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Jul 27, 2017 14:29:23   #
Mr Bombastic
 
As I share in the video, this isn’t the first time the Catholic people have done this. But the Vatican always turns a blind eye to it

http://youtu.be/YIGFK1iaM1E

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Jul 27, 2017 14:43:28   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
As I share in the video, this isn’t the first time the Catholic people have done this. But the Vatican always turns a blind eye to it

http://youtu.be/YIGFK1iaM1E

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Any religion that directs you to: hate, rape, behead, etc is a terrible religion.
I do believe the Judaeo Christian ideas and work ethic are what made this the greatest country in history.
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FORBIDDEN HISTORY OF THE SUMERIANS
It makes sense to me

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Jul 27, 2017 15:18:32   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
As I share in the video, this isn’t the first time the Catholic people have done this. But the Vatican always turns a blind eye to it

http://youtu.be/YIGFK1iaM1E


I like Monty Pythons version of the Inquisition better.

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Jul 27, 2017 15:25:56   #
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I was raised a Catholic and if I was still a Catholic I would speak out loudly against this. No religion should ever force people to join their religion or even try to force preaching, etc. to try to get people to convert. Their only attempts to get people to convert should be when someone comes to them and wants to convert or possibly learn more. Shameful. Sounds like they have been reading to much about ISIS making people covert to their brand of Islam or face rape and death.

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Jul 27, 2017 16:08:49   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
As I share in the video, this isn’t the first time the Catholic people have done this. But the Vatican always turns a blind eye to it

http://youtu.be/YIGFK1iaM1E


Another anti-Catholic idiot. No substatiation, proof, idependent verification -- he uses his own slandereous rag of a newsletter to prove his bogus claims. Just what do you morons think a Catholic is if not Christian? And when you say Christian which of the four hundred or so weird, heretical groups are you refering to? Each and every one of you "Christians" has the absolute truth and no two of you agree. As far as I am concerned your "Christianity" has as much validity as mohammedaism -- all man created.

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Jul 27, 2017 16:39:16   #
Mr Bombastic
 
pafret wrote:
Each and every one of you "Christians" has the absolute truth and no two of you agree.


Not true. Of all the Christian denominations, just about every one of them agrees with the basic doctrine. That Jesus is the Son of God and that He died and rose again to save us from our sin. The differences are minor and are not related to how to be saved or live as God would want us to live. And before you cast any stones, perhaps you could explain why the Catholic Church once made it a crime, punishable by death, for someone to own a Bible. Then there was the Inquisition. There is also all of the many 'Church Doctrines' that are contrary to Scripture. Catholicism is a Pagan religion. I've seen them bowing to graven images. That is something that God forbids and no Christian would ever do.

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Jul 27, 2017 17:33:04   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
As I share in the video, this isn’t the first time the Catholic people have done this. But the Vatican always turns a blind eye to it

http://youtu.be/YIGFK1iaM1E




Being Roman Catholic myself, i must call bullshit on any proof delivered through a stupid youtube video.......Just putting that out there....youtube..hahahahahahaha

I don't think so Tim

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Jul 27, 2017 17:39:12   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Being Roman Catholic myself, i must call bullshit on any proof delivered through a stupid youtube video.......Just putting that out there....youtube..hahahahahahaha

I don't think so Tim


Deny it all you like. It happened. Just Google it. There are many sites carrying this story, and I haven't seen anything saying it's NOT true. Here's another link with more information.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/7.evangelical.christians.jailed.for.refusing.to.convert.not.to.islam.but.to.catholicism.in.mexico/74040.htm

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Jul 27, 2017 18:34:57   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Deny it all you like. It happened. Just Google it. There are many sites carrying this story, and I haven't seen anything saying it's NOT true. Here's another link with more information.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/7.evangelical.christians.jailed.for.refusing.to.convert.not.to.islam.but.to.catholicism.in.mexico/74040.htm




Read it, still not convinced due to the verbiage used in sidestepping an actual claim of proof.... besides, join the team or get out when it's Mexico i have no problem with.....it's Mexico!! Who cares

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Jul 27, 2017 18:49:39   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Read it, still not convinced due to the verbiage used in sidestepping an actual claim of proof.... besides, join the team or get out when it's Mexico i have no problem with.....it's Mexico!! Who cares


It doesn't affect you, so you don't care? That's very Christian of you. You should care. The fact that you don't speaks volumes. Doesn't it?

