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May 23, 2017 15:34:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I need to learn how to format a post so it is clear enough that readers can understand what the f*ck I am talking about.

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May 23, 2017 15:38:49   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
bladerunner wrote >>>>>eagleye13 wrote:
I need to learn how to format a post so it is clear enough that readers can understand what the f*ck I am talking about.
Was that misquote on purpose, blade?
Are you getting desperate?


Blade_Runner wrote:
I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them, what sort of backward mentality would respond with truly grotesque photoshopped graphics or cartoonish clip art? p-1000 and S-700 obviously have a serious problem with this. This is a tactic of retarded children. These bizarre graphics are taking "Na na NA na na Nah" to a new level of imbecility.


"I must ask you, E, when a truther has no intelligent answer or response to anything that challenges them,..." - blader

I must tell you, Blade, when people have no intelligent answers or responses to anything that challenges them, and is obvious, I will call them out on it.

BladeR, Emarine, and A Mad Jester; answer the facts presented in the videos, regarding the Middle East foreign policy, and the BS behind it.
911 enabled the escalation of the mess in the Middle East. It gave the reason/excuse for the invasion of Iraq, Libya and Syria.
“USA’s” Foreign Policy
USA Foreign Policy is CFR/CIA/NeoCON foreign policy.
The NWO globalists have had it covered using both parties:
This is what USA’s CFR Foreign Policy has created all over.
All for “protecting” human rights? Libya before; Syria, Iraq, Somalia and etc.
As always; follow the money
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk

The road to WWIII by StormClowdsGathering.com
What's really going on in Syria? Let's look at the evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

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May 23, 2017 15:42:06   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You quote...The floor slabs could not have gained any momentum if the outer floor truss connections failed as emarine falsely claims. ...The bottom cross section of the floor trusses was 2"... they were every 6 feet... so if 45000tons fell on an interior wall "sheetrock & thin studs" with a contact foot print of 2" every six feet... you feel this would support the load or even slow it down...get real... not going to happen on this planet putz...


Concrete weighs 150 lbs per cubic foot. If you do the math, you'll find out that each floor slab (the entire square donut) would weigh 583.5 tons. Where do you get your figure of 45,000 tons?
Now you have claimed that only the outer floor slab truss connections failed at first, so at best only half that 583.5 tons would be falling, right? And since no floors were burning entirely, not all of that floor would be falling. I'm failing to see why you aren't totally embarrassed at the absurdity you're attempting to sell the world.
Oh wait. I forgot for a second. You refuse to reveal your identity so none of your attempted deceit will be traced to who you are in the real world.

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May 23, 2017 17:53:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Where do you get your figure of 45,000 tons?
Are you aware that the weight of the portion of the North Tower above the impact area was in the neighborhood of 68,000 tons, and the weight above the impact zone in the South Tower was approximately 136,000 tons?. Are you aware that, in each case, when the collapses began, gravity pulled that entire mass down onto each successive floor below? IOW, it was 68,000 tons and 136,000 tons respectively that came down on each successive floor. Moreover, as each successive floor was crushed, its mass was added to the collapsing mass. And, as the towers collapsed, the momentum increased. Yet, you insist that the total number of floors above the impact area could only crush an equal number of floors below. Are you aware that that idea defies every law of physics that can be applied to this situation? Sir Issac Newton would hang you from the nearest tree.

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May 23, 2017 17:59:23   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you aware that the weight of the portion of the North Tower above the impact area was in the neighborhood of 68,000 tons, and the weight above the impact zone in the South Tower was approximately 136,000 tons?. Are you aware that, in each case, when the collapses began, gravity pulled that entire mass down onto each successive floor below? IOW, it was 68,000 tons and 136,000 tons respectively that came down on each successive floor. Moreover, as each successive floor was crushed, its mass was added to the collapsing mass. And, as the towers collapsed, the momentum increased. Yet, you insist that the total number of floors above the impact area could only crush an equal number of floors below. Are you aware that that idea defies every law of physics that can be applied to this situation? Sir Issac Newton would hang you from the nearest tree.
Are you aware that the weight of the portion of th... (show quote)


Ate you aware of building 7, BR?
Apparently not.

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May 23, 2017 18:43:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Steve700 wrote:
Especially oxygen starved buyers that were localized to certain areas on vacant floors where the planes mysteriously happen to get.
You mean fires, not "buyers". Over 200 of the oxygen starved buyers above the fires jumped to their deaths. This suggests that conditions up there were very hot. In fact several of those trapped who were on the phones with the 911 dispatchers were screaming about the heat.

BTW: how in the world did you come up with the twisted idea that the floors where the jets hit were vacant? In fact, Marsh & McLennan companies occupied every floor that the jet hit in the North Tower. And Fuji Bank occupied floors 79 through 82 in the South Tower--directly in the path of the jet.

