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To Establish a Universal Health Care System in the USA
Mar 22, 2017 10:21:51   #
Alber
 
In early January, then-president-elect Trump said, "They [Democrats] own it right now. So the easiest thing would be to let it (Obama Care) implode in 2017, and believe me: we'd get pretty much whatever we wanted."

It is important the repeal of Obama Care and its costly regulations but also it is necessary to move the American health care system in a patient-centered direction, so any measure taken in this moment must be transitory with the intention of establishing in a near future, two years at the most, a Universal Health Care System with nothing to do with health insurance. It is necessary to find a new way of health care financing, because it is important for everybody. Health care financing must be taken away from the insurance companies creating organizations to work on behalf of the interest of the people and conducted by the own people, making its functions more close to their knowledge. Neither right nor left, non-political and non-profit associations with autonomy, regulated by the law, taking on account, with the help of the American Medical Association, the reasonable and decorous earnings of those professionals and workers that labor on the field of health, procuring by the means of the law the "goodwill" of the enterprises that make the medicines. The infrastructure to accomplish this goal exist, there is no need of any investment, just to establish the form of payment for the use or acquisition of the existing installations by this associations to the owners and how to develop new installations in the future.
We must study the systems of other countries (The United Kingdom, Italy, France, Sweden, Spain, etc.). To study do not means to copy, but to learn of others experiences. There is to much red tape to get a good attention with the mediation of a purveyor of insurance and even you do not receive proper attention, because if you need a specialist, you will not have access to this professional if there is not one in your area that is under payment by the insurance company in which you have a plan. Besides what you pay for insurance you must pay and amount for every visit or specialized treatment and for the medicine. In the aforesaid countries you pay a tax but you do not have to pay when you need medical attention or other treatment and the medicine is subsidized.
It could be created a universal health system without any intermediary (insurance companies), affordable for everybody, taking on account the persons of low income. The USA is the first country in the world and it is a shame that it is the number 37 in this field as says the UN, ranking with Cuba that is number 39, a country where its inhabitants have a miserable life.

We could create non-profit associations in every county endorsed by the State and Federal governments, with a budget of both, taking on account an annual quota per capita for the number of associates at the beginning of each year, with the payment of a monthly quota by each associate, equal for all associates including children, collectable through the payroll as the taxes with the number of the social security.
Eluding the monopoly of the service and trying to develop the competition among this associations it could be created two or three in each county. These associations would have hospitals and dispensaries for external attention under their control with dental care and other services not included in the insurance actually and the medicine could be subsidized. These associations would be supervised by an Agency in every State and a Federal Agency in the nation, and both of them at their level, would inspect periodically all their functions, technical and of the economy. There was an experience of this mutual system in Cuba before the communist government expropriated all de hospitals and dispensaries of this associations and the system was taken in account by the Constitution of this country of 1940, one of the most advanced in the world in that moment.
It is the same that Mr. Trump wants to do with the education, a budget for each student, so a budget for each person's health. In this moment the Obama Care Insurance Market, taking the amount of money from the taxes, pays to Florida Blue Insurance Company for a man 74 years old, 770 USD monthly and if he needs the service of a specialist, he has to pay, from his pocket, an amount for each visit or for any treatment prescribed and for the medicine.
The USA has 324 millions of inhabitants, if for each inhabitant this program received a part (could be one half) of the minimum salary established for one day (eight hours) of work as a monthly quota and the Federal and States governments contribute with an annual quota per person (taken from the taxes), there would be an appropriated financing of health care, receiving much less money from the taxes that Obama Care do actually. There would be a great savings, because there would be no profit and the salaries of the health professionals, of the administration (including all non professional workers) and of the board of directors of these associations, would be no more than a low % of the profit, for those with actual investments in the health care business and for the insurance companies. So, the decrease of the expenses and the decrease of the amount of the profits would help to pay the mortgage for the acquisition of the existing installations and would reduce the income necessity for health care in comparison with this moment, what would make possible a decrease of the amount of tax taken actually by Obama Care, making affordable the maintenance of a Universal Health Care System.

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Mar 22, 2017 10:49:17   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Alber wrote:
In early January, then-president-elect Trump said, "They [Democrats] own it right now. So the easiest thing would be to let it (Obama Care) implode in 2017, and believe me: we'd get pretty much whatever we wanted."

It is important the repeal of Obama Care and its costly regulations but also it is necessary to move the American health care system in a patient-centered direction, so any measure taken in this moment must be transitory with the intention of establishing in a near future, two years at the most, a Universal Health Care System with nothing to do with health insurance. It is necessary to find a new way of health care financing, because it is important for everybody. Health care financing must be taken away from the insurance companies creating organizations to work on behalf of the interest of the people and conducted by the own people, making its functions more close to their knowledge. Neither right nor left, non-political and non-profit associations with autonomy, regulated by the law, taking on account, with the help of the American Medical Association, the reasonable and decorous earnings of those professionals and workers that labor on the field of health, procuring by the means of the law the "goodwill" of the enterprises that make the medicines. The infrastructure to accomplish this goal exist, there is no need of any investment, just to establish the form of payment for the use or acquisition of the existing installations by this associations to the owners and how to develop new installations in the future.
We must study the systems of other countries (The United Kingdom, Italy, France, Sweden, Spain, etc.). To study do not means to copy, but to learn of others experiences. There is to much red tape to get a good attention with the mediation of a purveyor of insurance and even you do not receive proper attention, because if you need a specialist, you will not have access to this professional if there is not one in your area that is under payment by the insurance company in which you have a plan. Besides what you pay for insurance you must pay and amount for every visit or specialized treatment and for the medicine. In the aforesaid countries you pay a tax but you do not have to pay when you need medical attention or other treatment and the medicine is subsidized.
It could be created a universal health system without any intermediary (insurance companies), affordable for everybody, taking on account the persons of low income. The USA is the first country in the world and it is a shame that it is the number 37 in this field as says the UN, ranking with Cuba that is number 39, a country where its inhabitants have a miserable life.