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Jul 27, 2017 23:55:30   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Not true. Of all the Christian denominations, just about every one of them agrees with the basic doctrine. That Jesus is the Son of God and that He died and rose again to save us from our sin. The differences are minor and are not related to how to be saved or live as God would want us to live. And before you cast any stones, perhaps you could explain why the Catholic Church once made it a crime, punishable by death, for someone to own a Bible. Then there was the Inquisition. There is also all of the many 'Church Doctrines' that are contrary to Scripture. Catholicism is a Pagan religion. I've seen them bowing to graven images. That is something that God forbids and no Christian would ever do.
Not true. Of all the Christian denominations, just... (show quote)


If you recall Christ was emphatic that he came to fulfill the old testament and gave the message of the new testament to replace it. While all of the bible is important, it must be remembered that the injunctions of the old testament are not necessarily replicated in the new. Further, your interpretation of what is occuring in Catholic worship is at odds with the reality --- No Catholic Worships a Graven Image. Anyone who does that is an idolater, not a Catholic. Whatever you saw was witnessed without comprehension and your interpretations of a reigion, of which you are ignorant, are worthless.

As far as what was once a crime, consider that early man made a practice of killing any stranger that entered their area. The Mayans engaged in bloody wars solely for the purpose of taking captives to be sacrificed to their gods and they ritually slew thousands of these at a time. After Martin Luther, the schismatic, defied the Pope and established his own religion, horny Henry VIII proceded with the English Reformation, in order to divorce and remarry, multiple times. From the beginning, the Catholic Church faced general persecution, regimentation and oppression in formerly Catholic countries. All of this is illustrative of what man does, in his ignorance and propensity to do evil.

You will note, it is man who does the evil not the church or the religion. You could, with equal irrelevance, ask me to justify the slaughters of Tammerlane or Enver Pasha who was responsible for the Armenian genocide in which he killed 1.5 million Christians. Enver was doing this for the sake of his god which if you believe moslems is the God of Abraham. These are acts of man, not God Mandated and not mandated by Catholicism. No one in those times was playing with a full deck.

To blame all the evil acts in history on Catholicism is to deny the sinful, evil nature of man, who performs these evil acts, while cloaking himself in Religion. It was done by Catholics and Protestants of all sects, none have clean hands.

Biblical exigesis is a difficult thing, anyone not capable of reading Aramaic, Hebrew, Classical Greek and Latin and who is not an expert historian on society of two thousand years ago is at a complete disadvantage as to what is actually written and how it was to be understood. The Jews have Talmudic Scholars and the Torah; they also had brilliant interpreters of the law who produced the Mishnas and the Gemara elucidations. The nearest equivalent in Christianity is Catholicism which is based on Biblical-Scriptural precepts and oral tradition for guidance in interpretation. The Apostles' Creed is based on Christian theological understanding of the Canonical gospels, the letters of the New Testament and to a lesser extent the Old Testament. It covers the basics but not all of Catholicism.

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Jul 28, 2017 04:16:19   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
It doesn't affect you, so you don't care? That's very Christian of you. You should care. The fact that you don't speaks volumes. Doesn't it?




I don't care, because i don't believe it....the fact that you do speaks volumes, doesn't it?
I am not the one here constantly pushing God down other peoples necks, you are......there are documented pages upon pages of you not practicing what you preach, I'm not here to preach, i don't preach......so who is really stepping out of bounds here?

