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Oct 21, 2017 13:06:22   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You have projected this lie @ least 10 times now... you continue to prove yourself a deceptive liar... If the WTC towers was in fact a "explosive controlled demolition" why is the framework their @ all?... Why isn't it blown up into smaller sections?... in your pathetic argument you clearly show a section off frame leaning on WTC6 that could not fall because its leaning on WTC6 & had nowhere to fall... how deceptive do you want to get buddy?...


The outer wall structure is still standing because it was farther from the center of the explosions which were in the massive center core. It's still standing because all the floors above it were exploded hundreds of feet outward from the tower footprint. The center core was undercut from explosions and cutting charges in the basement area. Most of it fell straight down.
Photos of the outer wall still standing show some sections were not leaning on anything. Deceptions are your game, non-buddy. Deceptions are required of anonymous shills who defend the lies of mass murderers.





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Oct 21, 2017 13:09:37   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
A little over one year go you didn't know the difference between Quantum Mechanics & Newtonian Mechanics & now you're the expert?...It appears that those who don't comprehend choose explosive demolition... it's just easier...


Posting crude graphics which show nothing does not help your case.
Please explain in detail what you are trying to say so that readers might believe you actually have knowledge of any science.
Please explain in your own words instead of cut-and-paste.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:29:14   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
The outer wall structure is still standing because it was farther from the center of the explosions which were in the massive center core. It's still standing because all the floors above it were exploded hundreds of feet outward from the tower footprint. The center core was undercut from explosions and cutting charges in the basement area. Most of it fell straight down.
Photos of the outer wall still standing show some sections were not leaning on anything. Deceptions are your game, non-buddy. Deceptions are required of anonymous shills who defend the lies of mass murderers.
The outer wall structure is still standing because... (show quote)




You project nothing but smoke & mirrors... explain how those powerful cutter charge explosions blew threw the 240 sections of outer box tube from 60ft away inside the core on each of the 110 floors?... Your bottom photo is not even the even ground level steel, just steel that landed upright from above... here is some more photos after the smoke cleared... again you prove nothing but deception ... buddy...



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Oct 21, 2017 13:49:52   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Posting crude graphics which show nothing does not help your case.
Please explain in detail what you are trying to say so that readers might believe you actually have knowledge of any science.
Please explain in your own words instead of cut-and-paste.




Since my expertise is not in structural design of skyscrapers just ships I will provide one of the most respected structural engineers alive today offer his expert opinion on the WTC towers collapse... observe my crude drawing after reading & see if you "get it yet"...Jon D. Magnusson, chairman-CEO of Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire Inc., Seattle, structural engineer for the original World Trade Center, agrees: "From what I observed on TV, it appeared that the floor diaphragm, necessary to brace the exterior columns, had lost connection to the exterior wall."

When the stability was lost, the exterior columns buckled outward, allowing the floors above to drop down onto floors below, overloading and failing each one as it went down, he says.



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Oct 21, 2017 14:40:36   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Since my expertise is not in structural design of skyscrapers just ships I will provide one of the most respected structural engineers alive today offer his expert opinion on the WTC towers collapse... observe my crude drawing after reading & see if you "get it yet"...Jon D. Magnusson, chairman-CEO of Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire Inc., Seattle, structural engineer for the original World Trade Center, agrees: "From what I observed on TV, it appeared that the floor diaphragm, necessary to brace the exterior columns, had lost connection to the exterior wall."

When the stability was lost, the exterior columns buckled outward, allowing the floors above to drop down onto floors below, overloading and failing each one as it went down, he says.
Since my expertise is not in structural design of ... (show quote)



So you finally admit you don't have any expertise in structural design of skyscrapers.
That indicates everything you have posted is propaganda and misinformation which you have cherry-picked to support your cover-up agenda.
Magnussen doesn't have anywhere near the knowledge of the Twin Towers that John Skilling had. Skilling was the chief structural engineer for the twin towers.
Skilling said the towers were designed to survive an airliner collision and the fires which would follow.
Skilling admitted there would be a lot of people killed but the towers would remain standing.
Skilling also said that the towers could be brought down by experts in controlled demolition.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930227&slug=1687698

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Oct 21, 2017 14:45:45   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You project nothing but smoke & mirrors... explain how those powerful cutter charge explosions blew threw the 240 sections of outer box tube from 60ft away inside the core on each of the 110 floors?... Your bottom photo is not even the even ground level steel, just steel that landed upright from above... here is some more photos after the smoke cleared... again you prove nothing but deception ... buddy...


Why don't you explain how gravity flung exploded sections of the outer walls hundreds of feet laterally and impaled then in surrounding buildings?
Please notice the windows blown out by the blast waves.



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Oct 21, 2017 14:49:32   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You project nothing but smoke & mirrors... explain how those powerful cutter charge explosions blew threw the 240 sections of outer box tube from 60ft away inside the core on each of the 110 floors?... Your bottom photo is not even the even ground level steel, just steel that landed upright from above... here is some more photos after the smoke cleared... again you prove nothing but deception ... buddy...


