made the point of reminding us that the Nazis did the same thing.... Here's what it said...

The German Nazis called it "Gleichschaltung"— meaning "Coordination"—the policy of massive repression by which government agencies and personnel, professional societies, the press, cultural and societal institutions, and citizens were coerced into conforming to Nazi ideology. As a totalitarian measure its design was to silence all who opposed the Nazi regime as well as all whom the Nazi regime opposed.

Censorship was a key strategy behind this transition to fascism and like the current censorship of the Drumpf Administration, the words are not obscenities used to insult or repulse, they are words that are used in professional lexicons to effectively communicate. Clearly, this is not a measure taken for the sake of decency but a measure taken to advance Gleichschaltung in America.

Censorship of the CDC

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Dec 16, 2017 12:31:06   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration could get any more childish... Now they are subjecting the doctors and scientists involved with the Center for Disease Control to a list of forbidden words. Yes, that's right, these are words the CDC is not allowed to use in their reports. Here they are...

1. vulnerable
2. entitlement
3. diversity
4. transgender
5. fetus
6. evidence-based
7. science-based

OK, Trump supporters... I can't wait to hear your excuses for this one. Do the morons in the White House actually think forbidding the use of these words will impede the ability of much smarter people to communicate their concerns to the public?

I can communicate around those words easily...

The Trump Administration is making efforts to suppress recognition of our multi-cultural heritage [diversity] and the freedom of identity, especially when it involves sex reassignment [transgender]. Evidently, they don't want to hear about how exposed the impoverished are [vulnerable] to the exploitation he encourages. They apparently want us all to forget the safety nets and securities [entitlements] that Americans fought hard for when trying to make America a better place for people to live. I would also seem they don't want us to think about the handouts [entitlements] that his tax policy lavishes on the elite. It looks like they don't want medical professionals to address any of the potential dangers to an unhatched or unborn, post-embryonic vertebrate [fetus] either and of course any recommendations based on scientific research [science-based] or any judgement based on empirical evidence [evidence-based] is discouraged.

Thing is... if enough of us had the ability to think this would be laughable. But the sad truth is too many of us can't think, or don't think because we're too busy being led by emotional outrage, fear and loathing. I was thinking about this when I got to the end of the article and saw the comments, one of which made the point of reminding us that the Nazis did the same thing.... Here's what it said...

The German Nazis called it "Gleichschaltung"— meaning "Coordination"—the policy of massive repression by which government agencies and personnel, professional societies, the press, cultural and societal institutions, and citizens were coerced into conforming to Nazi ideology. As a totalitarian measure its design was to silence all who opposed the Nazi regime as well as all whom the Nazi regime opposed.

Censorship was a key strategy behind this transition to fascism and like the current censorship of the Drumpf Administration, the words are not obscenities used to insult or repulse, they are words that are used in professional lexicons to effectively communicate. Clearly, this is not a measure taken for the sake of decency but a measure taken to advance Gleichschaltung in America.

Censorship of the CDC

Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration ... (show quote)
the report was from the WASHINGTON NEWS
I would hardly call that factual

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Dec 16, 2017 12:32:53   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
badbobby wrote:
the report was from the WASHINGTON NEWS
I would hardly call that factual

The report was from the Washington Post, the paper that exposed Watergate. Talk to me when you learn not to get confused before you even get past the title.

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Dec 16, 2017 12:41:05   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
it's all queerbait speak, i can hear it No~w

they'll say--- we're vul~~nerable
because cletus says we cant make a fe~tus
n' we deserve enti~~tlement
because we're dive~~rse
and identify ourselves as transge~~nder
n' my name's jimmy marie; now whats ya gonna give me?

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Dec 16, 2017 12:41:41   #
PeterS
 
straightUp wrote:
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration could get any more childish... Now they are subjecting the doctors and scientists involved with the Center for Disease Control to a list of forbidden words. Yes, that's right, these are words the CDC is not allowed to use in their reports. Here they are...

1. vulnerable
2. entitlement
3. diversity
4. transgender
5. fetus
6. evidence-based
7. science-based

OK, Trump supporters... I can't wait to hear your excuses for this one. Do the morons in the White House actually think forbidding the use of these words will impede the ability of much smarter people to communicate their concerns to the public?

