One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
the electorial votes
Page <<first <prev 3 of 19 next> last>>
May 20, 2017 13:41:40   #
Nickolai
 
rustex007 wrote:
I believed that's what democracy means, the will of the people, by the people and for the people. the electoral vote was install for this precise blunder wouldn't occurred, they where supposed to be the most intellectual's with the knowledge to fit best the country , and trump maybe intellectual in his fields, and businesses but; he has proven an ignorant in everything else, not even US history. he is a successful business guy, but that's about it doesn't know anything when it comes to world affairs, none the less how to run a country
I believed that's what democracy means, the will o... (show quote)






Al Capone was good at making a lot of money all it takes is devious mind. The key to Trumps successful Real Estate business was the ability to negotiate big tax abatements from the politicians and then making large contributions to their political campaigns. The policy of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours

Reply
May 20, 2017 13:47:24   #
Nickolai
 
rustex007 wrote:
lock him up








Paul Krugman predicted in January he wouldn't last 6 months. He might make it to a year his approval is downto38 % and the trajectory is down but his hard core supporters are and will stick with him to the end it is the most difficult thing in the world fof a conservative to admit they made a mistake. But there comes a time when its better to cut the loses and leave the table

Reply
May 20, 2017 13:52:54   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Nickolai wrote:
As citizens of this democracy, you are the rulers and the ruled, the law-givers and the law-abiding, the beginning and the end. Adlai E. Stevenson

And there we see a solid indication as to why he was so unelectable. He had no grasp of the American political system. If he had spent more time learning about the system he was so wanting to guide and influence, he would have understood that the United States are not a democracy but a collection of independent republics. Guess we dodged yet another bullet there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL8CiUtXF0

Reply
 
 
May 20, 2017 14:11:55   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
rustex007 wrote:
I'm still waiting for trump start fulfilling on all of his promises in his campaign and his just wasting time, twitting his presidency away, going nowhere, accomplishing nothing. he is a spiral burning down


First thing he needs to do immediately....declare democrats unfit to rule then abolish the party before people like me do it with high powered warfare.

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:14:36   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
Paul Krugman predicted in January he wouldn't last 6 months. He might make it to a year his approval is downto38 % and the trajectory is down but his hard core supporters are and will stick with him to the end it is the most difficult thing in the world fof a conservative to admit they made a mistake. But there comes a time when its better to cut the loses and leave the table


What really needs to happen, and soon, is for people like me to put bullets in the domes of people like you. Don't haaaaaaate me.

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:16:04   #
John Illinois
 
True, the raw count of votes gave Hillary something under 3 million votes more than Trump. You do not have 1 big election for President., but 51 individual elections. Her under 3 million vote margin amounted to her victory margin in 4 of the 5 Boroughs of New York City, plus Los Angeles County. There are 3141 counties in the USA. Hillary won fewer than 75 of them. I saw an election integrity report that claimed that the cemetery vote in Cook and the collar counties in Illinois account for 10% of the total state vote in Presidential elections, and as much as 40% in off year contests. They based that on the fact that the number of Democrat votes in these areas doesn't vary by 10%, while the non-democrat vote varies by exactly the same percent as the rest of the state--meaning it is not unusual for there to be less than 25% of the total votes in off year elections than happen during Presidential contests. Look what happened in Michigan when they tried to recount the ballots in Detroit-- they quit when they found several precincts where they discovered that the number of votes for Hillary was several times the total number of voters who they claimed showed up at the poles. Obviously, Chicago isn't the only Democrat stronghold where the instruction is "Vote early, vote often".

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:16:53   #
Nickolai
 
Loki wrote:
He has already accomplished quite a bit. He has increased security at the border. Illegal border crossings are way down.
He has put a bridle on the EPA. The next time they want to pollute the Mancos River and screw up several thousand square miles of aquifer, someone will be held accountable.
He is cutting funding to the UN, and NATO will now start carrying their share of the load.
Contrary to the Liberal bullshit being propogated, Trump's tax plan will benefit the middle class. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Most of what Trump has been stymied in is the result of RINOs, and of Obama appointed and Democrat approved judges.
He has done more good for this country so far than Obama did in 8 years.
By the way, you DO realize the deficit is down also?
He has already accomplished quite a bit. He has in... (show quote)






That's bull The only thing has as done is to carry out what billionaires want, the freedom to pollute. The deficit has been falling since 2010 so that is not new. His budget cuts the EPA's office of science and technology in half. His health care bill is a $765 billion tax cut for couples making over $250,000 over 10 years. I don't see a thing in any EO's that addresses the problems of the working class

Reply
 
 
May 20, 2017 14:24:25   #
LiberalLulu
 
rustex007 wrote:
Why is it?, that nobody is talking about the electoral votes, that's their fault, they're is the blunder, when they gave trump the presidency against the majority of popular votes and knowingly how trump was not an intellectual person capable to hold office


