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Mar 26, 2017 13:59:44   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Don't play with grown folks son. Go watch the power rangers before you get your seat warmed!


The last time I tangled with your type,there was about fifteen of you jumping on and I have eye witness account on me Knocking out five of you . Now I carry a unjumping tool.For your type.

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Mar 26, 2017 14:01:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Trump should just allow States to provide their own healthcare plans. That is the way our country was designed to run. States do their own thing, within limits. They experiment, to see what really works. Then others can duplicate what works. The Federal Government has no place in healthcare. They need to GTFO!


That's the real answer, just like Ma did.. May not have been the best plan but over time, as you said,it can be tweeked until it is where they want it..

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Mar 26, 2017 14:03:55   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
reconreb wrote:
it has a twin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are the most intelligent people they know !


Just the money on their make up must be a constant tax on their welfare check's.

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Mar 26, 2017 14:11:23   #
Progressive One
 
Trump’s loss is good medicine
DR. JONATHAN LoPRESTI, right, attends to a patient at L.A. County-USC Medical Center. The Republican healthcare plan “just wasn’t very good,” he said. (Al Seib Los Angeles Times)
STEVE LOPEZ
Howard Cohen, who lives in North Hills and has Medi-Cal coverage, likes getting worked up about things, and healthcare reform gave him a nice fat target.
According to a poll, he told me by email Friday afternoon, support for Trumpcare was running at only 17%. Trump’s support, meanwhile, was about twice that, which put the president in a relatively weak position, by Cohen’s estimation.
“He cannot persuade a dog to bark,” said Cohen, who calls himself “the best political analyst you’ve never heard about.”
Cohen, who is full of ideas, had one for House Republicans who wouldn’t sign on to Trumpcare because it wasn’t draconian enough.
“In a cost-benefit analysis, they’re better off rounding up and shooting the poor and infirm,” said Cohen.
I hope they pay Cohen an appropriate fee if they follow his advice, but for now, it doesn’t look as if there’s much of a plan after the remarkable belly-flop Trump took on Friday.
You know the back story, of course.
“You will end up with great healthcare for a fraction of the price and that will take place immediately after we go in,” Trump promised in one of his stump speeches on the campaign trail.
But he wasn’t done. He added three more words for emphasis.
“Immediately!”
“Fast!”
“Quick!”
He said that in Las Vegas, in February 2016, and I point out the date to set up a question.
In the year that followed, might it have been prudent for Trump to actually come up with a reform plan? Might it have been worth the time of Republican leaders to do the same during years of bashing Obamacare and staking their careers on a vow to get rid of it?
Instead they produced a dud of a bill. Doctors didn’t like it. Nurses didn’t like it. The AARP was one of the biggest critics, because some seniors would have taken a beating.
“It’s horrific,” Los Angeles Dr. Lynn Goodloe told me Thursday when I asked what she thought of the impact on mental health care.
Goodloe is co-founder of the urban Los Angeles chapter of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, and she has a son who is severely mentally ill.
Like so many families dealing with mental illness, the Goodloes have been through hell. But under Obamacare, mental health coverage was listed as one of 10 essential health benefits insurers had to provide. Goodloe said the mental health system still has plenty of room for improvement, but that was a step in the right direction and cause for celebration.
For the so-called Freedom Caucus of the Republican House, it was a step in the wrong direction, and cause for rebellion. The freedom fighters couldn’t stomach the other essential benefits, either, which include coverage for emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and newborn care, prescription drugs, laboratory services, chronic disease management and pediatric services.
You know, the kinds of things that are covered in civilized, humane societies.
I met a woman two weeks ago outside L.A. County-USC Medical Center, where I was reporting on the expected effect of Medi-Cal cuts in the reform bill. She told me she was a Medi-Cal patient, with physical and mental health issues, but she wasn’t too worried about losing her coverage.
Why not? I asked.
Because, she said, she intended to commit suicide anyway.
She looked at me and said not to worry, then pointed to a tattoo on her right arm.
It said, “Not Today.”
Then she smiled and walked away.
“That’s a shame,” said Roxanne Campbell, who was in a medical wheeler/walker and overheard the conversation.
Campbell said she was a court reporter who took ill and has had three strokes. Like so many others who can’t afford health insurance, for her Medi-Cal and the services of a great public hospital like County-USC are a lifesaver, literally.
I had gone to County-USC to shadow Dr. Jonathan LoPresti, who’s been there for 36 years. The Congressional Budget Office had said Trumpcare would leave millions of people without insurance, while others would pay more for less care. LoPresti had contacted me to say the result would be devastating, with people avoiding healthcare until they were so sick they went to the emergency room.
The failure of Trumpcare was good news Friday at County-USC.
“The plan just wasn’t very good,” said LoPresti. “There’d be higher premiums, less healthcare, and people wouldn’t come in because they’d have to pay too much out of pocket. They would have delayed what we consider preventive and routine care.”
I’m not sure Trumpcare’s flop was the worst thing that could have happened to the president. What if the House had given thumbs up?
After months of promising better and cheaper healthcare, how was Trump going to face the millions of people who got stiffed, many of whom believed him?
As it was, the president smugly claimed that he didn’t lose on Friday, nor did the Republicans who crafted the bill.
The real losers, he said, were the Democrats. Namely New York Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, because you knew Trump had to blame someone from California.
It’s not as if Obamacare is perfect, by the way. While there were millions of winners, a lot of people ended up with higher premiums or fewer healthcare options or both. A man of humility might have said we should try to improve on the existing plan, but on Friday Trump said nothing can be done, so he intended to stand by and watch it explode.
We are not so cynical as that in California, where several million people got health insurance under the Medicaid expansion. That’s expensive, but it was both a moral choice as well as a dollars-and-sense consideration.
“Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated,” Trump said a few weeks ago, when he first sensed he was writing a sequel, the “Art of the Debacle.”
We did. We knew it even when Trump gloated, after his election victory, that Obamacare was history.
“It will be repealed and replaced,” he said, cocksure as a man can be. “And it’ll be great healthcare for much less money. So it’ll be better healthcare, much better, for less money. Not a bad combination.”
steve.lopez@latimes.com
Twitter: @LATstevelopez

