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Mar 19, 2017 07:38:24   #
okie don
 
Penny,
Your a true ' Book of Knowledge '.
Thanks Lady for the ' overview' (:-))
don

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Mar 19, 2017 08:18:49   #
Cool Breeze
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What does this have to do with your question to me or my response? You are really reaching here.... and I have no idea what you are reaching for.


It has a lot to do with you. By the numbers. 1. I didn't ask you for your dissertation of Church history 2. You answered a question alright but not the question you were asked. 3. Do you often go off on tangents on debates and feign ignorance when you realize you're misinformed?

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Mar 19, 2017 09:45:27   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Babylon had a daughter! Could it be America? http://watchmanscry.com/?p=5139


It could very well be Mr. breeze . If New York City is not directly referred to it could very well be the daughter of all corruption and abominations which has been taking down our country. And when God judges all evil this country will be judged and may all good people be spared . If I may be the only person to don the armor of God to protect this nation also allow me to be the first to extend the olive branch . I want to apologize for anything I said to you in the past that was less than positive nature . We have a load hidden forces to divide the people of this great nation and that is our biggest enemy . Following the path of truth is not an easy journey . May we walk shoulder to shoulder on the path of truth and you would be my brother . There is a lot of divided dialogue on this site and may we work to find a common ground and share the truth . Texas truth command of quarters standing by ....

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Mar 19, 2017 09:52:35   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
You did ask me to be specific and I did go into detail, you may not be aware, but all our responses and comments are visible to any and all people on OPP... and in fact can be found in google searches. So, when you asked me " the Bible which is the King James Version of scripture is irreverent! Do you believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old? You can't have it both ways! Is the Bible the word of G*d? " I felt compelled to give you and other readers a thorough answer. Those questions are not just yes or no, they deserve deep consideration. I did answer your questions, clearly and succinctly. If you do not want a complete answer, then I suggest you shop around for someone who can provide you with abbreviated responses.

Cool Breeze wrote:
It has a lot to do with you. By the numbers. 1. I didn't ask you for your dissertation of Church history 2. You answered a question alright but not the question you were asked. 3. Do you often go off on tangents on debates and feign ignorance when you realize you're misinformed?

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Mar 19, 2017 09:55:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Don,

You are very welcome.... but the appreciation needs to go to my Papa who taught me to research everything!

okie don wrote:
Penny,
Your a true ' Book of Knowledge '.
Thanks Lady for the ' overview' (:-))
don

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Mar 19, 2017 10:42:18   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Pennylynn wrote:
The book of Revelations was written to 70 churches existing in 65AD, those churches no longer exist, it would seem to be arguable that the book was written for those people and pertained to those people. Second, the author, John, said the events would soon take place. That seems to rule out events to take place 2 or 3 thousand years later. Additionally, if you study the Olivet Discourse, it is clear what city is being discussed in Revelations. So, no I do not think the US or Rome, or Greece or Iran, or any modern day nation or city is the Babylon described by John.

If your point is America has declined in benevolence or has become "sinful" then yes, we have. We as a nation have forgotten a clear direction set out in 1 Timothy 5:8 "But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever." While we have become the penny bank for the world, the defenders of foreign nations, and caretakers of their weak or poor, we have severely neglected our own homes... our elderly, infirmed, hungry and needy and our own security.
The book of Revelations was written to 70 churches... (show quote)


Just wanted to say Thank You for your inspiring posts whenever writing on this topic...Your knowledge and excellent writing skill always a pleasure when shared..

Your closing paragraph absolutely correct as well!! I agree...

Thank You
Thank You...

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Mar 19, 2017 10:44:50   #
Cool Breeze
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You did ask me to be specific and I did go into detail, you may not be aware, but all our responses and comments are visible to any and all people on OPP... and in fact can be found in google searches. So, when you asked me " the Bible which is the King James Version of scripture is irreverent! Do you believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old? You can't have it both ways! Is the Bible the word of G*d? " I felt compelled to give you and other readers a thorough answer. Those questions are not just yes or no, they deserve deep consideration. I did answer your questions, clearly and succinctly. If you do not want a complete answer, then I suggest you shop around for someone who can provide you with abbreviated responses.
You did ask me to be specific and I did go into de... (show quote)


Nice Try! I asked you to be specific in identifying those people you know who aren't taking care of their families. A question you didn't answer for obvious reasons. Detailed answers is one thing drivel is something altogether different. You underestimate my intellegence and that is a mistake on your part.

