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Sep 21, 2017 23:09:08   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Morgan wrote:
Obamacare doesn't have to do with her coverage or payments, it was a market place for what each state offered, its up to the person what plan they bought, if she had lousy coverage she didn't choose a good plan. Meaning blaming the ACA is bull and a waste of time.


She chose the best available, you don't know what you are writing about.

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Sep 21, 2017 23:21:12   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
son of witless wrote:
But but but but the Liberals say that if you have ObamaCare you will get that heart operation. Now you tell me it ain't true. I am so sad. You have devastated me. I thought it was only those dastardly Republicans who denied people heart operations. I don't know what to do. Tell me what to do.

So if the Donald trashes the Unaffordable Care Act people will die, but if he doesn't trash the Un affordable Care Act people will die ? Good thing I am not a brain dead ObamaCare believer. Go Donald go.
But but but but the Liberals say that if you have ... (show quote)


Federally run health insurance in the USA is J P stupid. Wyoming, CA, TX, NYS, FLA etc etc all have very different needs. One size does NOT fit all. We need interstate trans portability, a pre existing conditions availability reinsured by government, and the entire balance of coverage offered by private insurers. The policy itself one in which men do not get pregnancy benefits, women d not get prostate coverage, etc etc . Basic deductible choices made by the insured not the government. Federal government has no right to run a health insurance plan,, read that 10th amendment again. If the people chose, it can be a STATE matter only..

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Sep 21, 2017 23:47:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
peter11937 wrote:
She chose the best available, you don't know what you are writing about.


Exactly right. In Florida I chose the only plan available to me in my income range. $14,000 deductible. Believe me. If you can't pay the out of pocket you might as well not have insurance.

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Sep 22, 2017 01:31:06   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
plainlogic wrote:
The big question that always rises Nest, is, who brought this disaster to fruition? Yeah, that'd right YOUR party, Democrat, liberal, progressives who never read one iota of the disastrous bill, Obama signed on without reading it too.

Would you buy a house, a car without reading the contract? Ooops, never mind, the guy would say, Nest? just sign it, don't worry what's in it, it's just the same ole stuff, you know blah, blah, blah. Then he tells you Nest, you don't have to know what's in it until you sign it, then you'll know.

Remember the architect who drew it up? what he thought about you? His name? Johnathan Gruber... And you're upset that the GOP wants to correct the problem causes people to lose their coverage? It's not Trump, it's the Republicans in name only, also known as Democrats in hiding.

The Democrats have always done what you see here, they screw things up, throw money at it, never try to fix what they break. Then, they point fingers at anyone who tries to fix it. And you're part of the problem nest, you bobble your head up and down parroting everything you hear.. It's no wonder you get disparaged time and again. You can't help yourself in the expletives...
The big question that always rises Nest, is, who b... (show quote)

Uh.....I don't think parroting is the reason he bobs his head up and down. (Unless that's what they're calling it now.)

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Sep 22, 2017 01:57:25   #
Nickolai
 
son of witless wrote:
But but but but the Liberals say that if you have ObamaCare you will get that heart operation. Now you tell me it ain't true. I am so sad. You have devastated me. I thought it was only those dastardly Republicans who denied people heart operations. I don't know what to do. Tell me what to do.

So if the Donald trashes the Unaffordable Care Act people will die, but if he doesn't trash the Un affordable Care Act people will die ? Good thing I am not a brain dead ObamaCare believer. Go Donald go.
But but but but the Liberals say that if you have ... (show quote)





Had it been left up to the Republicans there would never been at health car reform. Every advancement in our society that was passed by democrats, Republicans jump on it and try to change it into something they can lay claim to. They never have an idea that is worth the powder it would take to blow their asses to hell

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Sep 22, 2017 01:59:49   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
Exactly right. In Florida I chose the only plan available to me in my income range. $14,000 deductible. Believe me. If you can't pay the out of pocket you might as well not have insurance.






That's why we needed a public option but the ins companies put up $80 billion to help close the donut hole over 10 years if democrats would forget about the public option

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Sep 22, 2017 07:11:28   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Get informed...and stop being an ignorant shill for the private, for profit health INSURANCE leeches.

