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May 20, 2017 16:11:25   #
Nickolai
 
Loki wrote:
Then why were the Electoral College and the Second Amendment not done away with at the end of the Civil War? Clueless, myopic Liberals such as yourself are becoming an anachronism. The Constitution is alive and well, in spite of you people.
You are an idiot. Slavery remained legal in four Northern States that did not secede, and was not ended there until nearly a year after Lee's surrender.
Of the 55 men who became known as the Founding Fathers, members of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, almost half were slave owners. (29). 11 of the 29 were Northerners.
As slavery became unprofitable in the north due to increasing industrialization, the oh, so moral northerners sold their slaves to buyers in other states, (including the four northern states where slavery remained legal). They then became abolitionists who demanded that the people who had bought their slaves free them with no remuneration. There was not one single US flagged slave ship that was ever owned by Southern interests. They were all owned by Northerners, many of whom became "abolitionists" after making their own fortunes off the trade in human bondage.Every US flagged slave ship was owned by Northerners. Pay attention, Nikolai. Every. Single. One.
Your argument that the Second Amendment was simply so Southern slave owners could chase their runaway slaves is beyond ridiculous. The US was overwhelmingly rural, with very little law enforcement. Large parts were wilderness. Sure, the Second Amendment was included simply because some one or two percent of the population owned slaves. Every time I think you cannot be any more naive or ill-informed, you surprise me again.
Then why were the Electoral College and the Second... (show quote)






Slavery ended every where In the US with the emancipation proclamation by Lincoln in January 1863 the war did not end officially until May 1865. I don't know why the second amendment and the electoral college was not abolished I supposed they had their reasons but that was over 150 years ago Trough the late 1700's and early 1800's the British were the main slavers by mid century the slave industry was all but over

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May 20, 2017 16:19:53   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Nickolai wrote:
Slavery ended every where In the US with the emancipation proclamation by Lincoln in January 1863 the war did not end officially until May 1865. I don't know why the second amendment and the electoral college was not abolished I supposed they had their reasons but that was over 150 years ago Trough the late 1700's and early 1800's the British were the main slavers by mid century the slave industry was all but over


The electorial college is to keep bigger states like california from overwhelming the election because of their size.Thats my understanding of it.

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May 20, 2017 16:24:31   #
Nickolai
 
cesspool jones wrote:
One thing you forgot dipshit....what about the millions of jobs coast to coast back then?







Un employment averaged 7 % During the Reagan administration

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May 20, 2017 16:27:48   #
Nickolai
 
bggamers wrote:
where have you been in a closet. Look up what trump has done in his first 100 days and it would have been more if your obstuctionist idiots would do their job not act like little kids






What obstructionist ? Oh you mean the Freedom caucus of the Republican party the Democrats haven't done any thing but stand by and arch the Republicans self destruct

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May 20, 2017 16:32:23   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
Un employment averaged 7 % During the Reagan administration


How come the help wanted ads in all newspapers back in the 80's were close to an inch thick?

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May 20, 2017 16:34:20   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
What obstructionist ? Oh you mean the Freedom caucus of the Republican party the Democrats haven't done any thing but stand by and arch the Republicans self destruct


Wait till the REAL destruction coming around the bend

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May 20, 2017 16:44:19   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Nickolai wrote:
The Electoral College was devised to placate the southern slave states who had smaller white populations and large black slave populations and the electoral college was a devise to give the slaves states more power. The second amendment was another concession to the slave owners who maintained well regulated militia's for running down runaway slaves and up risings all young men in the south were required to serve in these militias and provide their own weapon. Bothe the second amendment and the electoral college are 18th century concepts are out dated and have no place in a modern 21st century society
The Electoral College was devised to placate the s... (show quote)


Nick, you are very lost and very confused. You are so far gone, you will need professional help to undo your mind control.

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May 20, 2017 17:03:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Nickolai wrote:
That's bull The only thing has as done is to carry out what billionaires want, the freedom to pollute. The deficit has been falling since 2010 so that is not new. His budget cuts the EPA's office of science and technology in half. His health care bill is a $765 billion tax cut for couples making over $250,000 over 10 years. I don't see a thing in any EO's that addresses the problems of the working class

Maybe you should look again, this time open your eyes and take the blinkers off.

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May 20, 2017 17:08:23   #
Nickolai
 
bggamers wrote:
The electorial college is to keep bigger states like california from overwhelming the election because of their size.Thats my understanding of it.







That's largely correct

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May 20, 2017 17:12:30   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is no mention of democracy in the constitution because the founders believed that only the elites were qualified to run government and so believed aristocrats, men of property should run government they regarded democracy as mobocracy and they wanted to be aristocrats free from the English Monarchy but aristocrats in the new country

Bzzzt! Incorrect. Here's a rundown of how it all shakes out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL8CiUtXF0

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May 20, 2017 17:17:03   #
Nickolai
 
cesspool jones wrote:
How come the help wanted ads in all newspapers back in the 80's were close to an inch thick?








I don't recall that the want ads were an inch thick there are always want ads. What I do recall is an orgy of mergers, acquisitions, leveraged buy outs hostile take overs and corporate raiders buying up companies like Sunbeam Corporation breaking it to pieces and selling the pieces, Raiding the employee trust funds for the cash beating down unions and forcing give backs. the bank
de-regulation that caused the collapse of the S&L's contributing to a rash of corruption that landed 1,100 people in prison ended and a bail out by taxpayers

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May 20, 2017 17:20:09   #
Nickolai
 
vettelover wrote:
Nick, you are very lost and very confused. You are so far gone, you will need professional help to undo your mind control.








I'm not making it up its what the history books tell me. I wasn't there so I have to rely on history books If some one can prove the historians are wrong I'll admit I've been wrong

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May 20, 2017 17:20:21   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Nickolai wrote:
Whatever modicum of democracy the US has acquired has been fought for Originally Native Americans, indentured servants, landless peasants, and women were not allowed to vote of serve on juries. It would be 40 50 years before landless peasants could vote and another 70 yrs before women could. The progressive movement began in 1892 and brought reforms and a modicum of democracy until its end in 1972







You better go back to your native country, Nicki, because you don't have a clue about ours!!! And the hate you (D)ispense is pure "lefty" BS!!! Perhaps you could get some correspondence courses in Russia? Iran? Kenya? Uganda? Chad? and study a bit of American history and English; but GTFOH!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R); JUST LIKE THE WEATHER!!!

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May 20, 2017 17:25:21   #
Nickolai
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Maybe you should look again, this time open your eyes and take the blinkers off.




https://youtu.be/7bdZvyxBPxA
Trump could not care less about blue collar working class people he cannot come close to relating to them but he was advised that if he was to win he would have to turn the rust belt fed so he fed into it with the bull about jobs, jobs, jobs, but he filled the swamp with billionaires

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May 20, 2017 17:31:12   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
I don't recall that the want ads were an inch thick there are always want ads. What I do recall is an orgy of mergers, acquisitions, leveraged buy outs hostile take overs and corporate raiders buying up companies like Sunbeam Corporation breaking it to pieces and selling the pieces, Raiding the employee trust funds for the cash beating down unions and forcing give backs. the bank
de-regulation that caused the collapse of the S&L's contributing to a rash of corruption that landed 1,100 people in prison ended and a bail out by taxpayers
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That’s funny because if you weren't working in the 80's, you were either dead, not born or locked up. That was because of Reagan. Why don't you look up a newspaper from 85 and count all the help wanted ads.Your computer don't go up that high. Anyone who pisses on trickle down theory is actually mentally fucking retarded...like you.

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