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Mar 19, 2017 10:51:11   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Sons of Liberty wrote:
I believe Saudi Arabia is Mystery Babylon as well. I maybe wrong, but I believe it was said that God would destroy the world where it began. The Garden Of Eden was in Iraq, so the ME is where Revelations will take place...IMHO!



I agree with all who recognize, Saudi Arabia as the "mystery Babylon"..

I've read the entire Bible twice and must admit Revelations is so very hard for me to understand or completely digest as well.. I've read other books or literature in general and every time I do I am more confused than finding snswers..

A good thread for me.. "learning"..

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Mar 19, 2017 10:55:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
okie don wrote:
I never have been much of a Bible student, matter of fact
have never read the entire Bible- to be completely honest.
never could understand what I read.
Bow, in the Autumn of my lifespan have been trying to play
" catch up' and understand what it's all about.

To me, it's a book that contains:
1. History;
2. A way to live; and
3. Prophesy as to what's coming .

I bought the GENEVA BIBLE published in 1599, the one the Pilgrims had
when they came to American on the Mayflower.
My kids got me the new one out by David Barton called " The Founders Bible" published in 2012.
It's thick, a full 2 inches and discusses our ' founders'...
A Lot of history in it for anyone wanted information on our forefathers...
'Ziggy' put an interesting post up on Catholicism being " Mystery Babylon ".

I kinda wonder if we aren't, running around the world with our weapons shouting:
" believe in Democracy",-- killing people with our Drones, doing so with some dude
running a computer here in the States like a ' video game'...
My prime question is Q. Who is MYSTERY BABYLON ????
I never have been much of a Bible student, matter ... (show quote)


My Grandmother had the Geneva Bible and upon her passing my Grandfather gave it to me...

To me it's historical accounts in comparison to the King James Version are striking..saying much the same it's all in how it's written that makes it so much more..

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Mar 19, 2017 10:57:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Texas Truth wrote:
It could very well be Mr. breeze . If New York City is not directly referred to it could very well be the daughter of all corruption and abominations which has been taking down our country. And when God judges all evil this country will be judged and may all good people be spared . If I may be the only person to don the armor of God to protect this nation also allow me to be the first to extend the olive branch . I want to apologize for anything I said to you in the past that was less than positive nature . We have a load hidden forces to divide the people of this great nation and that is our biggest enemy . Following the path of truth is not an easy journey . May we walk shoulder to shoulder on the path of truth and you would be my brother . There is a lot of divided dialogue on this site and may we work to find a common ground and share the truth . Texas truth command of quarters standing by ....
It could very well be Mr. breeze . If New York Cit... (show quote)



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Mar 19, 2017 11:00:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Nice Try! I asked you to be specific in identifying those people you know who aren't taking care of their families. A question you didn't answer for obvious reasons. Detailed answers is one thing drivel is something altogether different. You underestimate my intellegence and that is a mistake on your part.


Those not taking care of their families in what capacity cools??

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Mar 19, 2017 11:40:25   #
Homestead
 
ziggy88 wrote:
Researched from J. Dwight Pentecost book “Things to Come”
By Pastor Gary Boyd

I have told of the opening of the seven seals that occurs in the first half of the Great Tribulation. Then I have shown you what takes place at the blowing of the seven trumpets and the three woes that take place in the last three. This article will endeavor to show you the knowledge of the judgment of babylon, the description of the harlot and her identity, and what happens to her. So who is this great whore of Babylon?

Revelation 17 outlines the judgment of the great harlot of Babylon, the apostate religious system that exists in the the great tribulation. The system bears the characterization of a harlot Rev. 17:1-2, “And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.” It claims to be Christ’s bride but had fallen from its pure position becoming a harlot. Revelation 17: 5 states, “ And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.” Spiritual fornication in scripture has reference to adherence to a false system. Rev. 17:3 says, “ So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.” The system is a leader in political affairs and appears to be controlling the Beast system upon which it rides. The system has become very rich and powerful it tells us in Rev. 17:4, “ And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication.” The system represents a phase of the development of Christendom that was hitherto unrevealed in that it is called a “mystery.” This system has been the great persecutor of the true saints as it states in Rev. 17:6, “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” This system is a organized religion of worldwide scope in Rev. 17:15 stating, “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” In Rev. 17:16-17 it says this religious system will be destroyed by the Beast who is the world Antichrist that demands the world worship him as Christ as stated, “And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.” So as you hear from God the this false system of religion will be destroyed by the Beast, the head of the Roman coalition, so that his supremacy may not be threatened.