I can communicate around those words easily...

The Trump Administration is making efforts to suppress recognition of our multi-cultural heritage [diversity] and the freedom of identity, especially when it involves sex reassignment [transgender]. Evidently, they don't want to hear about how exposed the impoverished are [vulnerable] to the exploitation he encourages. They apparently want us all to forget the safety nets and securities [entitlements] that Americans fought hard for when trying to make America a better place for people to live. I would also seem they don't want us to think about the handouts [entitlements] that his tax policy lavishes on the elite. It looks like they don't want medical professionals to address any of the potential dangers to an unhatched or unborn, post-embryonic vertebrate [fetus] either and of course any recommendations based on scientific research [science-based] or any judgement based on empirical evidence [evidence-based] is discouraged.

Thing is... if enough of us had the ability to think this would be laughable. But the sad truth is too many of us can't think, or don't think because we're too busy being led by emotional outrage, fear and loathing. I was thinking about this when I got to the end of the article and saw the comments, one of which made the point of reminding us that the Nazis did the same thing.... Here's what it said...

The German Nazis called it "Gleichschaltung"— meaning "Coordination"—the policy of massive repression by which government agencies and personnel, professional societies, the press, cultural and societal institutions, and citizens were coerced into conforming to Nazi ideology. As a totalitarian measure its design was to silence all who opposed the Nazi regime as well as all whom the Nazi regime opposed.

Censorship was a key strategy behind this transition to fascism and like the current censorship of the Drumpf Administration, the words are not obscenities used to insult or repulse, they are words that are used in professional lexicons to effectively communicate. Clearly, this is not a measure taken for the sake of decency but a measure taken to advance Gleichschaltung in America.

Censorship of the CDC
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration ... (show quote)


Nicely done. I'm still laughing...

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Dec 16, 2017 12:44:06   #
PeterS
 
badbobby wrote:
the report was from the WASHINGTON NEWS
I would hardly call that factual

So if you can't disprove something you just say it not factual? Tell me, does that make it so?

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Dec 16, 2017 12:54:16   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
straightUp wrote:
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration could get any more childish... Now they are subjecting the doctors and scientists involved with the Center for Disease Control to a list of forbidden words. Yes, that's right, these are words the CDC is not allowed to use in their reports. Here they are...

1. vulnerable
2. entitlement
3. diversity
4. transgender
5. fetus
6. evidence-based
7. science-based

OK, Trump supporters... I can't wait to hear your excuses for this one. Do the morons in the White House actually think forbidding the use of these words will impede the ability of much smarter people to communicate their concerns to the public?

I can communicate around those words easily...

The Trump Administration is making efforts to suppress recognition of our multi-cultural heritage [diversity] and the freedom of identity, especially when it involves sex reassignment [transgender]. Evidently, they don't want to hear about how exposed the impoverished are [vulnerable] to the exploitation he encourages. They apparently want us all to forget the safety nets and securities [entitlements] that Americans fought hard for when trying to make America a better place for people to live. I would also seem they don't want us to think about the handouts [entitlements] that his tax policy lavishes on the elite. It looks like they don't want medical professionals to address any of the potential dangers to an unhatched or unborn, post-embryonic vertebrate [fetus] either and of course any recommendations based on scientific research [science-based] or any judgement based on empirical evidence [evidence-based] is discouraged.

Thing is... if enough of us had the ability to think this would be laughable. But the sad truth is too many of us can't think, or don't think because we're too busy being led by emotional outrage, fear and loathing. I was thinking about this when I got to the end of the article and saw the comments, one of which made the point of reminding us that the Nazis did the same thing.... Here's what it said...

The German Nazis called it "Gleichschaltung"— meaning "Coordination"—the policy of massive repression by which government agencies and personnel, professional societies, the press, cultural and societal institutions, and citizens were coerced into conforming to Nazi ideology. As a totalitarian measure its design was to silence all who opposed the Nazi regime as well as all whom the Nazi regime opposed.

Censorship was a key strategy behind this transition to fascism and like the current censorship of the Drumpf Administration, the words are not obscenities used to insult or repulse, they are words that are used in professional lexicons to effectively communicate. Clearly, this is not a measure taken for the sake of decency but a measure taken to advance Gleichschaltung in America.