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Mar 26, 2017 14:19:21   #
Cool Breeze
 
Loki wrote:
You are the one playing with grown folks. Mostly male, with their genitals exposed.


Your breakfast sir! You must be famished! Enjoy comrade!



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Mar 26, 2017 14:48:40   #
Progressive One
 
That eggs shit made me damn near spit up my brew....watching Meet The Press with the dysfunctional ass Republicans trying to put a logical spin on their Political mishaps.....trump basically said I could give a fk less...then the little "ObamaCare will explode" comment....he's about a very simplistic bastard just like his disgruntled ass bigoted followers....ever seen people who win and are still miserable and hateful and spiteful? They just mad because the Orange Loser got slammed on a)travel ban b)ObamaCare c)Mexico wall I can climb.........all these people's hateful racist punitive goals that if achieved would have caused misery in others not like them. Targeted policies...just like the GOP guy said about Voter ID laws targeting Blacks.....every now and then...one has a accidental moment of honesty, an aberration.....so yeah....these people were so spiteful when trump got his russian and comey assist for the Office. Now, people are celebrating his failure because of how they were....walking around calling everybody butt hurt (butts fascinate these people) and other infantile names. I look back at 2008....I was way more enthused and positive about Pres. Obama's historic win then these people are about the "swamp" they have become mired in...this Pres will spend the next days struggling...just because of the holes he's dug for himself. Loving it................

