Loki Loc: Georgia

Oh, but they didn't siphon any Republican votes?

John Illinois

This is not a Democracy, it is a representative Republic. Want a perfect example of a DEMOCRACY?--A Lynch Mob--there is only 1 dissenting vote! There is not 1 election in this whole country for President, but 50 individual ones, each with varying electoral vote totals. There are 3141 counties in the USA. Hillary won fewer than 75 of them. Her total popular vote margin, of under 3 Million, was equal to her margin of victory in 4 of the 5 counties of New York City, plus Los Angeles County. Not her total vote tally. just her margin of victory in those places. How many of those 3 million were fraudulent, either dead voters, illegals, or otherwise ineligible? Look what happened with Jill Stein's recount effort--Trump actually increased his lead in Wisconsin; Michigan called it off, when they discovered many precincts in Detroit reported many times more votes for Hillary than they claimed live voters who showed up at the pole. Pennsylvania refused to even try to recount Philadelphia. Obviously, Chicago isn't the only Democrat stronghold where the rule is "vote early, vote often". I saw a report that claimed that the cemetery vote in Cook and the Collar counties of Illinois accounts for 10% of the total state vote in Presidential elections, and as much as 40% in off year contests. This was based on the fact that the number of democrat votes in those counties varies by less than 5% in any election, while the non-democrat vote total varies exactly like the rest of the state, with as little as 25% showing up in off year contests. The Electoral College makes it so a candidate has to appeal to the whole country, not just New York and Los Angeles.

Nickolai

The Electoral College was devised to placate the southern slave states who had smaller white populations and large black slave populations and the electoral college was a devise to give the slaves states more power. The second amendment was another concession to the slave owners who maintained well regulated militia's for running down runaway slaves and up risings all young men in the south were required to serve in these militias and provide their own weapon. Bothe the second amendment and the electoral college are 18th century concepts are out dated and have no place in a modern 21st century society

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Al Capone was a two bit street thug who would have stayed that way if not for the introduction of prohibition. He got lucky and still couldn't keep it together well enough to stay out of prison. It was public opposition to prohibition that made his fortune, and most certainly not any kind of intelligent application of good business sense. By what logic can you assume to compare the President of the United States to... that?


So let me get this straight: Instead of paying taxes, Donald Trump paid politicians instead. That's interesting. In either case, he is paying out, whether to the IRS or the politicians in Congress, the money is no longer there for his use. How on Earth is that helping his business? What difference does it make who he paid out to if the money is no longer of any use to him? In what universe does that make any sense?


It's called 'symbiosis'. There's examples of it throughout nature. Bees and flowers, for instance. Bees collect pollen, and at the same time they pollinate the flower. Without pollination, the resulting seeds would be sterile. This is generally referred to a 'mutual' symbiosis. In another example, the clownfish feeds on small invertebrates that otherwise have potential to harm the sea anemone, and the fecal matter from the clownfish provides nutrients to the sea anemone. The clownfish is additionally protected from predators by the anemone's stinging cells, to which the clownfish is immune. The clownfish also emits a high pitched sound that deters butterfly fish, which would otherwise eat the anemone.

So, yeah, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours...

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

He's putting things in order...hasn't been done by a businessman in DC. You just sit back and wait and see. Drink a beer on me.

Nickolai

The state of Wyoming has a population of 584,000 and California is near 40 million yet both states have two Senators. The Electoral College also gives rural areas more voting power than the cities is this not a form of tyranny. The majority definitely does not rule. I live near an urban are and the wing nuts that live In the boonies who like to be left alone while they cheat on their taxes have the power through the electoral college

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=72788

Read and weep...you clown!

John Illinois

That is not quite the full facts in the issue. While it is true that each state has 2 Senators, the house of Representatives is population based. I don't know exactly how many reps Wyoming or Cal has, but California has a whole lot more than Wyoming. The electoral college has 1 vote for each Senator, plus 1 vote for each Representative, so each citizen has about the same effect. Rural voters do not have more influence, because rural districts may cover several counties, where urban districts may cover a few square miles. Cheating on your taxes is just as illegal in rural areas as it is in urban areas.

Nickolai

There is no mention of democracy in the constitution because the founders believed that only the elites were qualified to run government and so believed aristocrats, men of property should run government they regarded democracy as mobocracy and they wanted to be aristocrats free from the English Monarchy but aristocrats in the new country

Loki Loc: Georgia

Then why were the Electoral College and the Second Amendment not done away with at the end of the Civil War? Clueless, myopic Liberals such as yourself are becoming an anachronism. The Constitution is alive and well, in spite of you people.
You are an idiot. Slavery remained legal in four Northern States that did not secede, and was not ended there until nearly a year after Lee's surrender.
Of the 55 men who became known as the Founding Fathers, members of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, almost half were slave owners. (29). 11 of the 29 were Northerners.
As slavery became unprofitable in the north due to increasing industrialization, the oh, so moral northerners sold their slaves to buyers in other states, (including the four northern states where slavery remained legal). They then became abolitionists who demanded that the people who had bought their slaves free them with no remuneration. There was not one single US flagged slave ship that was ever owned by Southern interests. They were all owned by Northerners, many of whom became "abolitionists" after making their own fortunes off the trade in human bondage.Every US flagged slave ship was owned by Northerners. Pay attention, Nikolai. Every. Single. One.
Your argument that the Second Amendment was simply so Southern slave owners could chase their runaway slaves is beyond ridiculous. The US was overwhelmingly rural, with very little law enforcement. Large parts were wilderness. Sure, the Second Amendment was included simply because some one or two percent of the population owned slaves. Every time I think you cannot be any more naive or ill-informed, you surprise me again.

Nickolai

Nasty, nasty, man-----Just hang on to your beliefs. I know it is the most difficult thing In the world for conservatives to admit they are wrong about every thing all the time. Always on the wrong side of history. Please list the accomplishment of conservatives since the Renaissance I can find none William F . Buckley considered by some as the father of the modern conservative movement once wrote that the job of the conservative as to ( stand athwart history shouting STOP) And that's their only accomplishment

Nickolai

The same can be said about a Republic. Rome began as Republic, so was the Soviet Union, so was Germany, A Republic can only last until the wealthy realize they can use the power of their wealth to buy influence from the representatives and curry favor for them selves then it becomes a Plutocracy a form of oligarchy

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Sounds like you were there. They wanted to be aristocrats....never learned that in school for some reason.

Nickolai

That is not a true statement there is no evidence of millions of fraudulent votes It is Complete Bull Shit Like the claim that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower Bull Shit

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Never learned that in school either. Which end of the earthworm is the ass?