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These ARE NOT small oxygen starved fires, not by a long shot.
These ARE NOT small oxygen starved fires, not by a...











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May 23, 2017 19:33:27   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you aware that the weight of the portion of the North Tower above the impact area was in the neighborhood of 68,000 tons, and the weight above the impact zone in the South Tower was approximately 136,000 tons?. Are you aware that, in each case, when the collapses began, gravity pulled that entire mass down onto each successive floor below? IOW, it was 68,000 tons and 136,000 tons respectively that came down on each successive floor. Moreover, as each successive floor was crushed, its mass was added to the collapsing mass. And, as the towers collapsed, the momentum increased. Yet, you insist that the total number of floors above the impact area could only crush an equal number of floors below. Are you aware that that idea defies every law of physics that can be applied to this situation? Sir Issac Newton would hang you from the nearest tree.
Are you aware that the weight of the portion of th... (show quote)


The problem with your lies is that none of the fires were big enough, hot enough or burned long enough to weaken any steel.
Even if they had been, the towers would have remained standing just as all the burning skyscrapers have throughout the hundred-year history of skyscrapers. Many of those historic fires burned much longer and hotter than the fires on 9/11. None of them fell.

When the explosives were detonated after the thermite had cut the steel columns in the impact area, 80% to 90% of the debris was thrown outside the footprint of the towers. Therefore mass was subtracted from that falling on the lower floors, not added as you falsely claim.

Sir Isaac Newton would agree with me . . .
Formally stated, Newton's third law is: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object.
There was no equal and opposite reaction during the collapse of either tower. Both towers fell as if falling through no resistance at all. They were falling through no resistance. All the undamaged lower floors were taken out with explosives.

The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. That means the top section of floors at most would have the energy to pulverize as many floors as they contained and no more than that.





80 to 90% of the debris was ejected hundreds of feet outward from the tower. There was nothing left to comprise a "pile driver."
80 to 90% of the debris was ejected hundreds of fe...

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May 23, 2017 19:41:28   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You mean fires, not "buyers". Over 200 of the oxygen starved buyers above the fires jumped to their deaths. This suggests that conditions up there were very hot. In fact several of those trapped who were on the phones with the 911 dispatchers were screaming about the heat.

BTW: how in the world did you come up with the twisted idea that the floors where the jets hit were vacant? In fact, Marsh & McLennan companies occupied every floor that the jet hit in the North Tower. And Fuji Bank occupied floors 79 through 82 in the South Tower--directly in the path of the jet.

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You mean fires, not "buyers". Over 200 o... (show quote)


Why was L. Paul Bremer who worked at Marsh & McLennan in the towers not at work that day?
Guess where he was? He was at MSNBC telling the world it was Osama Bin Laden who was behind the attacks.
How did he know this?
"L. Paul Bremer, of Marsh & McLennan, which at the time was the world’s largest insurance brokerage company. Bremer was also a terrorist expert as he was also the chairman of the Congressional National Commission on Terrorism from 1999 – 2000. Instead of going to work on 9/11 and dying inside the towers with hundreds of his employees, Bremer decided to appear on MSNBC and tell the national TV audience that Osama bin Laden was behind the attacks. Bremer later became the Iraq occupation governor, which led to the destruction of Iraq. Bremer also previously worked for Komatsu & Dresser, a company that patented a nanothermite detonation device that could “demolish a concrete structure at high efficiency.” Residue of thermite have been confirmed in samples from the World Trade Center dust." http://consciouslifenews.com/911-masterminds-explosive-connections/1121078/

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May 23, 2017 19:49:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Ate you aware of building 7, BR?
Apparently not.


4409 -- (Unseen Footage) Tower 7 blasted into rubble from NEW angle!
https://youtu.be/972ETepp4GI

BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early! Says it has Fallen Yet it Still Stands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYlUSGteS4E

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May 23, 2017 20:05:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
The problem with your lies is that none of the fires were big enough, hot enough or burned long enough to weaken any steel.
Even if they had been, the towers would have remained standing just as all the burning skyscrapers have throughout the hundred-year history of skyscrapers. Many of those historic fires burned much longer and hotter than the fires on 9/11. None of them fell.

When the explosives were detonated after the thermite had cut the steel columns in the impact area, 80% to 90% of the debris was thrown outside the footprint of the towers. Therefore mass was subtracted from that falling on the lower floors, not added as you falsely claim.

Sir Isaac Newton would agree with me . . .
Formally stated, Newton's third law is: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object.
There was no equal and opposite reaction during the collapse of either tower. Both towers fell as if falling through no resistance at all. They were falling through no resistance. All the undamaged lower floors were taken out with explosives.