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Mar 26, 2017 14:52:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Progressive One wrote:
That eggs shit made me damn near spit up my brew....watching Meet The Press with the dysfunctional ass Republicans trying to put a logical spin on their Political mishaps.....trump basically said I could give a fk less...then the little "ObamaCare will explode" comment....he's about a very simplistic bastard just like his disgruntled ass bigoted followers....ever seen people who win and are still miserable and hateful and spiteful? They just mad because the Orange Loser got slammed on a)travel ban b)ObamaCare c)Mexico wall I can climb.........all these people's hateful racist punitive goals that if achieved would have caused misery in others not like them. Targeted policies...just like the GOP guy said about Voter ID laws targeting Blacks.....every now and then...one has a accidental moment of honesty, an aberration.....so yeah....these people were so spiteful when trump got his russian and comey assist for the Office. Now, people are celebrating his failure because of how they were....walking around calling everybody butt hurt (butts fascinate these people) and other infantile names. I look back at 2008....I was way more enthused and positive about Pres. Obama's historic win then these people are about the "swamp" they have become mired in...this Pres will spend the next days struggling...just because of the holes he's dug for himself. Loving it................
That eggs shit made me damn near spit up my brew..... (show quote)


You found the egg thing funny. It seems you and Fetid Zephyr's thought processes are similar, a preoccupation with male genitalia that is not your own.

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Mar 26, 2017 14:53:50   #
Progressive One
 
Until these people change, they'll never experience shit but push back.....from OPP to the White House and everywhere in between.........

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Mar 26, 2017 15:34:50   #
Progressive One
 
Punches and pepper spray at pro-Trump rally
Marchers in O.C. pummel man accused of dousing organizer.
By Cindy Carcamo, Adam Elmahrek and Ben Brazil
Violence erupted at a Make America Great Again rally in Huntington Beach on Saturday after a protester opposed to President Trump allegedly doused a female organizer of the event with pepper spray, sparking a brawl that ended with several arrests.
A group of flag-waving Trump supporters tackled the man with the pepper spray, who was wearing a black mask, and started punching and kicking him, witnesses said. Several other fights also broke out between demonstrators.
The crowd chased the masked man, who jumped over a fence and started running along Pacific Coast Highway, where he was detained by California Highway Patrol officers.
A handful of counter-protesters fled the scene.
Travis Guenther, whose wife was also pepper-sprayed, said he was among those who chased the masked man and struck him with a flag that said, “Trump, Make America Great Again.”
“I hit him five times with the flag over his head,” said Guenther, who yelled at the man as he was detained by law enforcement officials.
“How is your head?” he asked the man.
“We’re not xenophobic,” Guenther said. “We’re not racist, we’re just proud Americans.”
Jennifer Sterling of Huntington Beach, the organizer who was hit with pepper spray, seemed unfazed by the incident.
“It was a quick reaction,” she said. “There was about 12 of them.”
Sterling said the rally was not simply for Trump but also a patriotic rally, celebrating first responders, military veterans, the vice president and the president. The noontime rally and march at Bolsa Chica State Beach was one of about 40 affiliated events scheduled nationwide.
The dozen or so counter-demonstrators — including one who wore a patch that said, “Only You Can Resist Racist Liars” — were overwhelmed by several hundred Trump supporters. They all refused to identify themselves, but one told a reporter that the group used pepper spray only after they were shoved and punched by their rivals.
But Steele Vaz, 17, of Huntington Beach said he saw masked people spray and punch Sterling and got in the middle to try to break it up.
“I was here to support [Trump] but I didn’t know it was going to be violent,” said Steele, who was there with his family. “They sprayed her. They were punching her.”
His mother, Arlet Vaz, said she was proud of her son’s actions.
“He did the right thing,” she said. “He’ll defend anybody.”
Vaz said this won’t stop the family from attending more pro-Trump rallies.
“There is even more reason to go,” she said.
Capt. Kevin Pearsall of California State Parks said six people were originally detained but only four were arrested. He said three men were arrested on suspicion of illegal use of a Taser, and one woman was arrested on suspicion of assault and battery. None of their names were immediately released.
Pearsall said all of those arrested were counter-demonstrators.
A separate pro-Trump rally was held Saturday in Hollywood without incident. About 100 people attended the more festive affair, which included music and dancing.
They blamed the media and an evil “globalist” agenda pushed by liberal elites for casting them as bigots.
Elsa Aldeguer, a Latina who said she was head of the Latino Coalition of Los Angeles, had her 9-year-old son speak to the crowd.
The child railed against the mainstream media.
“The media only says bad things about Trump. They don’t say the good things about Trump,” the boy said to an eruption of cheers.
Others said they were proud of their peaceful event and pointed to the group’s diversity as proof that they are not racists.
“We’re not here to fight,” said Daniel, a Cal State Northridge student from Arcadia who declined to give his last name. “We’re here to stand up for our beliefs.”
cindy.carcamo @latimes.com
adam.elmahrek @latimes.com
ben.brazil @latimes.com

