Steve700 wrote:
Unlike you, I am not out to prove I am right, but to find truth. Unlike you, my ego is not involved. Admittedly they are primary experts but I gave you good reason for my doubts about anyone involved with Implosion World Magazine. Also the fact that the vast majority of demolition experts not associated with them agree that that the takedown of those buildings certainly seem to be OBVIOUS planned demolitions like what was implied by the statements of both Larry Silverstein and George Bush. Even to a simple common sense man like myself, it is obvious that buildings just don't come down so perfectly like that without pre-planned demolition. Although most are questionable I admit you have some points or indications for your point of view, but I don't see that any of them rule out planed demolitions or that no airplane strikes at all ever happened at the Pentagon or in that field. The evidence that it was an inside job is overwhelming with hundreds, do you hear me, hundreds of questions that have no answers other than that 9/11 was an inside job. You have nothing, NOTHING that there is no other answer to, other than that the government's version is accurate, true and correct. Are you too simpleminded to understand that fact or can you give me some examples to prove that I am wrong??? Like I said you lost the argument 100 pages ago and only making a fool of yourself with stupid assertions that ceiling tiles, desks and plastic computers and copy machines in a few localized fires can melt 4 to 6 inch thick steel.
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Unlike you, I am not out to prove I am right, but ... (
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You'll have to offer some verification on your claim that you know "the vast majority of demolition experts not associated with them agree that that the takedown of those buildings certainly seem to be OBVIOUS planned demolitions." I've been looking for these guys. Haven't found any.
BTW: The jet liners that struck the Pentagon and crashed in Pennsylvania were both Boeing 757s.
If you have hundreds of questions "that have no answers", how the hell does this lead to the conclusion that 9/11 could be nothing other than an inside job? Maybe you should get those questions answered before you assume what the answers should be. Sounds like a really piss poor way to seek the truth. About anything.
Since we are on the subject of questions. I must first ask why, whenever I, or anyone else, asks a 9/11 truther a question you never provide an honest and direct answer. Instead, what we get is a long rant about watching truther videos or we are personally attacked for even asking. I have yet to ask any truther on this forum a direct question and receive a direct and honest response. I was always hoping but never expecting that one of you could provide an intelligent response in your own words rather than screaming about watching another truther video or getting slammed for even asking.
So, here's a question:
First of all we have the truther claim that explosive detonations are occurring at every floor at the collapse front--as the tower collapses, debris is being blown away from the building, flashes of light are supposedly seen, squibs are predetonating far below the collapse front, people hear explosions and so on.
This suggests that a WTC tower was rigged, bottom to top, with explosive charges on every floor--some say "high explosives", some say "powerful explosives", some include thermite charges in addition to the compound explosives. (Some even suggest there were mini-nukes in the basements, but we won't go there.)
I will ignore the question of how this massive demolition project was planned, the buildings prepared and rigged.
A controlled demolition matrix includes, wiring, electronic relays, switches, sequencers, radio receivers, det cord, detonators, shielding, explosive charges and charge attachment mechanisms.
A demolition matrix involving every floor in a 110 story building would be highly complex and very expensive. Even a smaller project like bringing down a 10 story hotel requires weeks of planning and prep before explosives are even brought on site and the demolition system, once in place, is fairly complex.
For a controlled demolition system to function as planned, the integrity of the entire matrix must be intact, circuit continuity, whether hard wired or radio controlled, cannot be broken, the firing sequence must be calculated to within a fraction of a second and programmed into the firing computers, hard wired or radio controlled. To ensure this integrity and circuit continuity in a matrix involving every floor in a 110 story building, would be a formidable project all on its own. The entire system must be checked and checked again.
Now we come to the question of the aircraft impacts and how these obviously random events were somehow figured in to the overall plan. There is no question that the jets were flown by live pilots (the radio controlled aircraft argument is too far fetched to even consider, even though this would make no difference to the effects the impacts would have on the demolition system.)
The aircraft impacts into the towers were extremely violent events, the penetrations and fuel explosions caused massive damage inside the towers. These impacts would have certainly destroyed or detonated some or all explosive charges directly in the path which would have immediately destroyed the integrity and continuity of the entire demolition system. So, how did your inside jobbers pull that off? How did they manage to coordinate the aircraft strikes so they wouldn't destroy the demolition matrix? And, why did the trigger men, wherever they were hiding, wait for an hour or more before pushing the buttons? Why not just pull the triggers right after the impacts?
The North tower was hit at 8:46am and collapsed 1 hour and 48 minutes later. The South Tower was hit at 9:03am and collapsed 56 minutes later. Even though the South Tower was hit 17 minutes later than the North Tower, it collapsed close to a half hour before the North Tower came down. Why did that happen? Could it be that there was twice as much weight above the impact area in the South Tower as that in the North Tower?
Finally, no detonation of an explosive device, other than a nuke, completely vaporizes all the bomb components. There are always parts and pieces of the device found in the area of the blast--wiring, circuit boards, pieces of detonators, even unexploded det cord in the case of multiple charges. Had the twin towers been rigged from top to bottom with an extensive explosive system detonating on every floor, there would have been literally thousands of bomb parts and pieces in the rubble. Why was nothing of this kind ever found anywhere in entire area of the WTC?
Fair questions, Steve.