Censorship of the CDC
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration ... (show quote)


I found it interesting that when I saw the title, I used IM Translator to get the word's meaning in English. This is what the translator says it means: "DC circuit!”

While the same information can be communicated in other words, the censorship has achieved the desired effect because just as the wordsmith can say he didn't mean any of those words, the reader now has to infer that this is what was meant. Brevity is clarity; the use of circumlocutions introduces confusion and uncertainty in the reader and impedes effective communication. This is the intent; forbidding the use of certain words is a major step in controlling truth. Big Brother is tightening the noose; reality is what the government says it is.

Is it not remarkable that there is no single person who can be assigned responsibility for issuing such an order? How do the researchers know that penalties will be imposed if they don't follow the dictates? Where are the guardians of the constitution who say you cannot suppress free speech?

This issue is not the same as the Trump administration doing all of these freedom-suppressing actions. I would suspect that this is exactly what Trump does not want. Instead it is the entrenched bureaucracy, imposing leftist political correctness, on other government agencies. There is an evil in this imposition of thought control but it is by no means certain that Trump is behind it. The man is a blunt instrument; he is hardly likely to espouse speech suppression.

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Dec 16, 2017 13:08:40   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
11r20 wrote:
it's all queerbait speak, i can hear it No~w

they'll say--- we're vul~~nerable
because cletus says we cant make a fe~tus
n' we deserve enti~~tlement
because we're dive~~rse
and identify ourselves as transge~~nder
n' my name's jimmy marie; now whats ya gonna give me?


See folks, this is all part of the emotional outrage that will drive us to fascism. IQ of 11 (or 20) is ranting about "queerbait speak" because he has an emotional issue with queers. On the left we aren't scared of queers but on the right, they're totally freaked out - to the point where they are willing to accept censorship.

Why are they so freaked out?

I tend to think it's because they are scared of being queer. So many tough-talking conservatives have been exposed as closet-case faggots that the pattern is becoming clear. For a closet-case queer, an emphatic rant against queers is the best cover.

For anyone else that isn't a Nazi, the censorship of words like "diversity" presents no value worth endangering our free society.

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Dec 16, 2017 13:21:38   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
See folks, this is all part of the emotional outrage that will drive us to fascism. IQ of 11 (or 20) is ranting about "queerbait speak"


its called "Gallows Humor" now go find yer pusxy hat fer yer next antifa riot "hippy"

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Dec 16, 2017 13:30:54   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
straightUp, This is as crazy as crazy gets. The only thing that is crazier is the fact that nobody in the CDC is protesting this idiocy. CNN interviewed several former journalists, pundits and former Trump people and what they all agreed on was that the Donald doesn't like to hear bad news. This is related to that fact.
straightUp wrote:
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration could get any more childish... Now they are subjecting the doctors and scientists involved with the Center for Disease Control to a list of forbidden words. Yes, that's right, these are words the CDC is not allowed to use in their reports. Here they are...

1. vulnerable
2. entitlement
3. diversity
4. transgender
5. fetus
6. evidence-based
7. science-based

OK, Trump supporters... I can't wait to hear your excuses for this one. Do the morons in the White House actually think forbidding the use of these words will impede the ability of much smarter people to communicate their concerns to the public?

I can communicate around those words easily...

The Trump Administration is making efforts to suppress recognition of our multi-cultural heritage [diversity] and the freedom of identity, especially when it involves sex reassignment [transgender]. Evidently, they don't want to hear about how exposed the impoverished are [vulnerable] to the exploitation he encourages. They apparently want us all to forget the safety nets and securities [entitlements] that Americans fought hard for when trying to make America a better place for people to live. I would also seem they don't want us to think about the handouts [entitlements] that his tax policy lavishes on the elite. It looks like they don't want medical professionals to address any of the potential dangers to an unhatched or unborn, post-embryonic vertebrate [fetus] either and of course any recommendations based on scientific research [science-based] or any judgement based on empirical evidence [evidence-based] is discouraged.

Thing is... if enough of us had the ability to think this would be laughable. But the sad truth is too many of us can't think, or don't think because we're too busy being led by emotional outrage, fear and loathing. I was thinking about this when I got to the end of the article and saw the comments, one of which made the point of reminding us that the Nazis did the same thing.... Here's what it said...