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Jul 28, 2017 09:00:48   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Not true. Of all the Christian denominations, just about every one of them agrees with the basic doctrine. That Jesus is the Son of God and that He died and rose again to save us from our sin. The differences are minor and are not related to how to be saved or live as God would want us to live. And before you cast any stones, perhaps you could explain why the Catholic Church once made it a crime, punishable by death, for someone to own a Bible. Then there was the Inquisition. There is also all of the many 'Church Doctrines' that are contrary to Scripture. Catholicism is a Pagan religion. I've seen them bowing to graven images. That is something that God forbids and no Christian would ever do.
Not true. Of all the Christian denominations, just... (show quote)


Right on the money Mr. B.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:44:39   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
I don't care, because i don't believe it....the fact that you do speaks volumes, doesn't it?
I am not the one here constantly pushing God down other peoples necks, you are......there are documented pages upon pages of you not practicing what you preach, I'm not here to preach, i don't preach......so who is really stepping out of bounds here?


Wow! You don't believe that Christians are being persecuted in Mexico? You need to get out of the closet more often, because it is happening. It's a fact.

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Jul 28, 2017 09:53:24   #
Mr Bombastic
 
pafret wrote:
If you recall Christ was emphatic that he came to fulfill the old testament and gave the message of the new testament to replace it. While all of the bible is important, it must be remembered that the injunctions of the old testament are not necessarily replicated in the new. Further, your interpretation of what is occuring in Catholic worship is at odds with the reality --- No Catholic Worships a Graven Image. Anyone who does that is an idolater, not a Catholic. Whatever you saw was witnessed without comprehension and your interpretations of a reigion, of which you are ignorant, are worthless.

As far as what was once a crime, consider that early man made a practice of killing any stranger that entered their area. The Mayans engaged in bloody wars solely for the purpose of taking captives to be sacrificed to their gods and they ritually slew thousands of these at a time. After Martin Luther, the schismatic, defied the Pope and established his own religion, horny Henry VIII proceded with the English Reformation, in order to divorce and remarry, multiple times. From the beginning, the Catholic Church faced general persecution, regimentation and oppression in formerly Catholic countries. All of this is illustrative of what man does, in his ignorance and propensity to do evil.

You will note, it is man who does the evil not the church or the religion. You could, with equal irrelevance, ask me to justify the slaughters of Tammerlane or Enver Pasha who was responsible for the Armenian genocide in which he killed 1.5 million Christians. Enver was doing this for the sake of his god which if you believe moslems is the God of Abraham. These are acts of man, not God Mandated and not mandated by Catholicism. No one in those times was playing with a full deck.

To blame all the evil acts in history on Catholicism is to deny the sinful, evil nature of man, who performs these evil acts, while cloaking himself in Religion. It was done by Catholics and Protestants of all sects, none have clean hands.

Biblical exigesis is a difficult thing, anyone not capable of reading Aramaic, Hebrew, Classical Greek and Latin and who is not an expert historian on society of two thousand years ago is at a complete disadvantage as to what is actually written and how it was to be understood. The Jews have Talmudic Scholars and the Torah; they also had brilliant interpreters of the law who produced the Mishnas and the Gemara elucidations. The nearest equivalent in Christianity is Catholicism which is based on Biblical-Scriptural precepts and oral tradition for guidance in interpretation. The Apostles' Creed is based on Christian theological understanding of the Canonical gospels, the letters of the New Testament and to a lesser extent the Old Testament. It covers the basics but not all of Catholicism.
If you recall Christ was emphatic that he came to ... (show quote)


What I've been saying all along is that the Bible is the sole source of God's will in our lives. Men commit evil in the name of God. This is a fact. You are right that all denominations do it to some extent. I believe the Catholics are the worst offenders. That's all. They have many traditions that are contrary to Scripture. Putgatory, for one. There is no purgatory. God's word says that it is appointed unto a man once to die. Then the Judgement. No second chances. There are many more examples. Like their belief that Communion is the actual body and blood of Christ. Scripture does not support this. Then there was that little racket they had going where you had to give money to a priest to have your sins forgiven. I could go on and on.

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