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Apr 20, 2017 10:20:11   #
Kazudy
 
You are a prime example of what a mind numb,Kool-Aid drinking,can't see the light pinko commie is. He put us in so much debt that our children and gran children will have a hard time paying off. He like any company that spends more then it takes in,gets in deep dark doo doo. He showed the world what a coward he is,by drawing a line NOT TO BE CROSSED,then ran like a scared little girl when it was crossed. Obama IS a gay rights,pro abortion,take from the working class to give to people that refuse to work. And those are the reason you love him,he is your brother in politics.

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Apr 20, 2017 18:58:25   #
Mikeyavelli
 
When the truth is out, obama will become an asterisk in history.
America's First Black Eye.
Obama knows what's coming, that's why he's out of the country, in a safe place from American jurisdiction.

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Apr 20, 2017 20:03:10   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Obama was a very successful president but Republicans have to pretend it never happened and lie about how he was successful.

Republicans have told you that a president cannot take credit for a strong economy unless it's a Republican. Bush recession Obamas fault strong economy just deny it. Low unemployment it's people leaving the workforce except one month after a republican takes office. Then the talking point changes.

A weak economy is always a democrats fault. If it's a republican president who presides over the worst financial crisis in half a century after 7 years in office that is clearly the fault of poor people. Now this is the republican way.

Well it's time to answer the phrase coined by John Boehner which every republican used as there main talking point to fire up the right wing base. (WHERE ARE THE Jobs) when all polls now show that Obama is getting the credit he so much deserves when between 56% and 58% say that Obama presidency was a success. Has anybody heard a republican bring this up.

Well after creating over 12 million jobs and saving well over 3 million jobs and cutting unemployment to 4.7%, a stock market that has more than doubled, deficit spending cut by two thirds, healthcare inflation at its lowest rate in nearly 50 years, manufacturing jobs increased, auto industry at his highest sale ever, doubled Clean energy jobs, and creating double the jobs of oil and gas, and deportation at an all time low. Reference BLS, GAO, Immigration Department, division of unemployment.

So let's take a look:
Under Bush 4.5 million manufacturing jobs lost. Under Obama since 2010 when Bush recession slowed due to the stimulus Obama created 1.75 million manufacturing jobs. ( See BLS) this has been the first sustained increase seen in a long time according to the BLS. Manufacturing coming back. But do Republican cans tell you this.

When Obama took office the US stock market was in free fall. The financial crisis was in full swing following the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the S&P closed at 805 pints. Eight years later the S&P is at 2,274 points it came back 235% with an annualized gain of 16.4%. Bill Clinton another democratic president actually beat Obama returning 264% or 17.5 % annualized gain. There were 469 stocks being traded when Obama took office only 12 of them ended up negative. But did republicans ever tell you that.

When Obama took office deficit spending for his first year 2009 which was under the Bush budget was a whopping $1.4 trillion which was on the heels of the Bush recession, and financial crisis but Republicans ignore this mess like it never happened. But by the time Obama left office deficit spending was at $486 billion the deficit spending was decreasing due to Obama lowering unemployment so the government was taking in 9% more tax payer funds from individuals income and payroll taxes and receipts from the federal reserve. According to the CBO over the last 4 years spending has been controlled under Obama more than ever. The High deficit under Obama which republicans like to use for his first 3 years was due to the Bush recession, Bush Tax cuts, while fighting two wars, due to low revenues while at 10% unemployment it's pretty simple math but republicans have never been known for math they just can't add they just know how to blame.

So let's address labor force participation another hidden secret by Republicans for over 7 years until Trump was elected. How often did the Republicans use that phony fact. When Obama took office labor force participation was at 65.7% when Obama left office the rate was at 62.7% a decline of 3%. A constant right wing talking point (DON'T BE FOOLED BY DECLINING UNEMPLOYMENT RATES) but what republicans failed to mention was due to changing demographics trends as reported by the CBO which was an aging community due to baby boomers retiring early and an increase in stay at home moms because child care tripled. The federal reserve also released a report and came to the same conclusion. But republicans continue with there misinformation.