The Identity of the Harlot
I do not believe it too much to say that Mystery Babylon is the Holy Roman Catholic Church whose colors are scarlet & purple that killed millions in the inquisitions both true Christians & Jews stealing their possessions and wealth by calling them heretics. By using false doctrine found within Romanism directly attributed to babylonian paganism combined with Christianity Constantine declared Rome to be a Christian empire.

This Beast, the Antichrist, who was dominated by the religious harlot system directed by the false prophet, the Pope, rises up against her after he declares himself to be Christ completely destroying Rome the city on seven hills. This would give the Antichrist sole claim to be worshiped as God here on earth.

Judgment of the Beast and His Empire
3 ½ years into the Great Tribulation after he does away with the false prophet and Rome the Beast goes after the tribulation saints who have taken a stand against him and his empire. No one can eat or buy without the mark of the Beast that shows allegiance to his end time system. Revelation 18: 10, 16-18 says it all, “Standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come. And saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’

The destruction of the seat of the Beast’s power is accomplished in a divine visitation by fire in Revelation 18:8, “ Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.”

The fall of Babylon is final, absolute, and happens at the end of revelation. I believe this Babylon is a city here in America called New York City, but that is a story for another day. May God bless for reading this until the end. Maranatha…..
Researched from J. Dwight Pentecost book “Things... (show quote)


Walid Shoebat was a Muslim PLO terrorist that worked for Yasser Arafat, planting bombs in the name of Islam, trying to kill people. His bomb went off, but, he failed to kill anyone, he only did damaged to the building.

As a good Muslim, it was his job to convert his Christian wife to Islam. So he condemned the bible and demanded she convert to Islam.
His wife asked him if he ever read the bible, he said no! No good Muslim would read anything other than the Koran.

So then she asked him if it was his habit to condemn things he knew nothing about?

This stopped him short and he went to get a bible, so that he could show his wife why she was so foolish.

It took him about a year and a half to go through it. In the end he left Islam and became a Christian.

But, as an Arab, born in the Middle East, (Bethlehem) he has a much deeper understanding of the old Kingdoms, where they were and where their borders were, than most Westerners.

He has a complaint about Western Christians, in that he says that they all start with the book of Revelations which is the last book dealing with the end of days. Why? He says, "Do you Western Christians always start with the last book? How can you understand it, it you don't understand what leads up to it?"

He says that Islam makes a big deal about 260 passages in the Koran being prophetic. "Big deal," he says, "The whole book of the bible is prophetic, the whole thing, from beginning to end."

You ought to listen to what he has to say, it may shed a new light on your thinking.

Walid Shoebat - Why Islam is the Antichrist 1 of 22 (8:59)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxKMxds-P8

Walid Shoebat 2016 Prophecy Of Islam END of Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JeN5i2M62w

Walid Shoebat End Times Today - Part1
http://boldlyproclaimingchrist.wordpress.com/end-time-prophecy-videos/walid-shoebat-end-times-today/

Islam "END TIMES ALERT" Israel † Greece † Turkey † America † Αντίχριστος
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g_Xv2YhJOo&feature=player_detailpage

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Mar 19, 2017 11:52:00   #
Cool Breeze
 
lindajoy wrote:
Those not taking care of their families in what capacity cools??


Pennylynn made the statement. Ask her!



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Mar 19, 2017 13:25:58   #
ziggy88 Loc: quincy illinois 62301
 
For clarification on the Judgment of Mystery Babylon please go to my blog at: http://garyboyd2244.blogspot.com/

I have added on to my original article that was shortened because of this site. Thank you Pastor Gary Boyd

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Mar 19, 2017 13:26:36   #
ziggy88 Loc: quincy illinois 62301
 
For clarification on the Judgment of Mystery Babylon please go to my blog at: http://garyboyd2244.blogspot.com/

I have added on to my original article that was shortened because of this site. Thank you Pastor Gary Boyd

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