The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. That means the top section of floors at most would have the energy to pulverize as many floors as they contained and no more than that.
The problem with your lies is that none of the fir... (show quote)
There is really no way to respond to this depth of ignorance. Everything you say here shows a complete rejection of reality. Not to mention your total lack of understanding the dynamic application of Newton's 3rd law. You do nothing but butcher the laws of science just so you can make them fit your conspiratorial agenda. Such intellectual dishonesty is inexplicable. How you have gotten yourself trapped in such a twisted mental jungle is a true mystery.

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May 23, 2017 20:08:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Ate you aware of building 7, BR?
Apparently not.
Yep, I'm totally aware of building 7. I am aware of what happened to cause it to collapse, and it wasn't a controlled demolition.

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May 23, 2017 20:20:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yep, I'm totally aware of building 7. I am aware of what happened to cause it to collapse, and it wasn't a controlled demolition.


Who you fronting for BR?

(2016) 9/11 Actor Exposed - Fake Witness Live on TV
https://youtu.be/Z45hI6YuC-I


What Really happened on 9/11? - William Rodriguez
https://youtu.be/hQq96Oh2hEI

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May 23, 2017 21:31:57   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Concrete weighs 150 lbs per cubic foot. If you do the math, you'll find out that each floor slab (the entire square donut) would weigh 583.5 tons. Where do you get your figure of 45,000 tons?
Now you have claimed that only the outer floor slab truss connections failed at first, so at best only half that 583.5 tons would be falling, right? And since no floors were burning entirely, not all of that floor would be falling. I'm failing to see why you aren't totally embarrassed at the absurdity you're attempting to sell the world.
Oh wait. I forgot for a second. You refuse to reveal your identity so none of your attempted deceit will be traced to who you are in the real world.
Concrete weighs 150 lbs per cubic foot. If you do ... (show quote)



If one floor weighed 4500tons X10 floors =45,000 minimum...there was also the weight of steel involved which would double my estimate ...both tower tops fell off angle allowing the outer frame work to peel outward as the top sections fell straight down inside the lower section of floors overloading the outer floor trusses first allowing the entire outer frame to free fall outward faster... there was almost no resistance as the outer frame peeled outward in open air... if you watch all the videos you can see the framework peeling off the structure in open air... there were no explosions throwing anything anywhere... F=m*a ...read the report & quit the drama... it even has pretty pictures ...


...http://app.aws.org/wj/supplement/WJ_2007_09_s263.pdf



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May 24, 2017 02:20:55   #
Steve700
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yep, I'm totally aware of building 7. I am aware of what happened to cau^se it to collapse, and it wasn't a controlled demolition.
You have neither awareness, nor integrity. That fire didn't start from the one nearly a mile above. Nobody knows where it came from because it was deliberately started and it was only happening in a fraction of the whole building. Silverstein incriminating himself saying i a decision was being made to 'Pull It", a demolition term and how could they pull it unless it was already set with the explosives???????? Good God, you are F*cking Dumb.
Blade_Runner wrote:
You mean fires, not "buyers". Over 200 of the oxygen starved buyers above the fires jumped to their deaths. This suggests that conditions up there were very hot. In fact several of those trapped who were on the phones with the 911 dispatchers were screaming about the heat.

BTW: how in the world did you come up with the twisted idea that the floors where the jets hit were vacant? In fact, Marsh & McLennan companies occupied every floor that the jet hit in the North Tower. And Fuji Bank occupied floors 79 through 82 in the South Tower--directly in the path of the jet.

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You mean fires, not "buyers". Over 200 o... (show quote)

All right, mostly vacant. How's that? From those pictures you posted it sure looks like less than 1/4th of the area inside on those several floors was on fire. And of course those fires were oxygen starved. The only air other than the inside those floors which was soon consumed, was the holes made by the planes and a few broken windows. And you claim to be a fireman but don't seem to know black smoke means incomplete fuel combustion. (Even in a car it means excess gas and not enough air. Gray smoke indicates oil burning --- I used to teach auto mechanics with carburetors as a specialty? Where is your brain????????????????



Why don't you just Shut the F*ck Up --- and quit getting so obsessed on that one tiny issue. The evidence is still totally overwhelming without any thought of whether it was a planned demolition or not.
Why don't you just Shut the F*ck Up  ---   and qui...

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May 24, 2017 07:53:30   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There is really no way to respond to this depth of ignorance. Everything you say here shows a complete rejection of reality. Not to mention your total lack of understanding the dynamic application of Newton's 3rd law. You do nothing but butcher the laws of science just so you can make them fit your conspiratorial agenda. Such intellectual dishonesty is inexplicable. How you have gotten yourself trapped in such a twisted mental jungle is a true mystery.


There is no way to respond to the truth except with insults.
Insults are not rebuttal.
When you have no rebuttal, you are admitting my post was factual.

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