Stimulus according to the republican taking point was it only created 1.5 million jobs. But what republicans did not tell you while using $750 billion figure there was 3 spending catogories that republicans did not want there base to know about. (1) it gave tax cuts to middle income not the upper 1% that republicans wanted middle class at a cost of $288 billion.
(2) spent $224 billion in extended unemployment benefits, education, and Healthcare.
(3) it created $275 billion in Federal contracts, grants, and low interest loans to stimulate small business. But another hidden secret by republicans is Obama made sure any corporations that except Bush TARP money by limiting bonuses to senior executives. The republicans were furious with this part. But before the stimulus money started to be spent we were started to lose 850,000 Jods bs per month which nobody could fore see. So it did not meet the goal of cutting the unemployment rate to 7.5 %.
But the republican misinformation game continued. They tell you ARRA would stimulate the GDP by 1.4% to 3.8% that year but they did not mean growth would be 1.4% to 3.8% because as previously stated which was unfor seen the economy contracted by an additional 2.8% in 2009 under the Bush budget and recession. But it meant the economy would be much better even if we remained in the Bush recession but all total in 2009 the economy contracted by 5.4% not 3% as had been anticipated when the stimulus was formulated. But the stimulus accomplished what it was supposed to by softening the recession, not raise further doubt on the US debt which kept this country out of a depression.
So let's take a look back at Obamas 1st year strapped with the final Bush Budget and a major recession in 2008. (ECONOMY CONTRACTED BY 5.4%) (DOW FELL 6,595 POINTS) on March 5th 2009 by the end of the of the 4th Quarter of 2009 the GDP rose to 10,428 points by 2010 economy expanded by 2.5%. This bill did slow the recession but what republicans will not tell you the bill was meant to slow the recession it was never meant to take take us out of the recession. It did prevent a depression according to many financial managers. Per the CBO which republicans hide from there base and kept them ignorant to facts the stimulus package did inspire confidence needed to turn the economy around. But Republicans never tell you Obama requested an additional $190 billion more in fiscal stimulus which by all accounts would have taken us out of the recession sooner but republicans wanted to slow it down to create negative facts about a Obama stimulus.
So unknown to right wing OPP what was the stimulus package used for. If you ask a right wing Bogger on Opp he will tell you $750 billion on shovel ready jobs and only created 1.5 millions jobs. That what republicans told them and that's what they believe. So per the CBO let's take a factual looks k at the stimulus Spending.

Obama tax rebate encouraged growth
Small business loans, helped create jobs by increasing lending thru community banks and reduced capital gains tax for small investors.
Public works construction. But republicans hide from real facts about the stimulus they have been for 8 years. Till this day they still deny that the stimulus slowed the Bush recession.

What the stimulus actually did do.
Immediate relief for families. It stimulated demand by redirecting $260 billion in federal funding that families received.

Tax credits, tax cuts, and unemployment benefits delivered in the first year to inject spending and create private sector growth. Is that shovel ready (NO) it worked just lost k at the stock market. It worked

Cut taxes by $400 for individuals and $800 for families. Is this shovel ready (no) but it worked

A $250 direct payment for each recipient of SS, Vet. Pensions, and SSI benefits. Is that shovel ready no but it worked

$70 billion to extend AMT tax shelters

Greater Access to child tax credit for the working poor, expanded earned income tax credits families with more than 3 children.

An $8,000 tax credit for 1st time homebuyers in 2009 it worked so well to help the housing market Obama extended it through April of 2010. The republicans had a fit of anger. Is this shovel ready no but it worked.

Deductions on New car purchases in 2009 is this shovel bel ready no it worked.

Unemployment benefits extended

$46 billion for transportation and Mass transit projects this was shovel ready.

$31 billion to modernize Federal Buildings this was shovel ready.

$6 billion in water projects

$17 billion in renewable energy tax cuts

$5 billion in weatherizing homes

$24 billion to subsidize 65% of Cobra premiums for a max of 9 months. But republicans hate healthcare for those in need.

$24 billion in matching funds for two years to help states pay for Medicaid needs. Did red state governors ever mention this.

$10 billion to national institutes for health not a republican priority

$17 billion to modernizehealth information technology systems.

$54 billion to school districts and stars to prevent teacher layoffs and education programs.

$21 billion for school facilities, modernization, and Construction.

$17 billion to boost PELL grants

$20 billion for Head Start

$12 billion for in special Ed programs, job training for disabled.

$10 billion to mordenize science facilities including Job training and research just bs to investigate disease cures.
$4 billion to expand broadband to rural areas
$4 billion for Physics and science research
Allowing tax deductions for new machinery and equipment up to $240,000
Capital gains tax cuts for small business investment
Tax credits for small business that hire little nH term unemployed, veterans, or students

The stimulus success is in the numbers what republicans failed to tell you is the recession ended 3 months after the majority of funds were in circulation. Private sector job growth took hold, economic growth improved from a horrifying reduction of Of 5.4% in the first quarter of 2009 to growing by 1.3% by Q3 in 2009. Instead of losing 830,000 jobs a month the economy added 2.4 million private sector jobs and saved 1.7 million government jobs in the first 18 months after the stimulus was passed. (HAS ANY REPUBLICANS MENTIONED THAT)
But directly related to the stimulus was 1.5 million jobs created over 3 million jobs saved and as intended the private sector job growth grew and saved this country from a depression.