We could create non-profit associations in every county endorsed by the State and Federal governments, with a budget of both, taking on account an annual quota per capita for the number of associates at the beginning of each year, with the payment of a monthly quota by each associate, equal for all associates including children, collectable through the payroll as the taxes with the number of the social security.
Eluding the monopoly of the service and trying to develop the competition among this associations it could be created two or three in each county. These associations would have hospitals and dispensaries for external attention under their control with dental care and other services not included in the insurance actually and the medicine could be subsidized. These associations would be supervised by an Agency in every State and a Federal Agency in the nation, and both of them at their level, would inspect periodically all their functions, technical and of the economy. There was an experience of this mutual system in Cuba before the communist government expropriated all de hospitals and dispensaries of this associations and the system was taken in account by the Constitution of this country of 1940, one of the most advanced in the world in that moment.
It is the same that Mr. Trump wants to do with the education, a budget for each student, so a budget for each person's health. In this moment the Obama Care Insurance Market, taking the amount of money from the taxes, pays to Florida Blue Insurance Company for a man 74 years old, 770 USD monthly and if he needs the service of a specialist, he has to pay, from his pocket, an amount for each visit or for any treatment prescribed and for the medicine.
The USA has 324 millions of inhabitants, if for each inhabitant this program received a part (could be one half) of the minimum salary established for one day (eight hours) of work as a monthly quota and the Federal and States governments contribute with an annual quota per person (taken from the taxes), there would be an appropriated financing of health care, receiving much less money from the taxes that Obama Care do actually. There would be a great savings, because there would be no profit and the salaries of the health professionals, of the administration (including all non professional workers) and of the board of directors of these associations, would be no more than a low % of the profit, for those with actual investments in the health care business and for the insurance companies. So, the decrease of the expenses and the decrease of the amount of the profits would help to pay the mortgage for the acquisition of the existing installations and would reduce the income necessity for health care in comparison with this moment, what would make possible a decrease of the amount of tax taken actually by Obama Care, making affordable the maintenance of a Universal Health Care System.
In early January, then-president-elect Trump said,... (show quote)


Moron!



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Mar 22, 2017 14:46:07   #
Alber
 
Zombiefarmer: Moron!
Thank you very much for your answer. Each one gives what he has. One image is more than a thousand words and it demonstrate what you want to say. I must understand that the image is a radiography of your head as a zombie, showing what is left of your brain. So, being a zombie-farmer, as you call yourself, according to voodoo you are capable of automatic movement but your brain has turned to excrement and you are used by your sorcerer master as a farmer, you want to say that you are a moron (mentally retarded person) for being dead, as a zombie. You do not have an opinion in one way or another. It is surprising that you are able to write here in OPP and that your sorcerer master let you use a computer.

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Mar 22, 2017 15:18:59   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Alber wrote:
Zombiefarmer: Moron!
Thank you very much for your answer. Each one gives what he has. One image is more than a thousand words and it demonstrate what you want to say. I must understand that the image is a radiography of your head as a zombie, showing what is left of your brain. So, being a zombie-farmer, as you call yourself, according to voodoo you are capable of automatic movement but your brain has turned to excrement and you are used by your sorcerer master as a farmer, you want to say that you are a moron (mentally retarded person) for being dead, as a zombie. You do not have an opinion in one way or another. It is surprising that you are able to write here in OPP and that your sorcerer master let you use a computer.
Zombiefarmer: Moron! br Thank you very much for yo... (show quote)


I think I will stand by my characterization of you as the moron, since you are a central planning commie. Quite a few thirteen year old girls like you exhibit that characteristic.

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Mar 23, 2017 06:10:17   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Why don't you do it to your own field, if you have one?

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Mar 23, 2017 13:40:00   #
Alber
 
Zombiefarmer23 ......you are a central planning commie.

Being you a zombie, I appreciate you do not understand what i wrote. You do not know what is central planning or what is really communism. Maybe, you are a stockholder of an insurance company or of a company with investment in the field of health care, if so, I understand your opposition. But I doubt it; a person who identified himself as a zombie is a follower of the zombie fictions of Hollywood. Thus, using your own words: "Quite a few thirteen year old girls like you exhibit that characteristic." I tell you, as an old man I have become a conservative, when I was younger I was at the center of the political spectrum, as a good pragmatic.

crazylibertarian.......Why don't you do it to your own field, if you have one?

My field of work was the Economy and after more than fifty years working on it I am retired. I went to the university and got a Doctor degree in my field. I know that it is difficult to accept a new idea. What I am proposing is the same as a stock company or as an insurance company, but suppressing the benefit in order to decrease the income necessary to maintain a cheap universal health care. Nobody is going to work for free, there would be reasonable and decorous earnings for those professionals and workers that labor on the field of health care and a decrease of the taxes.

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