cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Bitch slap mommy for not wiping.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

This attitude went back to the reformation. Even Shakespear's line " Get thee to a Nunnery!" shows the prejudice as the Protestant's thought that Nuns were prostitutes for the Pope and the hierarchy of the Catholic church. As Christians were forbidden from loaning money ad getting interest lead to "Neither a borrower nor a lender be!" encapsulated the anti Semitism of the era as a Jew was free to loan at interest, so you'd be borrowing from a Jew who would be taking advantage and if you were a Christian, your money would be at risk of loss but no chance of gain, so do not lend money. Dishonest propaganda o both sides lead to the conflict and eventual oppression of Irish Catholic and the "troubles". Thus up with Michael Collins, down with the Crown, the Orange and the Green in conflict...... Yet the killing, tho brutal, was pretty light little more that 3500 in the 20th Century.

straightUp Loc: California

That still doesn't make anything I said wrong. Events in history don't change with context.


So, let me get this straight... You say that Protestant schools indoctrinated their kids to believe Catholicism was evil, and vice versa... You say that to some extent the priests of both disciplines were also involved and yet you say conflict was never a Catholic/Protestant spat?

Can you see how anyone reading this might be a little confused?


I agree. In fact, I have always recognized the contrast between the teaching of Jesus Christ and the politics of the various Churches. I have close personal friends who actually follow His teaching and they are NOT the seething haters that I see on the front-lines of these cultural divides. I am less familiar with Islam but from what I can see, there is a similar pattern. I work with some Muslims and I can see first hand how they are inspired by Islam to be respectful, charitable and responsible people. It's amazing how much these decent people from both religions actually have in common.

But that doesn't mean I don't see how others use Islam for political advantage the same way I see some people using Christianity for the same purpose. As far as I am concerned, religion becomes bullshit once it becomes a political weapon. which is why I am a secularist. I believe people should have the freedom to practice whatever religion they want as long as they don't force it on others.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

Islam states that it is more than religion, but all three branches of government too. Not to mention judge, jury and executioner. Hold the view that all this can be imposed and should be imposed by any means necessary. Moreover, non believers may be killed may be killed, their women enslaved, their property stolen at the whim of the believers in Islam.
\read www.thereligionofpeace.com

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Which one straps bombs to themselves?

straightUp Loc: California

Ireland isn't the only theater in this conflict between Christian factions resulting from the reformation. The reformation started in Germany and it resulted in quite a bit of killing there too. A few posts ago, I mentioned the English Civil War which was fought over the reformation. You are correct in saying dishonest propaganda on both sides led to the conflict but that conflict was mostly between the Irish people themselves, some who were Protestant (Orange) and some who were Catholics (Green).

The "oppression of Irish Catholics" was a separate issue that goes back to the 12th century, when the English were still Catholics themselves and the provisions of the Papal Bull Laudabiliter, issued by Adrian IV in 1155 charged the English Crown with authority over Ireland. So it was the Roman Catholic Church itself that gave Ireland to England in the first place. It's suspected that this had a lot to do with the fact that pagan Vikings were attacking Christian monasteries throughout the British Isles and English just happened to be the strongest counter Rome had at the time.

What followed was centuries of conflict between Irish liberation and English rule that often gets tangled up in conflicts between the Irish themselves, the conflict between Protestants and Catholics being the most recent.

straightUp Loc: California

Pointing to a book of lies doesn't make your lies true.

straightUp Loc: California

The courageous ones I guess.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

Watch your language, my Ancestors were Vikings! They civilized the former Roman colony and gave the Enlist the spirit they carried thru WW2, but things see to have broken down some since...maybe Brexit is a rebirth, we'll have to see.....

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Howabout I strap one on yer mother? The muslims you suck on couldn't care less about your mother. Stop guessing and get real, my retarded friend.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

He's a Mohammaden troll.

Big Bass

Perhaps you should be blaming the church, not Jesus. Even the pope is getting involved in politics, and I agree this is wrong. Also, many attendees at church are there to be seen, rather than to worship. And I agree that nobody has the right to force their religion on anybody. (I say one of two things to any Jehovah's witness who makes the mistake of coming to my front door, "I'm a hematologist," or "Can't talk now, I'm off to give blood.") But I will always respect their right to believe whatever they want.

Big Bass

It takes NO courage to be a sniveling coward.

Ricktloml

Here is a sample of what former Muslim women have to say on the subject of Islam and the Left in America-read the full article at www.frontpagemag.com/fpm225114/war-former-muslim-women-noni...

by Nonie Darwish

Former Muslim women like Wafa Sultan, Ayan Hirsi Ali and myself have been writing and speaking about the oppression of women in Islamic society for a long time now. I have written a book dedicated to connecting the dots between Islamic law and such kidnappings, rapes and other forms of oppression of women. But instead of helping our voices be heard the leftist media have ignored us, called us names, and done everything in their power to silence us. They have treated the American people like children who are told they should not be outraged about far away cultural practices--because all cultures are equal.
Advocates of cultural relativism who are brutal in judging conservative and Christian Americans, and call them slanderous names, have no problem tolerating Islamic tyranny over women and other minorities.
After 911 Americans asked, "Where are the voices of Arab Americans who condemn Islamic terrorism?" This question led a few brave former Muslim women to stand up and speak. But when we did, (at our own peril), the leftist media and academia called us "Islamophobes" and "racists." What is Islamophobic or racist about warning America about the tyranny of the barbaric religious legal system that we lived under and came to America to escape from it's vicious clutches?
Muslims have convinced the leftist elites that criticism of Islamic doctrine is a hateful phobia equal to hating all Muslim people. Students who wanted to learn the truth about Sharia and it's implications on women, jihad, the Arab Israeli conflict and terrorism, have been intimidated and forced to withdraw their invitations to former Muslim women speakers.
Not only have the Muslim Brotherhood front groups and the Left succeeded in silencing speech critical of Islam, but reports about Islamic atrocities around the world have been suppressed-until now, when one horrifying story of an Islamic crime against humanity could not be contained.
And so now, with the Nigerian kidnapping story, Islam's dirty little secret has been exposed: SHARIA LEGALIZES the taking of female hostages as sex slaves in jihad battle against non- Muslims.

This is just a small excerpt from her article-I recommend reading the entire thing. It is an undeniable example of the brutality and propaganda of both the Left in this country AND the Islamic rapists and butchers they excuse and defend

Ricktloml

Odd isn't it. These leftists demand that all Muslims not be judged by the jihadists, but condemn all Christians. That Christians are supposed to share the "good news" is somehow a moral equivalence to convert or die