The ACA (Obamacare)
How republicans attacked this program and what republicans are so afraid of that this program is working as intended. According to the CBO it is estimated by 2020 the ACA will cut the deficit by $285 billion per year. That's why Republicans need to repeal they know it's working and have painted themselves into a corner with all there negativity and and lies.

Here is the CBO reasoning
So many people in this country ((32 million) who had not been insured had finally entered into the market and were getting preventive care, these patients finally getting care for problems such as blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, and other conditions that in most cases could have been prevented with normal checkups are finally getting care and using the the healthcare system was the major cause of raising premiums but overtime those new patients in the system will shake out and premium rates will start to drop.so along with the mandate requiring everyone to have health insurance premiums will begin to drop according to the CBO. So now the Republicans stand behind this toothless EO by Trump he signed it will knock sick people from getting healthcare and the number of people being insured and the wasted effects of of many that entered the system drops the premiums and the republicans will take the credit.
This is all part of the republican distortion field and how the right wing is filled with lies and misinformation. The Republicans will have nothing to do with the drop in the premiums but in true republican fashion they will take the credit for an absolute toothless EO.

The Trump/Republican theory to lower premiums is knock sick people off.

So will the right wing ever give Obama credit no but historians will decide over time and Obama will be one of the best.
Obama was a very successful president but Republic... (show quote)


All of the above a lie. Posted by a liar!

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Apr 20, 2017 22:01:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Is that suppose to be a joke. Why are you against this guy releasing his taxes every president does it.


He has no legal requirement to release his taxes and they are none of your busy or ine or anyone else's....

I want to see yours, send me a copy ok??

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Apr 20, 2017 22:08:22   #
Airforceone
 
lindajoy wrote:
Nailed it!!!! Thank You....


You keep saying this what did he destroy

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Apr 20, 2017 22:09:27   #
Airforceone
 
Kazudy wrote:
You are a prime example of what a mind numb,Kool-Aid drinking,can't see the light pinko commie is. He put us in so much debt that our children and gran children will have a hard time paying off. He like any company that spends more then it takes in,gets in deep dark doo doo. He showed the world what a coward he is,by drawing a line NOT TO BE CROSSED,then ran like a scared little girl when it was crossed. Obama IS a gay rights,pro abortion,take from the working class to give to people that refuse to work. And those are the reason you love him,he is your brother in politics.
You are a prime example of what a mind numb,Kool-A... (show quote)


What part of that debt was directly attributed to Obama

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Apr 20, 2017 22:10:28   #
Airforceone
 
America Only wrote:
All of the above a lie. Posted by a liar!


It was all facts per the BLS the GAO federal reserve.

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Apr 20, 2017 22:12:25   #
Airforceone
 
lindajoy wrote:
He has no legal requirement to release his taxes and they are none of your busy or ine or anyone else's....

I want to see yours, send me a copy ok??


You actually don't care where Donald Trumps debt is. You don't care that Donald Trump owes bank of China $350 million

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Apr 20, 2017 22:46:36   #
Mikeyavelli
 
tdsrnest wrote:
You actually don't care where Donald Trumps debt is. You don't care that Donald Trump owes bank of China $350 million


Have China come and get it.
That's a business blunder on china's part, if indeed it's true.
But China is bowing to Trump like obama bowed to his Muslims. I wonder if obama's back has healed from the bows he took submissively to anyone wearing a towel on his greasy head.
Guess it has, as obama is cavorting on a yacht with 30 male writers and Oprah Winfrey safely out of jurisdiction. Obama loved to lead from behind...

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Apr 21, 2017 08:05:16   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
tdsrnest wrote:
You keep saying this what did he destroy


What didn't he destroy??

We have had this discussion before right along with everything else posted by people, come on td~~I'm not going
to reiterate it again~ its simply not worth it...Nothing changes .............

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Apr 21, 2017 13:03:53   #
Airforceone
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Have China come and get it.
That's a business blunder on china's part, if indeed it's true.
But China is bowing to Trump like obama bowed to his Muslims. I wonder if obama's back has healed from the bows he took submissively to anyone wearing a towel on his greasy head.
Guess it has, as obama is cavorting on a yacht with 30 male writers and Oprah Winfrey safely out of jurisdiction. Obama loved to lead from behind...


Tell China come and get it they will and they will take his casino along with it. So that's what you call a foolish statement. So if you borrow money to buy and House just say I am not paying so come and get it. This is a typical Trump supporter screw you come and get it. Wow

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Apr 21, 2017 13:39:03   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Yep, unlike the great obama, Trump isn't about to fork over billions to anyone like obama did by clandestinely shipping billions to his pals in Iran.
All the obama deals are coming back.
Obama's mission was to weaken America and he succeeded. That's why Trump is president today.

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