The German Nazis called it "Gleichschaltung"— meaning "Coordination"—the policy of massive repression by which government agencies and personnel, professional societies, the press, cultural and societal institutions, and citizens were coerced into conforming to Nazi ideology. As a totalitarian measure its design was to silence all who opposed the Nazi regime as well as all whom the Nazi regime opposed.

Censorship was a key strategy behind this transition to fascism and like the current censorship of the Drumpf Administration, the words are not obscenities used to insult or repulse, they are words that are used in professional lexicons to effectively communicate. Clearly, this is not a measure taken for the sake of decency but a measure taken to advance Gleichschaltung in America.

Censorship of the CDC
Just when I didn't think the Trump Administration ... (show quote)

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Dec 16, 2017 13:43:07   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Washington Compost and C""ommieN""ewsN""etwork

Bezos was paid 600 mil for see'eye'aye cloud system
Anderson Crooper is see'eye'aye

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Dec 16, 2017 13:59:12   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
straightUp, This is as crazy as crazy gets. The only thing that is crazier is the fact that nobody in the CDC is protesting this idiocy. CNN interviewed several former journalists, pundits and former Trump people and what they all agreed on was that the Donald doesn't like to hear bad news. This is related to that fact.


Salty I really can't buy into what you are claiming about Trump. I have been in supervisory and managerial positions for many years of my working career and the biggest problem I had was in subordinates sugar coating or supressing bad news. Nothing ever goes as planned because we are not omniscent. When people keep information from you it leads to making bad decisions as to what course of action to take. I tried to impress on my people that we could fix any problem but first we had to know what the problem was.

Invariably, some weenie would take it upon himself to conceal information until we had a disaster, usually to cover their asses. Corporate policies being what they are, I had to build a case over a years time, documentuing every infraction and failure to complete assignments in proper time. It was distasteful, a royal pain and a lot of work but without it I couldn't get rid of perpetual morons. The simpler way was to lend the guy out on a permanent basis to some other unsuspecting manager, which is how I got most of my losers in the first place.

This is probably the reason why there are so many complete idiots in the Federal Buraucracy. Civil Service regulations make them immune to dismissal unless their moral behavior is egregious. After a few years they become masters at CYA and effectively retire on the job. In the meantime they hide every problem possible to avoid the work of fixing it and to avoid guilt.

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Dec 16, 2017 14:56:55   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
pafret wrote:
I found it interesting that when I saw the title, I used IM Translator to get the word's meaning in English. This is what the translator says it means: "DC circuit!”

I just tried it and it translated to Gleichschaltung to "Forcing into line". Maybe you didn't do it right.

pafret wrote:

While the same information can be communicated in other words, the censorship has achieved the desired effect because just as the wordsmith can say he didn't mean any of those words, the reader now has to infer that this is what was meant. Brevity is clarity; the use of circumlocutions introduces confusion and uncertainty in the reader and impedes effective communication. This is the intent; forbidding the use of certain words is a major step in controlling truth. Big Brother is tightening the noose; reality is what the government says it is.
br While the same information can be communicated... (show quote)

I do agree with you, that brevity is clarity, which is the point of an extensive vocabulary and taking words away from the vocabulary does impede the efficiency of language. I was being positive about this by pointing out the ability for many people to communicate the same ideas using alternate expressions, but you're right, for many others such articulation is more difficult to write OR read. I think its pretty obvious that Trump's regime is focused on the less literate people, who have become his base. As long as his regime commands the attitudes of a base large enough to win elections, the more educated groups will matter less and censorship becomes a validated strategy.

pafret wrote:

Is it not remarkable that there is no single person who can be assigned responsibility for issuing such an order?

Not really. Maybe you haven't worked for a large organization before, but in my corporate environment I have to abide by lots of rules that are just considered corporate policy. We don't ask which person was responsible for each rule because it doesn't matter. The fact is, policies are often ratified by committee, not dictated by individuals.

We know that Alison Kelly (CDC) was told by the Department of Heath and Human Services not to use those words as a matter of HHS policy. We also know that the CDC falls under the Department of HHS, which itself falls under the Executive Branch. We also know that since Trump has taken over the Executive Branch many of the departments under his control have been removing critical information from their records, polices and websites related to subjects they don't want us to think about or know about.

pafret wrote:

How do the researchers know that penalties will be imposed if they don't follow the dictates?

