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Fact: According to the bible god created Evil!
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Sep 8, 2017 01:12:07   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
And when parents have a child like raylon, they suffer.
jack sequim wa wrote:
Arriving at the border of the Promised Land, the Israelites sent out 12 spies to reconnoiter the areas. When 10 of the 12 spies brought back an “evil”(Numbers 13:32) analysis of Canaan’s conditions and the people accepted their faithless assessment. God condemned the population to 40 years of desert meandering until all those 20 years and older had died (Numbers 14:29). God would only permit the next generation to enter the land (Numbers 14:30-31).

But what, in the meantime, were these children, the younger generation, to do? Must they actually suffer for their parents’ sin and wander in the desert for 40 years as well? Notice God’s answer: “And your sons shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years, and bear the brunt of your infidelity…” (Numbers 14:33). Other translations render the last phrase “suffer for your unfaithfulness” (NASB, NIV; cf. ESV, RSV). The children would suffer for the unfaithfulness of their parents. Many people simply do not accept this biblical principle. They cannot see how the innocent can suffer for the sins of others. This misconception easily leads to further error: seeking to offset the unavoidable consequences of man’s disobedience to God (cf. Numbers 14:40-45).

When parents forsake the assembly (Hebrews 10:25), their sin takes its toll on their children in the form of lost teaching, poor parental example, absence of Christian association, etc. The children suffer for their parents’ sin.

When parents abuse their bodies by taking drugs, drinking alcohol, smoking, contracting venereal disease, etc., their children experience physical problems at birth and later hardships in the form of inadequate nutrition, insufficient finances, neglect, etc. The children suffer for their parents’ sin.

When parents hypocritically instruct their children to conduct themselves in certain ways, but then fail to follow their own advice and excuse their behavior by telling their children to “do as I say, not as I do,” the children grow up rejecting the parents’ good instruction. The children suffer for their parents’ sin.

When parents divorce and remarry in violation of God’s law, forming an adulterous union that, in God’s sight, cannot continue, the children experience rejection, loneliness, bewilderment. If the parents obey God and terminate the unlawful marriage, the children will live in a home environment that’s not all it could have been. The children will suffer for their parents’ sin. But such is no justification for encouraging the parents to continue committing adultery in order to minimize the children’s suffering.

Must the children suffer? Sadly, tragically, yes—when parents sin. But rather than change God’s law, doubt God’s mercy, or dodge the consequences of sin, put the blame where it belongs: man’s defiance of God. Then, obey God—no matter what.
Arriving at the border of the Promised Land, the I... (show quote)

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Sep 8, 2017 01:17:55   #
Red Onion Rip Loc: Oklahoma
 
Pennylynn wrote:
The translation is rough, but adequate. Oseh shalom u'voreh ra .... G*d did indeed create everything.... Do not just go to Isiah for understanding, go to Genesis.... G*d made it clear that the Tree of Knowledge was commanded to grow by the word, darkness and light, earth and the heavens, water from land..... He also made it clear that we can choose the "trouble" (the word that Romans translated poorly from Hebrew to Evil) or we can chose to follow His instructions. Let me ask, would you know sour if you had never tasted sweet?
The translation is rough, but adequate. Oseh shal... (show quote)


Shalom Pennylynn, are you Jewish? Sorry, rhetorical question. It seems to me the problem with this question and other bible questions that arise, meanings are due to what the translators want the words to mean. For instance, the word moshiach appears 39 times in the Jewish scriptures, and it is translated correctly as anointed one in 37 of those places in the KJV. But in only one place is it translated twice as messiah, and that is in Daniel 9. That's because in, Daniel 9, the translator needed it to mean messiah rather than anointed one. And in one of those places it is even preceded by the definite article to make it 'the messiah'. I hope that all makes sense. I tend to ramble sometimes.

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Sep 8, 2017 01:27:30   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
After the age of accountability, parents are relieved of the responsibility for the sins of their offspring, but they are still responsible for the sin they committed... not teaching him right from wrong. So, no doubt the parents of raylon and other atheist, do suffer and will suffer even more when they go to the final judgment.
JFlorio wrote:
And when parents have a child like raylon, they suffer.

