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I tried to find some mention of explosives in all of Newton's Laws. I also looked into the laws of physics to see if explosives were a factor in any of the mathematical formulas. I found a lot of neat stuff, like mass, weight, area, volume, motion, momentum, velocity, acceleration, scalar and vector quantities, pressure, temperature, thermodynamics, potential and kinetic energy, conservation of energy, elasticity, and a bunch of other cool things, but not a word about explosives. Weird, huh? Seems that if Newton and the laws of physics agree that explosives were a factor in building collapses, they would mention it somewhere.

Funny thing is, demolition engineers rely on the laws of physics to do a job where explosives are merely the triggering event. They certainly never plant explosives on every floor of a building to bring it down. The redundancy of such a wild-assed idea is unnecessary and it is cost prohibitive.

Let's see, demo engineers have estimated that to bring down one WTC tower in accordance with the truther theory that explosives were planted on every floor it would require 150 tons of explosives.

Dynamite, being the cheapest and most readily available explosive, costs $25 per pound. 150 tons is 300,000 pounds. So, $7.5 million bucks times two ($15 million) would buy enough dynamite to fulfill the truthers' dreams. (We're not accounting for the load in WTC 7, mainly because the truthers have never given us a figure). You start getting into the higher grades of explosives like TNT, PETN, C4, or Semtex, the cost goes up. But, what the hell, those damned Zionists own all the banks, the media, the politicians, and everything else. They probably own all the explosive manufacturers too, and we know that the Zionists ripped off the DoD to the tune of $2.3 trillion. So what's $15 million? Chump change, right?

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OK, ignoramus, let's take this a step at a time.

First, I didn't plagiarize a thing. I merely posted some info and did not claim authorship. You do understand, don't you, that plagiarism is stealing someone elses' work and claiming it as your own?

Second, you are the only one obsessed with the fallacy that real identities are required for any information to be credible, and, according to you, even thoroughly researched information that can be verified through other sources has no credibility if there is no name on it. You don't even realize how childish that is.

Third, Jennings gave a very brief account of what he thought happened. Unless the man was omniscient, he could not have had a clue what was happening beyond the confines of the room or stairwell he was in. This is true for anyone. And, in high stress experiences, situational awareness can easily be further restricted, especially when inside a building full of smoke and dust. Been there, done that. When you go into a burning building and are surrounded by smoke and heat, and even flames, the world you are aware of is five feet in diameter.

Fourth, the "explosion" Jennings heard was the impact of North Tower debris hitting WTC 7.

And fifth, the man accompanying Jennings in that brief interview was not a firefighter, he was a bystander who saw Jennings and Hess at the 8th floor window calling for help.

For a guy who claims to be a photographer, your powers of perception are virtually non-existent.

emarine

Sure I do putz...but it seems that you're too clueless to understand... Kinetic energy is explosive too ... your picture proves this... Its just slower & quieter than chemical explosives which well exceeds the sound barrier upon detonation ... like I keep saying... you troofers are way too slow to sell a thinking person controlled demolition with high explosives... you should spend your time learning rather than obsessing about my identity ... you're starting to sound like a creepy old Nazi stalker...putz

payne1000

When you post another author's work without giving them credit, you are taking credit for that work. You are plagiarizing. How much of an effort does it take to give credit? You deliberately didn't post the author because, like yourself, the author wouldn't put his name on his lies. You could have linked the source, however.

Jennings was trapped in WTC7 by explosions before either tower fell, so it couldn't have been the North Tower which took out the stairwells.

payne1000

You're an unnamed source, emarine. How many readers here believe anyone who refuses to identify themselves?
How many readers will believe an unnamed source who repeatedly tells them not to believe what their eyes tell them?

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OK, give us the name of the photographer who took the picture you call the "smoking gun"? Or, stop plagiarizing.


Report from a March 2011 debate with Richard Gage in Boulder, CO.

Many firefighters reported seeing structural deformations of Building 7 hours before its collapse, including the top FDNY fire Chief Daniel Nigro, who stated, “I feared a collapse of Building 7, as did many on my staff. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of 7. Building 7 was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels. Fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them. For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else—as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after … WTC 7 collapsed. Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.”

In a World Trade Centre Task Force Interview, FDNY Lieutenant Rudolph Weindler said: “So we left 7 World Trade Center… and Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did.”

And Deputy Chief Peter Hayden said: “We saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that, and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse.”

Another Building 7 eyewitness was Michael Hess, Mayor Giuliani’s chief lawyer. He and fellow city worker Barry Jennings got caught in Building 7 and barely escaped with their lives. Michael Hess said that he heard and felt the building shake like an earthquake for 5–10 seconds prior to the collapse of either tower. But in 2007, he too changed his story, claiming in a BBC interview that he got his timing wrong and that the 10-second-long earthquake sound was most likely caused by tower debris hitting the building later in the morning. “There were no explosions. That was caused by the north half of #1 falling onto the southern half of our building.” He compared what he heard to a loud rumbling earthquake, not the staccato blasts of explosions.

emarine

So you choose to babble on Herr payne... my name has nothing to do with your lack of understanding...you're still clueless about energy no matter how many times it's explained to you..."power derived "FROM" the utilization of physical or chemical resources"... the energy release during the collapse of the WTC towers was close to 400 kilotons of TNT whether chemical explosive or Kinetic... the energy release is the same...so your pictures prove nothing...the proof is in the sound or lack of... 4000 kilotons of high explosives are very loud with fast detonations breaking the sound barrier... Kinetic energy is slower and quieter but will have the same explosive end result... all you prove is larry payne just doesn't get it ... repetitively ... this is why your a photographer & not an engineer putz...

payne engineering

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emarine

The majority of solid material outside the dust cloud is light weight aluminum trim that was covering the steel columns not structural steel... pictures can be deceiving when misrepresented ...

payne1000

Of course Michael Hess changed his story. He wanted to remain among the living.
Barry Jennings didn't change his story and died mysteriously at the age of 52.
Both Towers were still standing when the explosions trapped Jennings and Hess in WTC7:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/008/hessjenningswtc7explosiontvbroadcast

payne1000

Those who understand the strength of steel-framed skyscrapers know that no energy
would have been released in either of the Twin Towers without the use of explosives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnnjIzamnJo

payne1000

The photo below shows the remnants of the ground floor outer wall structure of the North Tower.
A 110 floors of debris would reach at least a hundred feet in height if it fell straight down.
The foot print of the North Tower appears to contain 20 ft or less of debris.

Look at the massive center core in the second photo.
Where did all that steel disappear to?

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One can only laugh at the utter stupidity of these two statements.

Apparently the only explosive demolition that has happened here took place inside your skull.

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payne1000

Denial is not rebuttal.
Insults are not rebuttal.
Cowards hide behind anonymity to post lies and libel.