Well, according to the article that I guess you didn't read, Alison Kelly was submitting a budget request to the HHS and it was refused BECAUSE of the words. So to get the money to research the threat of disease they had to remove the verboten words. This is an approach Trump is becoming famous for as someone who can't seem to get the democratic support to legislate, so he puts conditions on funding.

pafret wrote:

Where are the guardians of the constitution who say you cannot suppress free speech?

The Constitution only applies to laws not policies.

pafret wrote:

This issue is not the same as the Trump administration doing all of these freedom-suppressing actions.

Clearly, it is... one of many examples in fact.

pafret wrote:

I would suspect that this is exactly what Trump does not want. Instead it is the entrenched bureaucracy, imposing leftist political correctness, on other government agencies.

Wow... I don't whether to call that wishful thinking or heavy delusion, but it shouldn't take THAT many brains cells to look at the list and notice there's nothing politically incorrect about ANY of the words mentioned. Yeah, liberals are in an uproar over words like diversity. LOL - get real.

Besides, Trump has made his intolerance VERY clear from before he was even elected, and as I've already mentioned since taking office a LOT of information presented by government agencies under the Executive Branch has been removed. And it really doesn't take much see the obvious patterns. Basically anything Obama and his supporters have raised concern about, including the unfair treatment of LGBT people and climate change. Again, look at the list.

This censorship is so obviously aligned with Trump's stated positions and actions across the cabinet, not to mention he *IS* the final word on Executive Branch policy. If this is "exactly what Trump does not want", all he has to do is say so and the policy is killed. Again, these are not laws, they are policies over which he has complete authority.

I would say "nice try" but it wasn't even that. I assume you slipped and would not normally say such an idiot thing.

pafret wrote:

There is an evil in this imposition of thought control but it is by no means certain that Trump is behind it.

Maybe not to the clueless.

pafret wrote:

The man is a blunt instrument; he is hardly likely to espouse speech suppression.

Oh, of course not... Telling the NFL to fire athletes who dare take a knee before the flag in symbolic protest could not possibly suggest suppression of speech. What was I thinking? LOL

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Dec 16, 2017 15:07:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
I'm not going to look it up, but I'm sure the Germans have a phrase or expression for people so obsessed with sex in all its perverse manifestations that they use it as a political weapon.

I don't suppose it would be politically correct to mention the long list of words, phrases, and expressions that liberal academics have banned in public schools and universities. Such as "crazy," "insane," "retarded," "gay," "tyranny," "gypped," "illegal alien," "fag," "ghetto", "raghead," "I want to die," "that test raped me", "skill set," "enhanced interrogation," "derp," "lame," "invalid," "Mr.," "Mrs.," and "Ms," "freshman," "girl," "MAN", "policeman," "fireman," "mailman," congressman," "mankind," "man-made, " and other compound words that include "man". This is the short list.

Then there are the bans on "Bible", "Jesus," "Christian," and praying in school except for ablutions and oblations to Allah. If you have a Qu'ran and a prayer rug, you are cool, if you have a Bible and a crucifix, you are a dangerous extremist.

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Dec 16, 2017 15:28:15   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
straightUp, This is as crazy as crazy gets. The only thing that is crazier is the fact that nobody in the CDC is protesting this idiocy.

Unfortunately, the CDC has little choice. There is no constitutional basis for them to protest because the censorship does not involve law. Trump has been failing miserably at law. I don't know if there has ever been a president that went through his first year without signing a single law. So, all of Trump's actions have been limited to the policies of the Executive Branch over which he has complete control. And I guess because it's his only recourse he has been abusing that authority to sabotage the agencies by threatening their funding and this is exactly what what he is doing to the CDC. So the CDC can either comply with his dictates or go without funding and shut down their services.

saltwind 78 wrote:

CNN interviewed several former journalists, pundits and former Trump people and what they all agreed on was that the Donald doesn't like to hear bad news. This is related to that fact.

I've heard that too... Apparently, in his daily briefing his advisers include issues related to Russia in their reports but they don't vocalize it in the meetings for fear of upsetting Trump. I guess we got to expect that if we're going to be electing spoiled brats to office.

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