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Mar 26, 2017 15:37:25   #
Progressive One
 
Loki wrote:
You found the egg thing funny. It seems you and Fetid Zephyr's thought processes are similar, a preoccupation with male genitalia that is not your own.


I see you need to be reminded of the various preoccupations of your fellow toe-tapping conservatives.....do you need me to post a running list to inform/remind you?

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Mar 26, 2017 15:48:07   #
Cool Breeze
 
Progressive One wrote:
That eggs shit made me damn near spit up my brew....watching Meet The Press with the dysfunctional ass Republicans trying to put a logical spin on their Political mishaps.....trump basically said I could give a fk less...then the little "ObamaCare will explode" comment....he's about a very simplistic bastard just like his disgruntled ass bigoted followers....ever seen people who win and are still miserable and hateful and spiteful? They just mad because the Orange Loser got slammed on a)travel ban b)ObamaCare c)Mexico wall I can climb.........all these people's hateful racist punitive goals that if achieved would have caused misery in others not like them. Targeted policies...just like the GOP guy said about Voter ID laws targeting Blacks.....every now and then...one has a accidental moment of honesty, an aberration.....so yeah....these people were so spiteful when trump got his russian and comey assist for the Office. Now, people are celebrating his failure because of how they were....walking around calling everybody butt hurt (butts fascinate these people) and other infantile names. I look back at 2008....I was way more enthused and positive about Pres. Obama's historic win then these people are about the "swamp" they have become mired in...this Pres will spend the next days struggling...just because of the holes he's dug for himself. Loving it................
That eggs shit made me damn near spit up my brew..... (show quote)


I've been warned that I better STFU by those who claim to be patriots. I love it!

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Mar 26, 2017 15:55:02   #
Cool Breeze
 
Progressive One wrote:
I see you need to be reminded of the various preoccupations of your fellow toe-tapping conservatives.....do you need me to post a running list to inform/remind you?


Pay Loco no mind! He is suffering from a serious medical condition! Hey Loco!



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Mar 26, 2017 15:59:34   #
Progressive One
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Pay Loco no mind! He is suffering from a serious medical condition! Hey Loco!


Yeah...he comes across as a grumpy fart whose old lady picks at him....so he has to go find an emotional whipping boy in order to preserve his own little bit of sanity....I don't take none of them serious........

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Mar 26, 2017 17:00:56   #
Nyla
 
You, the so called part of the human race are doing just what the commie leaders on left or right( to those whom it applys) are doing just what they want you to do because they wont have to lift a hand to wipe you out. Swallow the bait and kill each other while the real enemy will finish it off !!

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Mar 26, 2017 17:41:01   #
Cool Breeze
 
byronglimish wrote:
The last time I tangled with your type,there was about fifteen of you jumping on and I have eye witness account on me Knocking out five of you . Now I carry a unjumping tool.For your type.


Did Mommy buy you a Play Station 3 to live out your fantasy?

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