Answers to
Your Questions and Concerns
... about
the best universal health care:
pure single-payer health care,
Improved Medicare for All

http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/Answers

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Sep 22, 2017 07:53:33   #
son of witless
 
Nickolai wrote:
Had it been left up to the Republicans there would never been at health car reform. Every advancement in our society that was passed by democrats, Republicans jump on it and try to change it into something they can lay claim to. They never have an idea that is worth the powder it would take to blow their asses to hell


Every advancement as you put it, is not good. Why is health care so expensive ? Part of that is insurance. Obamacare was a lie. You do not seem to get that because you do not care. If Obamacare had done what Obama the liar had said it would do, the exchanges would not be going under, people would not have their premiums going up and the cost to the taxpayer would not be going up.

Again you do not care. You do not care about the truth. Gruber said he counted on the stupidity of the American voter. He is still counting on people like you.

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Sep 22, 2017 08:37:23   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Finally the GOP has a healthcare package that fits there ideology of hate. After all they will be orgasmatic when Trump Nukes North Korea, Iran, and kills 50 million, men, Women and children. He will be right up there with Hitler the right wing new hero because they support the Neo Nazies, White supremacist. Trump could possibly out due Hitler. That would make the Trump supporters ecstatic you people will be dancing in the streets. We can cancel the 4th of July and have a new holiday Trump/Hitler day.

But the real excitement for the Trump supporters. Take healthcare away from 31 million people. Now I understand why the last repeal failed it did not kill enough Kids in that one it only took away healthcare for 25 million people. But let's not forget our elderly and handicapped living in nursing homes they kept the part where they cut $800 billion from Medicaid so they got you also elderly. Isn't that wonderful they are going to kill you also.

(IT WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TRUMP SUPPORTERS IMAGINE THEY GET TO WATCH 6 MILLION KIDS DIE)

Can you imagine the right wing method of holding public hearings on healthcare. Here is what there public hearing consist of it's actually comical but like I said 1 out of every 3 Trump supporters are just as stupid as the other two. Okay here is the public hearing.

Hearing will take place for 30 minutes at the Homeland Security meeting (now that's strange why a Homeland Security committee meeting) only two people are allowed to testify. Since Trump supporters never read legislation and I always read legislation there's no sense in me posting what's in it because I will be called a liar. No CBO report, no GAO report, no idea of the cost impact to American people, the Federal government, and most important the massive cost pushed onto the states which Trump supporters have no idea because they refuse to read legislation they just listen to the freak in the White House. (Trump quote Graham/Cassidy will be great) no details because he has no idea what's in it. There are 7 red state governors that are against this bill now. Not to mention only 12% of this country is for the repeal of the ACA and I think 50% of those idiots are on OPP.

These are the only two allowed to testify.
Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy and guess what the name of the bill is yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you guessed it Graham/Cassidy bill. They know exactly how to play to there base let's just go out and kill some poor kids. After all poor kids grow up to vote democratic, because democrats believe in breaking a string of poverty by feeding, educating, and medical care. Republicans believe in wealthy tax cuts, subsidies to the corporate Elite and eliminate minimum wage. What a great agenda for eliminating voter fraud. Just kill these kids before they can vote.

The following Association have come out against this Healthcare package and they have indicated that it will deny medical care to Millions. We have no way of checking this because the right wing refuses a CBO evaluation. It would only take a few days so why not do it.

I have personally donated to most of these foundations. I am sure a Trump supporter never gave a dime to anyone of them because these foundations save lives. That's not a priority to Trump supporters but a All white society and keeping there's guns are. They love guns because it's just another way of killing.

American Cancer Society, American Diabetes Asso., American Heart Asso. American Lung Asso. Arthritis foundation, Cystic Fibrosis foundation, ALS foundation, March of Dimes, Children's Hospital. I will now ask you a question do we believe the above associations and foundations or believe the three right wing morons below. I posted pictures of these people because they are you're leaders to create a new and wonderful killing field for Trump supporters.

We live in the most wealthy country in the world, the right wing talks about billions being spent on a foolish wall, eliminating inheritance taxes, cutting corporate tax rates to 15%, increase of oil and farm subsidies, eliminate the alternative Minimum tax, nuclear war with North Korea, escalate the Iraq/Afghanistan war trillions of dollars in lost funds to the Federal but these Trump supporters will deny a kid medical attention for a congenital heart disease. (HOW DOES THIS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN)

Before you idiots start you're insults read the GD bill
Finally the GOP has a healthcare package that fits... (show quote)


Hey, you promised to jump off a building at least 60 stories high, what happened, you lied about your promise, or just a frigging coward about keeping your word? Well, you lied...I can tell as even what you just posted right here is all a lie and fabricated by you and the same level of puke minded scum.

