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Feb 19, 2017 18:56:31   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Kickaha wrote:
Why not try to figure out a way of cross checking the voter rolls? Anyone who hasn't voted for X number of years would have their registration flagged and would be sent a notice that they need to re-register. The same could be done by cross checking death certificates and drivers license lists. It might not be perfect but it will help clean up the voter registration rolls. Then we need to require voter registration be done 2 weeks prior to an election and photo ID is needed to vote.

An honest system doesn't have to be so complicated. Banks don't have a problem identifying who you are when you take out cash, why should the election system? It's not even a government thing... the IRS doesn't have a problem identifying people to send refunds too. The only reason I can think of for all this apparent chaos is that people in the state governments WANT to play games with the ballots, especially when they know they are loosing their majority grip. So they keep things loose and chaotic.

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Feb 19, 2017 19:01:10   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
straightUp wrote:
An honest system doesn't have to be so complicated. Banks don't have a problem identifying who you are when you take out cash, why should the election system? It's not even a government thing... the IRS doesn't have a problem identifying people to send refunds too. The only reason I can think of for all this apparent chaos is that people in the state governments WANT to play games with the ballots, especially when they know they are loosing their majority grip. So they keep things loose and chaotic.
An honest system doesn't have to be so complicated... (show quote)


straightup-exactly. Simple photo ID to all eligible voters will solve the problem. However, the democrats do not
want the problem solved. It disenfranchises their party. Level the playing field and they lose most elections. America First !!!

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Feb 19, 2017 19:22:00   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
buffalo wrote:
The article came from the Horn News Editorial Team (which I credited at the bottom of the post, which I doubt your attention span allowed you to read that far down) and sited several different studies and reports of voter fraud.

I read your entire post - (not that hard to do). At the end I saw... "— The Horn editorial team". (I've never heard of them before). So I did a search and found the website... run by Red State Radio... Gee, that doesn't sound biased at all. :) Anyway, I didn't see anything about your supposed study, so that's why I responded the way I did.


buffalo wrote:

The DNC was exposed ion those LEAKED emails (not hacked by Russia) the fraud that they had committed against Sanders, but you fricking bird-brained, butt-hurt moonbats ignore that or anything else that doesn't fit your ideological narrative. Obammy even told illegals to vote.

Yeah, you're just telling the story the way you want to. I still don't see any evidence... Why not link to the study?

buffalo wrote:

Maybe Trump just wants to make sure that all votes, whether dem or repub, are legal votes.

Maybe he just wants to make sure that enough Democratic votes are taken out.

buffalo wrote:

You moonbats just don't want to be exposed so that is why you deflected the LEAKED emails as being haclked by Russia. NO evidence has ever been offered to prove that goofy assertion.

I don't think proof was part of that conspiracy theory when the right-wing bullshitters invented it. You really don't understand what fake news is do you?

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Feb 19, 2017 20:23:59   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
LG wrote:
The reason LIBERAL DEMOCRATS have bigger brains than REPUBLICANS, is because they're FULL OF SHIT. An OXFORD study shows REPUBLICANS have higher IQ's than LIBERAL DEMOCRATS. ROLLING STONE is a great source for LIBERAL DEMOCRATS, they're known to report lies, just like the article published about the rape on the campus of the University of Virginia, that was totally made up and a flat out lie.


http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/andrew-klavan-republicans-are-smarter-democrats-and-more-liberal-too
The reason LIBERAL DEMOCRATS have bigger brains th... (show quote)


A few things to point out..

1. I have NEVER been a Democrat:
Since the article you link to seems to be targeting Democrats, I thought it might be worth bringing up. (in fact I was a Republican from 1980 to 1984)

2. Republicans are more Liberal too:
That's what the article you point to actually says. I bet that doesn't actually make sense to you. Let me explain something, starting with point #3...

3. Not all Republicans are the same:
When I registered Republican I was joining my father's party. The party I associated with Reagan. That's not the Republican party I see today. For the first half of the 20th century, the Republicans WERE the liberals... the Democrats were conservative... because the Democrats were not always the same either, which brings up point #4...

4. Political Parties Change faster than Culture Does:
Which explains why people jump parties. The entire south switched from Democrat to Republican during the Nixon campaign. Look up "Dixecrats"... I'm not making this stuff up. Americans don't trust politicians, but we ARE faithful people. We put faith in our cultures. (Yes, as in plural.) That's part of what being free means. The fact that our founders were able to construct a light weight framework for a federated government is admirable as were most liberal movements during the Age of Enlightenment but that's just what it was. The American Revolution itself was a liberal idea... to replace a monarchy with a republic. Neither Republican nor Democrat existed yet. It was all Whigs and Tories. Whigs were the liberals that supported the revolution, Tories were the conservatives, loyal to the crown... Finally, point #5...