The top photo is ground level. The Arabic arches of the lower floors are visible.
There are other images which show you to be wrong as well.





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Oct 21, 2017 15:10:18   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why don't you explain how gravity flung exploded sections of the outer walls hundreds of feet laterally and impaled then in surrounding buildings?
Please notice the windows blown out by the blast waves.




Although skyscrapers don't float or move many of the principals & math are the same regarding structural integrity ... since when did explosive blast waves become selective on breaking windows?... blast waves are an overpressure in the atmosphere not kids throwing rocks or debris hitting windows...see if this helps you out... how far from the centerline would the banana peel be if it was a 1400ft tall banana 200ft wide?... now try and consider steel isn't as flexible as banana peels and will break off in sections from a great height with an outward motion... I tried to explain the term "trajectory" way back if you have forgotten...





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Oct 21, 2017 15:24:06   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
The top photo is ground level. The Arabic arches of the lower floors are visible.
There are other images which show you to be wrong as well.




Your photos & argument are meaningless to anything involving the collapse except the few leaning sections of structural framework that proves absolutely nothing of your argument... it shows fragments of structure supported by debris or other structures that had nowhere to fall... do you actually have a point ?...or are you just clinging onto anything you post as possibly being somewhat correct...

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Oct 21, 2017 15:45:54   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Although skyscrapers don't float or move many of the principals & math are the same regarding structural integrity ... since when did explosive blast waves become selective on breaking windows?... blast waves are an overpressure in the atmosphere not kids throwing rocks or debris hitting windows...see if this helps you out... how far from the centerline would the banana peel be if it was a 1400ft tall banana 200ft wide?... now try and consider steel isn't as flexible as banana peels and will break off in sections from a great height with an outward motion... I tried to explain the term "trajectory" way back if you have forgotten...
Although skyscrapers don't float or move many of t... (show quote)


You forget to mention the force which peeled the banana. The force of gravity is straight down. The force it requires to peal a banana is outward from the center of the banana.
The alleged falling floors were falling straight down . . . no peeling power there.





Explosive peeling power . . .
Explosive peeling power . . ....

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Oct 21, 2017 15:48:08   #
whole2th
 
Emarine does not account for large explosions in the lobby of the Twin Tower.

His pile driver idea does not explain waves of explosions 20-40 floors below the cascading arches of debris.

This repeating clip shows explosions--the North Tower being explosively demolished.

Visual proof of cutter charge severing corner column: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ-k-iOg0M

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Oct 21, 2017 15:54:06   #
whole2th
 
Meet David Chandler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDWknogw5Gw

Chandler uses his own name. He references observed conditions to principles of physics. He provides detail (not crude drawings).

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Oct 21, 2017 16:00:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Go to the 6:30 mark on this video's time slider. It shows News anchor Aaron Brown describing what you claim is part of the center core as being part of the side of the tower.
Brown was there to see it as it happened. https://youtu.be/VwjRaadx-QU
The outer wall structure survived better than the massive center core where all the most powerful explosives were detonated.
Aaron Brown, a CNN news anchor, watching a video shot from considerable distance, is supposed to be an expert on what he is looking at? Hell, I thought the media hacks were all Zionists who were in on it.


All of the large sections of perimeter wall we see standing somewhat erect were at the base of the towers, they did not fall from any height. If you understood the physics of a progressive gravitational collapse, you would know why those sections remain.


Whoever worked up the graphic below, is obviously not as knowledgeable about the design and construction of the twin towers as you want us to believe. This graphic shows a box framed steel core in which all the columns are of the same dimensions. In reality, the core was much different than what is shown here.

1) The 16 columns on the outer long dimension of the core were the heaviest, the remaining 31 along the ends of the core and within it were half the size.

2) The spandrel plates are too large and spaced too far apart. The spandrel plates and the core floor support beams are the same size.

3) A cursory look at the tower blueprints will show that whoever did this graphic was dishonest in attempting to depict the core as a "massive" box framed structure.

But, in your mind, everything about the twin towers and their destruction was "massive". Massive core, massive explosive debris clouds, massive explosions, massive conspiracy, yada yada.



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Oct 21, 2017 16:02:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
whole2th wrote:
Meet David Chandler: https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDWknogw5Gw
Yeah, I've met him. He's an idiot.

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Oct 21, 2017 16:05:07   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Your photos & argument are meaningless to anything involving the collapse except the few leaning sections of structural framework that proves absolutely nothing of your argument... it shows fragments of structure supported by debris or other structures that had nowhere to fall... do you actually have a point ?...or are you just clinging onto anything you post as possibly being somewhat correct...


The argument advanced by the shill side of this discussion is that the center core fell last. The sections of the outer walls still standing above any remnants of the center core defeats that false premise.



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