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Sep 22, 2017 08:39:28   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
peter11937 wrote:
She chose the best available, you don't know what you are writing about.


Pete,

This sound bogus..

I do not believe this situation exists..

No one would be in the position of not getting a needed operation.. Heart surgery? She would get it done in a jiffy...

I can believe some people can select the insurance they should have. People do all sorts of dumb things..

but if a Dr. has told her she need the procedure, She would even get a referral to a surgeon in the same system..

It would go like clock work.. We can find bad things about anything we wish.. But the health care system works very well with each network..

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Sep 22, 2017 08:54:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
peter11937 wrote:
Federally run health insurance in the USA is J P stupid. Wyoming, CA, TX, NYS, FLA etc etc all have very different needs. One size does NOT fit all. We need interstate trans portability, a pre existing conditions availability reinsured by government, and the entire balance of coverage offered by private insurers. The policy itself one in which men do not get pregnancy benefits, women d not get prostate coverage, etc etc . Basic deductible choices made by the insured not the government. Federal government has no right to run a health insurance plan,, read that 10th amendment again. If the people chose, it can be a STATE matter only..
Federally run health insurance in the USA is J P ... (show quote)


We must have some misunderstanding about this program.

The ACA does not offer insurance. It is a market place for insurance companies to sell their product..

As to coverage. It is not policies sold to individuals.. Rather, like and HMO, service is provided, listed in the information book. which is for all who enroll. Then, looking at these offers the buyer makes a decision to buy into the group or hunt for a different group..

But nearly all seem to be pretty much the same, because the ACA requires a level of coverage which is inclusive and not simply junk to have people buy what is only paper...

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Sep 22, 2017 09:42:26   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Pete,

This sound bogus..

I do not believe this situation exists..

No one would be in the position of not getting a needed operation.. Heart surgery? She would get it done in a jiffy...

I can believe some people can select the insurance they should have. People do all sorts of dumb things..

but if a Dr. has told her she need the procedure, She would even get a referral to a surgeon in the same system..

It would go like clock work.. We can find bad things about anything we wish.. But the health care system works very well with each network..
Pete, br br This sound bogus.. br br I do not b... (show quote)


It actually does exist.

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Sep 22, 2017 09:48:36   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Love how you self-proposed experts know more about the ACA exchanges and how the insurance works than those of us who have to purchase it. typical liberal. Don't have to pay for your own, so you tell the rest of us how good we have it. You have no idea what you are talking about per usual. You just recite talking points. You are exactly who Grueber was talking about.
permafrost wrote:
We must have some misunderstanding about this program.

The ACA does not offer insurance. It is a market place for insurance companies to sell their product..

As to coverage. It is not policies sold to individuals.. Rather, like and HMO, service is provided, listed in the information book. which is for all who enroll. Then, looking at these offers the buyer makes a decision to buy into the group or hunt for a different group..

But nearly all seem to be pretty much the same, because the ACA requires a level of coverage which is inclusive and not simply junk to have people buy what is only paper...
We must have some misunderstanding about this prog... (show quote)

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Sep 22, 2017 09:56:51   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You believe this shill Arch? He doesn't have Obamacare but everything works just fine. He's full of shit. I work in an office that had four people that sold Medicaire Supplements and signed up people for Medicaire. There is only one now because of the rediculous cuts to them so the supposed navigators (idiots all) could make more. All insurance in Florida goes through the exchanges. We are down to two providers. Not much choice.
archie bunker wrote:
It actually does exist.

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Sep 22, 2017 10:25:17   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
You believe this shill Arch? He doesn't have Obamacare but everything works just fine. He's full of shit. I work in an office that had four people that sold Medicaire Supplements and signed up people for Medicaire. There is only one now because of the rediculous cuts to them so the supposed navigators (idiots all) could make more. All insurance in Florida goes through the exchanges. We are down to two providers. Not much choice.


Remember when my daughter had cancer Jim? The battle with the insurance, and the out of pocket expenses were horrible. Had she gone along, and done what they wanted her to, she would have lost the entire roof of her mouth, and the cancer could have spread all over her body. Thank God she's a fighter, and had a lot of good people helping her!

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