5. The Article is Telling you that Smarter People Tend to be Liberal:
When he says Republicans are more liberal he is qualifying the subset of Republicans that are... more liberal. To that subset of liberal Republicans, he is crediting smartness that exceeds even the Democrats, which precedence being set, he could filter anyway he wants.

;)

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Feb 19, 2017 20:37:13   #
LG Loc: TENNESSEE
 
straightUp wrote:
A few things to point out..

1. I have NEVER been a Democrat:
Since the article you link to seems to be targeting Democrats, I thought it might be worth bringing up. (in fact I was a Republican from 1980 to 1984)

2. Republicans are more Liberal too:
That's what the article you point to actually says. I bet that doesn't actually make sense to you. Let me explain something, starting with point #3...

3. Not all Republicans are the same:
When I registered Republican I was joining my father's party. The party I associated with Reagan. That's not the Republican party I see today. For the first half of the 20th century, the Republicans WERE the liberals... the Democrats were conservative... because the Democrats were not always the same either, which brings up point #4...

4. Political Parties Change faster than Culture Does:
Which explains why people jump parties. The entire south switched from Democrat to Republican during the Nixon campaign. Look up "Dixecrats"... I'm not making this stuff up. Americans don't trust politicians, but we ARE faithful people. We put faith in our cultures. (Yes, as in plural.) That's part of what being free means. The fact that our founders were able to construct a light weight framework for a federated government is admirable as were most liberal movements during the Age of Enlightenment but that's just what it was. The American Revolution itself was a liberal idea... to replace a monarchy with a republic. Neither Republican nor Democrat existed yet. It was all Whigs and Tories. Whigs were the liberals that supported the revolution, Tories were the conservatives, loyal to the crown... Finally, point #5...

5. The Article is Telling you that Smarter People Tend to be Liberal:
When he says Republicans are more liberal he is qualifying the subset of Republicans that are... more liberal. To that subset of liberal Republicans, he is crediting smartness that exceeds even the Democrats, which precedence being set, he could filter anyway he wants.

;)
A few things to point out.. br br 1. I have NEVER... (show quote)



You were the one that made the comment the Democrats have bigger brains than Republicans. I comprehend the article just fine and I don't need a lesson on the south, because I'm from and have lived in the great state of TENNESSEE my whole

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Feb 19, 2017 20:40:43   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
So.. I watched the video... funny guy... (if you like cheesy dorks I guess)

He doesn't really say anything.
To be honest, I wrote that response after reading the first paragraph... I was turned off by the "oh, Democrats are dumm - arh, arh.." crap but I took the title and made the assumption he might have a point....

TOTAL misread!

I decided I should at least watch the video... since I'm replying to you about it... The guy's an idiot. His first stat is a percentage of a gazillion or some stupid made up shit. I thought he was playing around and would have an actual number to back up his point... ya know like we liberals always do. But, no... he just went on to the next thing... so his entire point was based on a fraction of gazillion.

Is this where you get your knowledge buddy..? Is there someone that can check on you? 'Make sure you're not eating paint chips?

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Feb 19, 2017 20:48:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
LG wrote:
You were the one that made the comment the Democrats have bigger brains than Republicans. I comprehend the article just fine and I don't need a lesson on the south, because I'm from and have lived in the great state of TENNESSEE my whole

1. I was being facetious and VERY obvious about it too. My whole point was to highlight the absurdity.
2. I wasn't suggesting the article was incomprehensible.
3. You don't have to live in the south to learn what happened with their politics.

So get over your self TENNESSEE.

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Feb 19, 2017 20:53:12   #
LG Loc: TENNESSEE
 
straightUp wrote:
So.. I watched the video... funny guy... (if you like cheesy dorks I guess)

He doesn't really say anything.
To be honest, I wrote that response after reading the first paragraph... I was turned off by the "oh, Democrats are dumm - arh, arh.." crap but I took the title and made the assumption he might have a point....

TOTAL misread!

I decided I should at least watch the video... since I'm replying to you about it... The guy's an idiot. His first stat is a percentage of a gazillion or some stupid made up shit. I thought he was playing around and would have an actual number to back up his point... ya know like we liberals always do. But, no... he just went on to the next thing... so his entire point was based on a fraction of gazillion.

Is this where you get your knowledge buddy..? Is there someone that can check on you? 'Make sure you're not eating paint chips?
So.. I watched the video... funny guy... (if you l... (show quote)


No not at all, I never watched the video, I just read the article to make sure he referenced the OXFORD study that I was already aware of and the other reason was because I knew it would piss off any liberal Democrat that read it.

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Feb 19, 2017 21:01:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Ricko wrote:
straightup-exactly. Simple photo ID to all eligible voters will solve the problem.

It will solve the problem of illegal votes... but it *can* create other problems, like representation if the system is controlled unfairly.