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Sep 8, 2017 01:27:44   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Do you not see that it is not G*d who rapes or allows children to starve, it is people. G*d has given us freedom to chose to not harm one another, the world that is capable of feeding everyone.... if we chose to do so. Do not be foolish and look to G*d as an escape from your own sins. G*d is not responsible for what we create from His goodness. If you have children, put this in perspective... can you truly control what they do and think? Of course not, they are individuals with free will. They will do things that will disappoint you, but their mistakes belong to them. Yes, you should teach them to be correct, as G*d taught us by giving His rules/Laws, but you can not force them to always do the right thing. So is it that G*d can not force us to be righteous. G*d can not sin, only humans can sin....
Do you not see that it is not G*d who rapes or all... (show quote)


I am wondering penny do you have a daughter or granddaughter????????????????

Deuteronomy 22:28

If a man who is caught raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty cents of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and will never be allowed to divorce her!

Now penny exactly what part of this bible verse do you agree with! And the one below!



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Sep 8, 2017 01:29:50   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Enough said!


Yo Goober.

You're getting a good bible lesson.

And yes, God created evil.

I believe that and I worship Him without question.

God also created war, which you will soon get to participate in.

I hope you're ready Goober.

Because it will be a war between Good and Evil.

The Good, are those who believe in and worship God.

The Evil, are people like you, who refuse to acknowledge Him.

It's gonna be one humdinger of a war.

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Sep 8, 2017 01:38:55   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Yo Goober.

You're getting a good bible lesson.

And yes, God created evil.

I believe that and I worship Him without question.

God also created war, which you will soon get to participate in.

I hope you're ready Goober.

Because it will be a war between Good and Evil.

The Good, are those who believe in and worship God.

The Evil, are people like you, who refuse to acknowledge Him.

It's gonna be one humdinger of a war.

Without question wolf belongs to the devil!
Without question wolf belongs to the devil!...

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Sep 8, 2017 01:39:37   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
I am wondering penny do you have a daughter or granddaughter????????????????

Deuteronomy 22:28

If a man who is caught raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty cents of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and will never be allowed to divorce her!

Now penny exactly what part of this bible verse do you agree with! And the one below!




Rylan, I believe your cutting and pasting from an atheist site. The author whom has zero understanding and cherry picking what wuld seem logical , as an evil god. But that logic only applies to the foolish that reject God and never seek to understand the word of God.

I also belive based on past experience with you, that you have no sincere desire to understand what these verses mean, rather enjoy attempting to mock believers.
What your not understanding is, we do understand and are unshakeable in our faith.
Your continued attack, when given responses that explain the truth in scriptures only makes you more accountable when you face God at judgement and it's just you and God, by yourself explaining why you continued to reject and hate him even when your questions had been explained to you by his children.

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Sep 8, 2017 01:44:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Fact; according to the bible god created evil!
So what? You don't know enough about God or religion to even understand what it is you are attacking, or why. 84% of the people on Earth believe in a Higher Authority, one third of them are Christians, yet you have consistently displayed your ignorance in singling out Christians for your attacks on the faithful. You are not even a worthy atheist, Wolfe. Those slivers under your fingernails are from the bottom of the barrel.

Fair warning, don't ever get caught by militant Muslims, they don't simply ask Allah to bless you and move on.

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Sep 8, 2017 01:46:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Shalom Aleikhem (Peace upon you)! Yes I am Jewish and you are absolutely correct in your observations! Indeed, you are a blessing, most people do not understand this simple truth. Even in the Christian (new Testament) much has been "arranged" to equal or exceed expectations. In defense, all most have or read is what the budding Catholic Church determined was acceptable. Not many folks today can read the dead languages... Latin is only required for doctors (some Universities no longer require Latin), Aramaic and Hebrew are only required by Orthodox Jews.... and modern Greek is very different than what was spoken in the time of Jesus.