Better read this, before you go blabbing your ignorance to everyone: "The Death of Democracy":

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-100593-1.html

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:27:47   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
rustex007 wrote:
I believed that's what democracy means, the will of the people, by the people and for the people. the electoral vote was install for this precise blunder wouldn't occurred, they where supposed to be the most intellectual's with the knowledge to fit best the country , and trump maybe intellectual in his fields, and businesses but; he has proven an ignorant in everything else, not even US history. he is a successful business guy, but that's about it doesn't know anything when it comes to world affairs, none the less how to run a country
I believed that's what democracy means, the will o... (show quote)


The electoral college is here to prevent a small.but heavily populated portion of the country from controlling an election. Your reason for it is incorrect. If it was correct there would be no need for it. It does exist therefore you are wrong. I don't live in NY or CA and will not have them pick my president.

Why is it that as long as Hillary and the left was positive that she would win the electoral college the EC was a positive in her favor and a wonderful thing, but the moment Trump won it, it is terrible?

Face it, Trump out foxed you. If there were no EC he wouldn't have focused on so many lesser.populated states but instead would have focused on the popular vote which he would have most probably controlled as he did the EC.

And before you bespeak yourself regarding the popular vote, be aware that the ongoing investigations into voter fraud are showing that when the illegal and otherwise fraudulent votes are removed, he won the popular vote also.

You seem to struggle with the fact that more people favoured him than her.

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:31:19   #
Nickolai
 
rustex007 wrote:
behind the constitution and the laws you so; much you say you know. there are reasons and ideas that lend you into democracy, unless you understand it as dictatorial, nationalist or aristocracy is up to you. now , when it comes to native language you right; I'm not from Great Brittan so; English is not my original language like yours, I assumed you are from England right? but; I don't think that has nothing to do with having an intelligent conversation.








Whatever modicum of democracy the US has acquired has been fought for Originally Native Americans, indentured servants, landless peasants, and women were not allowed to vote of serve on juries. It would be 40 50 years before landless peasants could vote and another 70 yrs before women could. The progressive movement began in 1892 and brought reforms and a modicum of democracy until its end in 1972

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:34:26   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
rustex007 wrote:
I'm still waiting for trump start fulfilling on all of his promises in his campaign and his just wasting time, twitting his presidency away, going nowhere, accomplishing nothing. he is a spiral burning down


You really must pay better attention. He has achieved quite a lot already and that is with your.party trying to stymie him at every move. The public sees that and will tell you so at midterm.

Now, how do we rate his.progress? By the volume of the squealing from the left.

Reply
 
 
May 20, 2017 14:36:55   #
Nickolai
 
JimMe wrote:
rustex007... The Electoral College was Constitutionally set-up to avoid a "popular vote" that would be exclusively dominated by the States with the most Citizens... Every Individual State has a number of Electorates based on the number of House of Representatives that State has, as well as 2 Senate Electorates... The number of "popular votes" in the entire USA has never been instituted... Also, Hillary Clinton didn't get a majority of the "popular votes"... She got 48.2%, or a "plurality of the votes"...
rustex007... The Electoral College was Constitutio... (show quote)





She failed to get over 50 % because of a third party vote that siphoned democratic votes away

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:36:59   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
rustex007 wrote:
lock him up


You are rapidly becoming just another snowflake. Do you need.your safe place yet?

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:43:01   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
rustex007 wrote:
Why is it?, that nobody is talking about the electoral votes, that's their fault, they're is the blunder, when they gave trump the presidency against the majority of popular votes and knowingly how trump was not an intellectual person capable to hold office


"Why is it?, that nobody is talking about the electoral votes"

Maybe its because we have been legally electing our President for 240 years this way!!! I am guessing you are clueless to why we use the electoral college?

Another brainless troll entering OPP. Great!

Reply
May 20, 2017 14:43:02   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Nickolai wrote:
That's bull The only thing has as done is to carry out what billionaires want, the freedom to pollute. The deficit has been falling since 2010 so that is not new. His budget cuts the EPA's office of science and technology in half. His health care bill is a $765 billion tax cut for couples making over $250,000 over 10 years. I don't see a thing in any EO's that addresses the problems of the working class


As a matter of fact, the EPA will find itself accountable the next time they decide to ruin several thousand miles of aquifer.
I don't think the BATFE will find itself insulated and unaccountable the next time they "lose" 2500 guns, while prosecuting innocent people who make a paperwork mistake.
The IRS is about to get an enema.
Maybe you can enlighten us as to exactly HOW Trump's tax plan screw the middle class?
Maybe you are angry because illegal border crossings are at their lowest point in years, and Democrats are missing out on all those wetback votes from people who don't have to prove they are US citizens to vote.
Are you having to hire an American for a cabana boy?

Reply
Page <<first <prev 3 of 19 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.