Ricko wrote:

However, the democrats do not
want the problem solved. It disenfranchises their party. Level the playing field and they lose most elections.

I think the Democrats are thinking about those other problems. What's going on here is only the latest in a long history of voter suppression. In the last 20 years the Republicans have been loosing ground on a per citizen basis and this has caused them to push the envelope on representation through redistricting efforts and so-called "anti-fraud" systems. You're drinking kool-aid my friend, it's the Republicans that are disenfranchised and although that may only be my opinion, what is empirically evident is that Democrats consistently score higher in the popular votes and that trend is increasing.

Ricko wrote:

America First !!!

LOL... I want to see you say that in a skirt with some pom poms...

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Feb 19, 2017 21:09:06   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
pafret wrote:
The program was generated by the Kansas Sect. of State and has been adopted by about 27 others. Both sides are contentious about who is rigging the findings in their favor. I read your linked article and several others. What they tell me is that your diatribe is totally partisan and contains accusations not supported by any evidence.

Your opinion about how many votes Trump actually lost by, is based on the same fantasy as the rest of this post. You don't like the fact that your heinous criminal candidate lost so you will calumniate the opposition by distortion of fact and blatant lies.
The program was generated by the Kansas Sect. of S... (show quote)

So, you don't like what I have to say... You don't like what the articles have to say... Why don't you just say that?

pafret wrote:
Post something when you have facts and not unsupported opinion.

What - even more facts? Weren't the facts I already presented enough? Oh wait, that's right... You don't LIKE any of those facts so, I guess they aren't facts... are they? :(

Aww

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Feb 19, 2017 23:00:03   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
straightUp wrote:
What - even more facts? Weren't the facts I already presented enough? Oh wait, that's right... You don't LIKE any of those facts so, I guess they aren't facts... are they? :(

Aww


Your facts are selectively gleaned from sources that express th opinion you prefer. There are an equal number of sources expressing the polar opposite opinion and some of them are sources respected for their veracity. The sources you identified are noted for their mendacity. I don't like your source of "fact" although in the current climate of liars on every hand it is unlikely that the truth will be known for another fifty years.

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Feb 20, 2017 00:29:41   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Somebody, Please read this article.
Here is the best explanation for MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS VOTING

It ain't top secret.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-sent-46378040-refunds-23994-unauthorized-aliens-1-atlanta-address
IRS Sent $46,378,040 in Refunds to 23,994 ‘Unauthorized’ Aliens at 1 Atlanta Address
By Terence P. Jeffrey | June 21, 2013 | 4:18 PM EDT

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Feb 20, 2017 08:56:14   #
moldyoldy
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Somebody, Please read this article.
Here is the best explanation for MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS VOTING

It ain't top secret.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-sent-46378040-refunds-23994-unauthorized-aliens-1-atlanta-address
IRS Sent $46,378,040 in Refunds to 23,994 ‘Unauthorized’ Aliens at 1 Atlanta Address
By Terence P. Jeffrey | June 21, 2013 | 4:18 PM EDT



Typical right wing crap. H&R Block and others who give rapid refunds, have the refund checks sent to their main offices so that they can collect their portion of the funds. Certain banks also receive these checks.

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Feb 20, 2017 08:59:28   #
michael williams
 
The argument about getting rit of the electorial college proves that some Americans are ignorant about our system of government . That popular vote idea is something that the Founding Fathers did not want but putting that aside we must learn how to stand up for the Constitution 🇺🇸 or the Liberal way of thinking will stand on the Constitution and the Flag 🇺🇸

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Feb 20, 2017 10:32:39   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
StraightUp wrote:
I read your entire post - (not that hard to do). At the end I saw... "— The Horn editorial team". (I've never heard of them before). So I did a search and found the website... run by Red State Radio... Gee, that doesn't sound biased at all. :) Anyway, I didn't see anything about your supposed study, so that's why I responded the way I did.


The Horn News is merely an affiliate of Red state Radio. Red State has nothing to do with the news Horn reports.

Here is the study cited in the article:

http://www.justfactsdaily.com/substantial-numbers-of-non-citizens-vote-illegally-in-u-s-elections/

StraightUp wrote:
Yeah, you're just telling the story the way you want to. I still don't see any evidence... Why not link to the study?


NO EVIDENCE, but again, moonbats are quick to believe anything that fits their narrative. Especially if their messiah, obammy, tells them to.

http://theintercept.com/2016/12/10/anonymous-leaks-to-the-washpost-about-the-cias-russia-beliefs-are-no-substitute-for-evidence/

http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/obama-ignores-evidence-russia-didnt-hack-dnc-podesta/

straigthtup wrote:
I don't think proof was part of that conspiracy theory when the right-wing bullshitters invented it. You really don't understand what fake news is do you?


You really shouldn't believe fake news, cowboy.

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