And NO you are not rambling, your observations are spot on!

madsciontist wrote:
Shalom Pennylynn, are you Jewish? Sorry, rhetorical question. It seems to me the problem with this question and other bible questions that arise, meanings are due to what the translators want the words to mean. For instance, the word moshiach appears 39 times in the Jewish scriptures, and it is translated correctly as anointed one in 37 of those places in the KJV. But in only one place is it translated twice as messiah, and that is in Daniel 9. That's because in, Daniel 9, the translator needed it to mean messiah rather than anointed one. And in one of those places it is even preceded by the definite article to make it 'the messiah'. I hope that all makes sense. I tend to ramble sometimes.
Shalom Pennylynn, are you Jewish? Sorry, rhetorica... (show quote)

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Sep 8, 2017 01:54:17   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Well I know that according to the bible god created evil, before there was such a thing!


Blade_Runner wrote:
So what? You don't know enough about God or religion to even understand what it is you are attacking, or why. 84% of the people on Earth believe in a Higher Authority, one third of them are Christians, yet you have consistently displayed your ignorance in singling out Christians for your attacks on the faithful. You are not even a worthy atheist, Wolfe. Those slivers under your fingernails are from the bottom of the barrel.

Fair warning, don't ever get caught by militant Muslims, they don't simply ask Allah to bless you and move on.
So what? You don't know enough about God or religi... (show quote)


And 84% of the people are fools!



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Sep 8, 2017 01:59:17   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
God created wolves also...Goober.

And He made me their counselor.

I've counseled them all to recognize godless Goobers.

You had better stay in your mammy's basement Goober.

My disciples are watching for demons, faggots and Goobers.

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Sep 8, 2017 02:02:57   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
madsciontist wrote:
Shalom Pennylynn, are you Jewish? Sorry, rhetorical question. It seems to me the problem with this question and other bible questions that arise, meanings are due to what the translators want the words to mean. For instance, the word moshiach appears 39 times in the Jewish scriptures, and it is translated correctly as anointed one in 37 of those places in the KJV. But in only one place is it translated twice as messiah, and that is in Daniel 9. That's because in, Daniel 9, the translator needed it to mean messiah rather than anointed one. And in one of those places it is even preceded by the definite article to make it 'the messiah'. I hope that all makes sense. I tend to ramble sometimes.
Shalom Pennylynn, are you Jewish? Sorry, rhetorica... (show quote)



God Bless Israel,

God Bless the Jewish ( God's Chosen )

God Bless America

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Sep 8, 2017 02:14:33   #
Red Onion Rip Loc: Oklahoma
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Shalom Aleikhem (Peace upon you)! Yes I am Jewish and you are absolutely correct in your observations! Indeed, you are a blessing, most people do not understand this simple truth. Even in the Christian (new Testament) much has been "arranged" to equal or exceed expectations. In defense, all most have or read is what the budding Catholic Church determined was acceptable. Not many folks today can read the dead languages... Latin is only required for doctors (some Universities no longer require Latin), Aramaic and Hebrew are only required by Orthodox Jews.... and modern Greek is very different than what was spoken in the time of Jesus.

And NO you are not rambling, your observations are spot on!
Shalom Aleikhem (Peace upon you)! Yes I am Jewish... (show quote)


I'm not Jewish, although someday I would like to be. But at my age, 72, that doesn't seem very likely. The closest synagogue or temple is about 45 miles one way and there are no other Jews where I live, so I have to rely on what I can learn on my own. My wife is Baptist which doesn't help things either. I do attend church with her occasionally and wear my kippa and Star of David and no o need in the church seems to mind. Well, it's past my bedtime (1:10 am) so enough for tonight.

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Sep 8, 2017 02:17:14   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
God blessed evil!


jack sequim wa wrote:
God Bless Israel,

God Bless the Jewish ( God's Chosen )

God Bless America



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Sep 8, 2017 02:18:40   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
And god blessed you!


Wolf counselor wrote:
God created wolves also...Goober.

And He made me their counselor.

I've counseled them all to recognize godless Goobers.

You had better stay in your mammy's basement Goober.

My disciples are watching for demons, faggots and Goobers.



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